Removing Resonator on Stock exhaust (Summary Post #1 & #1811)
03-09-2010, 12:31 PM
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hey guys i'm getting my mid muffler delete done in a few days.. but i can't decide between which two resonators to go with.. Magnaflow 10416 or the Dynomax 24215? Also i'm replacing my mufflers with Raceland Quad Tip mufflers.. not sure what they sound like by themselves...
Do the two different resonators and mid muffler delete sound extremly different? is one louder than the other? does one give rasp? Does one have less drone than the other? i've been reading thru the pages and it just seems like the answers are all over the place. sorry for all the questions, but i wanna get it right the first time
Do the two different resonators and mid muffler delete sound extremly different? is one louder than the other? does one give rasp? Does one have less drone than the other? i've been reading thru the pages and it just seems like the answers are all over the place. sorry for all the questions, but i wanna get it right the first time
03-09-2010, 01:02 PM
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^^^ check some of the earlier posts on this thread, there are a bunch of sound clips that people have posted on each stage. I believe these are also available on youtube.
Also, if your replacing your stock/factory muffler with aftermarket, you might want to hold off on the mid muffler delete and resonator swap. The after market muffler alone may give you the sound your looking for. But doing all of the above might be overkill.
Also, i dont believe the MM delete and resonator will give you any performance gains. its all for sound. but again, your aftermarket mufflers might give you the sound your looking for.
Also, if your replacing your stock/factory muffler with aftermarket, you might want to hold off on the mid muffler delete and resonator swap. The after market muffler alone may give you the sound your looking for. But doing all of the above might be overkill.
Also, i dont believe the MM delete and resonator will give you any performance gains. its all for sound. but again, your aftermarket mufflers might give you the sound your looking for.
03-09-2010, 02:11 PM
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^^^ check some of the earlier posts on this thread, there are a bunch of sound clips that people have posted on each stage. I believe these are also available on youtube.
Also, if your replacing your stock/factory muffler with aftermarket, you might want to hold off on the mid muffler delete and resonator swap. The after market muffler alone may give you the sound your looking for. But doing all of the above might be overkill.
Also, i dont believe the MM delete and resonator will give you any performance gains. its all for sound. but again, your aftermarket mufflers might give you the sound your looking for.
Also, if your replacing your stock/factory muffler with aftermarket, you might want to hold off on the mid muffler delete and resonator swap. The after market muffler alone may give you the sound your looking for. But doing all of the above might be overkill.
Also, i dont believe the MM delete and resonator will give you any performance gains. its all for sound. but again, your aftermarket mufflers might give you the sound your looking for.
true,,i should do the mufflers first, see how it sounds, then go back in if not satisfied and do the mid muffler, and then if still not satisfied, try the resonator
03-09-2010, 04:01 PM
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Burning Brakes
I have only the mid muffler deleted, and it sounds great, except the the car is in drive with my foot on the break at a red light, it drone's sooo loud. How do I fix this but maintain or increase the exhaust note?
03-10-2010, 07:25 AM
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Anyone know a good place online to buy the Magnaflow Res? So far the best price i've seen is on Ebay for $58 bucks shipped. There's a bunch on there with when you search the part #. Seems like a decent price. Thanks
03-10-2010, 09:49 PM
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I have only the mid muffler deleted, and it sounds great, except the the car is in drive with my foot on the break at a red light, it drone's sooo loud. How do I fix this but maintain or increase the exhaust note?
03-10-2010, 09:58 PM
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The only thing that i can think of is that is causing yours to drone so bad is your stock resonator. I had mine done last week, and my brother had his girlfriend's done today...we don't have any drone issues at all. The note is perfect. Infact, if the windows are up it's barely noticable that the mid muffler delete was even done. So I'm wondering if your stock resonator needs to be replaced if it's allowing drone - since the real purpose of it is to alleviate drone. Not to be funny, but what if you replace your resonator with a newer stock resonator??? Even a used one off this forum that i'm sure someone who has had it removed wouldn't mind giving to you? Muffler shop should only charge you 20-30 bucks to cut yours out and re weld the newer/used stock one back in place.
03-11-2010, 07:22 AM
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yeah, thats not normal. Stage 1 has very minimal change in sound. Enough to make you notice, but defnitely no drone.
Somethings gotta be wrong with your stock resonator, or there are some leaks in your welds. i'd take it back to the shop where you got it done and have them reinspect.
03-11-2010, 06:20 PM
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i had the mid muffler deleted but barely noticed it because i already had a intake and its loud. So today my dynomax 24215 came and i went to get it installed. i had then put 2.5 inch from the cat to the Y split in ther rear with my resonator installed aswell. Sounds great no rasp at all. You barely notice it in the car but stand outside and have someone drive your car past you and then you can tell.
03-11-2010, 06:45 PM
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One on the right for me
03-11-2010, 10:25 PM
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Burning Brakes
where do I get this aftermarket resonator, and why does replacing a resonator with a resonator do anything?
which is the best for a noticeable deep tone, not raspy, and where do I get it?
which is the best for a noticeable deep tone, not raspy, and where do I get it?
03-11-2010, 11:18 PM
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One on the right for me
A resonator pretty much controls the amount of rasp produced. They vary in length and deadening material. You could probably get away with just keeping the OEM resonator on there and changing mufflers if you want a deeper tone. If you play around with the resonator you will also have variations in exhaust sound - the shorter the resonator the louder it will be.
03-12-2010, 12:37 AM
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Not to be a jerk or anything, but you ask a lot of question and don't ever read. You criticize a lot about the Stage 2/3/4 by thinking you know what you're talking about. If you're so curious, just do it. Stop worrying about what problems it will have and just do it. If you're so worried about the youtube videos, then don't bother doing it all.
If you're going to do something, do it right, or don't do it all.
03-12-2010, 07:40 AM
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I was bored, so I read a few pages and...
Not to be a jerk or anything, but you ask a lot of question and don't ever read. You criticize a lot about the Stage 2/3/4 by thinking you know what you're talking about. If you're so curious, just do it. Stop worrying about what problems it will have and just do it. If you're so worried about the youtube videos, then don't bother doing it all.
If you're going to do something, do it right, or don't do it all.
Not to be a jerk or anything, but you ask a lot of question and don't ever read. You criticize a lot about the Stage 2/3/4 by thinking you know what you're talking about. If you're so curious, just do it. Stop worrying about what problems it will have and just do it. If you're so worried about the youtube videos, then don't bother doing it all.
If you're going to do something, do it right, or don't do it all.
03-12-2010, 10:48 AM
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w00t! just got back from Meineke. they charged me $70 for the install but i was tired of driving around so i took it. x__X not bad for $110 mod. i like Stage 3 so far xD hopefully the resonator breaks in soon, cuz the tone now is nice but a bit louder and ill be happy =]
03-12-2010, 11:38 AM
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Burning Brakes
Sorry guys, I don't have the time to go through 40 pages. Let alone all I want is a part number and a place to buy,so I thought it would be easier to just type it in, guess that isn't the american way? whatever thanks anyways!
03-12-2010, 01:27 PM
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Burning Brakes
may this will help. Here are pics of the "stainless steel pipe" they put in place of the mid muffler....the other pic with the red circle around it is my question...this is where I would put the NEW aftermarket resonator, correct?
03-12-2010, 02:49 PM
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Safety Car
Dave,
Yes. The red circle is where your oem resonator is located. Most people place the aftermarket resonator is the same location where the oem resonator was located.
Yes. The red circle is where your oem resonator is located. Most people place the aftermarket resonator is the same location where the oem resonator was located.
03-12-2010, 03:08 PM
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Burning Brakes
Is it normal that my stainless steel pipe/mid muffler delete is all rusted? I am trying to figure out why it drones so loud when im stopped at a red light.
03-12-2010, 03:35 PM
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Safety Car
Dave,
At first, I was going to say that the shop lied about the stainless steel (ss). But after I looked at the condition of your oem piping, I figured that I better not comment on the ss.
From the looks of the oem pipe, you live/drive in some harsh road conditions (salt?). So there is a good chance that your ss pipe really is ss. We will need to wait for other people to add their comments on this.. I am from Houston (no salt)... Hopefully someone from up North can comment if the salt conditions will harm ss this much.
At first, I was going to say that the shop lied about the stainless steel (ss). But after I looked at the condition of your oem piping, I figured that I better not comment on the ss.
From the looks of the oem pipe, you live/drive in some harsh road conditions (salt?). So there is a good chance that your ss pipe really is ss. We will need to wait for other people to add their comments on this.. I am from Houston (no salt)... Hopefully someone from up North can comment if the salt conditions will harm ss this much.
03-12-2010, 05:53 PM
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Burning Brakes
I live in canada, so yes there is alot of salt, but stainless steel should remain stainless no? I don't get it. Is the oem exhaust stainlessor aluminum?
do you guys see any leaks that would cause this annoying drone when stopped at a red light?
or could it be because I removed my spare tire, so it is creating an echo?
do you guys see any leaks that would cause this annoying drone when stopped at a red light?
or could it be because I removed my spare tire, so it is creating an echo?
03-12-2010, 09:59 PM
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Dave...the part #'s for the Magnaflow and Dynamax are on page 37 of this thread about three quarters the way through. You actually posted on that page as well.
I wouldn't be surprised that your drone is caused by a leak in your exhaust system somewhere. The Stainless steel is rusting as a result of the weather conditions of Snow/salt. I would imagine that your issue is an exhaust leak or possibly the actual resonator like i said in a few posts up. Take it to a shop and have it inspected. The drone is NOT normal.
I wouldn't be surprised that your drone is caused by a leak in your exhaust system somewhere. The Stainless steel is rusting as a result of the weather conditions of Snow/salt. I would imagine that your issue is an exhaust leak or possibly the actual resonator like i said in a few posts up. Take it to a shop and have it inspected. The drone is NOT normal.
03-18-2010, 12:53 AM
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I just did a stage 3. I removed my midmuffler to a straight pipe. Changed my resonator to a no name brand SMALLER resonator. SOUNDS SEXY!!!!!!
I have a G36 in the exhaust tone. I'm sure you all love this tone. Our TL has enough horsepower that we don't need to purchase a catback exhaust that makes drone and adds horsepower.
This mod is enough for your car and your LUX SPORTY car is GREATLY SEXILY TONED. This can turn people's heads but when you're in the car, you DO NOT feel uncomfortable listening to the DRONES all you hear are sexy tones.
Also you dont need no name branded resonators. Just change the Huge stock resonator to a smaller resonator and it sounds GREAT!!!
GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY with your DECISIONS.
I have a G36 in the exhaust tone. I'm sure you all love this tone. Our TL has enough horsepower that we don't need to purchase a catback exhaust that makes drone and adds horsepower.
This mod is enough for your car and your LUX SPORTY car is GREATLY SEXILY TONED. This can turn people's heads but when you're in the car, you DO NOT feel uncomfortable listening to the DRONES all you hear are sexy tones.
Also you dont need no name branded resonators. Just change the Huge stock resonator to a smaller resonator and it sounds GREAT!!!
GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY with your DECISIONS.
03-18-2010, 12:59 AM
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Here's a repost of the summary for the noobs ( ) and the lazy ( 
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) and the lazy ( )Compilation of all stages of exhaust resonator modification.
So I took the time and made this post so all of the new people don't have to go through 20 pages of discussion.
So far, there are 4 stages of this exhaust mod.
Stage 1.
Least noticeable in exhaust note increase.
Configuration:
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe. Everything else remains stock.
Cost: Can be anywhere from $30-$60 w/aluminized pipping.
Stage 2.
A tad louder than stage one, a bit more pronounced tone.
Configuration:
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with Magnaflow resonator part# 10416.
Magnaflow resonator is a 14" long resonator, which dampens and changes the note of the stock exhaust a bit more, thus you get a bit more loudness/tone.
Cost: Magnaflow resonator costs around $60. Install ranges from $60 -$90 w/ aluminized pipping.
Stage 3.
(Tone result TBA)
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with Dynomax resonator part# WLK-24215.
Dynomax resonator is a 12" long resonator, which is a bit shorter and less dampening than the magnaflow resonator, thus it should give you a bit more loudness/tone than stage 2.
Cost: Dynomax resonator costs around $40. Install ranges from $60 - $90 w/aluminized pipping.
Stage 4.
Loudest setup out of all 3. Has a bit of a rasp, similar to M3 exhaust setup.
Stock exhaust.
Remove Mid-muffler. Replace with a 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with a 2.5" straight pipe.
Cost: Can be anywhere from $40 - $60.
Note: If you live in a climate that is prone to rain, snow, rust, Stainless steel pipping is highly recommended.
This also does not prevent you from passing smog, as it does not alter the characteristics of the catalytic converters, but it does not mean that this is street legal either as it does alter the stock setup of the exhaust.
Media.
Stage 1: Revving
Stage 1: Revving
Stage 2: Revving
Stage 2: Revving Pt.2
Stage 2: Inside Revving
Stage 2: Drive By
Stage 3: Windows Down Driving
Stage 3: Revving
Stage 3: Drive By 1
Stage 3: Drive By 2
Stage 3: 2007 TL-S all-in-one
Stage 4: Revving
Stock Exhaust Configuration.
Stage 1.
Stage2.
Stage3.
Magnaflow Resonator 10416
Dynomax Resonator WLK-24215
Good luck!
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So I took the time and made this post so all of the new people don't have to go through 20 pages of discussion.
So far, there are 4 stages of this exhaust mod.
Stage 1.
Least noticeable in exhaust note increase.
Configuration:
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe. Everything else remains stock.
Cost: Can be anywhere from $30-$60 w/aluminized pipping.
Stage 2.
A tad louder than stage one, a bit more pronounced tone.
Configuration:
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with Magnaflow resonator part# 10416.
Magnaflow resonator is a 14" long resonator, which dampens and changes the note of the stock exhaust a bit more, thus you get a bit more loudness/tone.
Cost: Magnaflow resonator costs around $60. Install ranges from $60 -$90 w/ aluminized pipping.
Stage 3.
(Tone result TBA)
Stock exhaust.
Remove mid-muffler. Replace with 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with Dynomax resonator part# WLK-24215.
Dynomax resonator is a 12" long resonator, which is a bit shorter and less dampening than the magnaflow resonator, thus it should give you a bit more loudness/tone than stage 2.
Cost: Dynomax resonator costs around $40. Install ranges from $60 - $90 w/aluminized pipping.
Stage 4.
Loudest setup out of all 3. Has a bit of a rasp, similar to M3 exhaust setup.
Stock exhaust.
Remove Mid-muffler. Replace with a 2.5" straight pipe.
Remove stock resonator. Replace with a 2.5" straight pipe.
Cost: Can be anywhere from $40 - $60.
Note: If you live in a climate that is prone to rain, snow, rust, Stainless steel pipping is highly recommended.
This also does not prevent you from passing smog, as it does not alter the characteristics of the catalytic converters, but it does not mean that this is street legal either as it does alter the stock setup of the exhaust.
Media.
Stage 1: Revving
Stage 1: Revving
Stage 2: Revving
Stage 2: Revving Pt.2
Stage 2: Inside Revving
Stage 2: Drive By
Stage 3: Windows Down Driving
Stage 3: Revving
Stage 3: Drive By 1
Stage 3: Drive By 2
Stage 3: 2007 TL-S all-in-one
Stage 4: Revving
Stock Exhaust Configuration.
Stage 1.
Stage2.
Stage3.
Magnaflow Resonator 10416
Dynomax Resonator WLK-24215
Good luck!
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03-18-2010, 09:15 AM
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I was listening to the videos that you have reposted, and I don't know if it is just me, but stage 2 sounds way better then stage 3 in the videos. Is that how stage 3 suppose to sound or does it sound better in person?
03-20-2010, 11:18 PM
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i just did a stage 1 today finally!!!! Sounds perfecttttttttttttt! Like most ppl have said on this forum...if you haven't done it already, go and do it! You'll love it.
04-18-2010, 07:01 PM
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I agree tls08, stage 2 is way better sounding than any of the other stages. I'm not sure either if that is just the difference in "raspiness"??
BTW, I assume you have an 08 type S? I'm going to install stage 2 on my ASM 08 type S here in a few weeks.
BTW, I assume you have an 08 type S? I'm going to install stage 2 on my ASM 08 type S here in a few weeks.
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Yup that is correct, I do have a type S and I just did a stage 2 last week. I went with a stage 2 base on what I heard on the videos and I love the sound result. It's perfect.