t0talacuratl

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Yes I'm selling my spacer, but I have no regrets of doing the mod what so ever. IMO it's a great mod, but the AT TL's would benefit from this more. My car had to much lowend tq. I even had issues driving in the rain.

It's alot of factors that I could have kept the spacer in, but it was more annoying than anything. Some might think they wish they had my problem, so I'm sharing the wealth.

RonJonTL757

Very very true. U didnt get a bad deal Swoosh I just didnt need it anymore.

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^^ Ohhh no....u got me wrong....i did get a good deal to be honest....

Just wanna make sure before i install it....coz all u guys went thro cutting ur hood and then taking this thing out in less that 2 months !!!! I know you guys are going the PnP route but still...am kinda baffled !!!

Richie v6

I actually picked up 2 of these a few months back. One for my car and one for a friend. I know a place that would do the milling but I haven't had time to stop by yet. I will try to work out some type of group deal and get back to you guys. How is the back order on these? I had to wait a few weeks to get mine.

Rajca

iTrader: (8)

back order on the spacer isnt the problem, its the bolts and studs.

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^ and if you mill it down you wont need the studs and the bolts !!!!

I just got this from someone on the forum, should have waited for richie....wanna install this along with the PCD !!!!

erick3

word azine
can someone point me in the direction of a diy thread? i can't seem to find one via searching/browsing. what's this thing that people are cleaning while the upper intake manifold is off? i'm LEARNING! :

Rajca

iTrader: (8)

i made once on the 2nd gen tl/cl side. should be the same. just diff part numbers for the spacer

erick3

thanks man

minkl81

iTrader: (2)

i'm in for the milled down spacer group buy

RonJonTL757

So we are turning a $50 mod into a $80 mod and decreasing TQ.... makes perfect sense

tl2slow

iTrader: (5)

theirs no need to get it milled down if you cut down the middle portion of the hood.....ive put on 3 of these with no hood spacers or milling of the spacer it self.....

Bender

How much torque would you lose with the milled down version? Would it be worth is not to cut the hood?

cschell

My spacer is at the machine shop now, I am having them take half an inch off of it. I prefer not to cut my hood, but I do plan on raising it up a tad with washers to make up for the difference. Now I shouldn't have to worry about stretching any wires or the brake hose vibrating on the strut bar. I also do plan on using the p2r gasket and oem gasket. I will let you guys know the difference I feel in tq after I get it on, will probably be around the 2nd or so.

Bender

Sounds like a good mod. I would have it milled instead of cutting but I'm interested in the numbers between the milled and non milled.

tl2slow

iTrader: (5)

you guys make it seem like your cutting a hole on the hood....all you gotta cut is about 2 feet of the middle rib....2 feet sounds like alot but its not...if you cut it out with a dremel it will look good.....

minkl81

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well... its not like people are forced to have shaved version right?
people who likes to cut hood and have maximum gain can just go buy regular spacers while people who don't wanna cut with little sacrifice can spend little more money to get milled down.

Bender

Exactly, I won't cut my hood because it devalues the vehicle, I won't buy another hood. Some people do and that's fine. I just cant justify the expense vs. the price tag.

RonJonTL757

Ok first off the section is about 8 inches and how would you be able to see it if you put the black cloth fire safety thing back on here. Who checks under that?

I have had the popped hood look..it was cool for about a week Then I just cut a 8 inch portion out removed the washers and then that was it.

CSCHELL...how much are you being charged to take off 1 inch and what is the turn around time?

Its not life or death fellas and really how much does this decrease the value....if they can see it

cschell

They are taking off 1/2 of an inch. They quoted me $85, which to me is steep. I probably could have looked around and found a shop that would be cheaper but i want to get this mod done before i have to go back up to school on the 3rd or 4th. I brought it to them on the 18th or 19th and they said it wont be ready until after the first, but assured me I would have it before the 3rd.

cschell

I want to add, the first shop I went to quoted me $100. So when the second shop I went to quoted me $85 I just said do it.

RonJonTL757

FIXED

Nothing against CSCHELL but from post 1 this was and "inexpensive" mod and yes there are slight drawbacks but for the TQ ratings of a full MDX spacer i wouldn't wanna spend more and not know what gains I would be making.

cschell

thanks for your input

cschell

I'll be sure to let you guys know when i get it in back and installed. I did just replace my primary cats with gutted ones a week ago; so not sure how much if any that will interfere with judging the increase in TQ but I would assume my gutted primaries would have reached their full potential by then.

cschell

hey guys, the spacer was done early. Just finished installing a little while ago. The car drives and accelerates like it is lighter. I ended up raising the the hood latch all the way up and putting 2 millimeters of washers under the hood. I did not have to take off the insulating mat under the hood and I was also able to leave that plastic engine cover on but is only connected through the two pegs on the back side of it. After milling 1/2 of an inch off of the spacer the brake booster or rubber hose is no longer an issue and I have the stock strut bar. I am also using 1 p2r and 2 oem gaskets.

way-acura

I'm thinking of trying a different length on my TL. Instead of 7 mm, I want to try ~10 mm. I have the stock strut bar and want the extra clearance for the rubber hoses. I'll probably cut the hood braces but keep the liner for the stealth look.

Anyone know where I can get shorter bolts and studs? I already have the stock bolts but after milling, I don't think they will fit.

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^ why wud u mill down the spacer more if 7mm shaved spacer fits !!! ??? the brake booster line clears stock struct bar as well....

way-acura

Does it clear the stock strut bar with 7mm shaved? Black_05_TL_6SP shaved 7 mm but had Richies strut bar. I just want an easy install.

I still need to buy the shorter bolts and studs. I'll try ace hardware tomorrow.

Bender

Have the bolts cut. Ok measure it first if your going to do it yourself.

All these millimeters.
What are you a drag racer trying to get every tenth off of your quarter mile? Just shave it to fit and That's It!

way-acura

It might not fit, that's the problem! I don't want to hassle with moving rubber hoses around the strut bar and worrying about rubbing when the engine bounces.

In my book, this mod is only worth doing since it is pretty cheap. From the way it sounds, it provides a similar gain as the crank pulley, which I doubt even improves quarter mile times or whatever by 0.1 seconds.

Rajca

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anything helps. i took mine off a few days ago and noticed less low end power. only reason i took it off was bc im doing direct port nitrous and needed to drill holes in it

argushermes

Bumping an older thread, but needed some help; thanks Black_05_TL_6SP for posting the required parts and their part numbers for everyone's benefit.

I'm situated in Oman, a small country in the Middle East, and we don't have many of the models that are local to the US here.

I checked with the Local Honda dealer, who can arrange all but the 7 bolts {8M x 105mm - 95701-08105-08} since they have never come into their parts inventory.

I know the BMW ones are also listed as an alternative, but even if those aren't available, what would be the best course of action?

Thanks for all the help this forum provides.

RonJonTL757

Hello welcome from the Middle East. I would just check the BMW dealerships. That is where I got mine from and they were about 3.45 per bolt.

If you are serious about this MOD and cant locate them in your area I can check around my local dealerships and find the bolts for you. If I can get them you can paypal me and i can send them to you.

Let me know-Eric

argushermes

Dear RonJonTL757, I'm very serious about getting this mod done! In this regard, will need you to procure all the items required (if that is ok with you of course). BMW this end has also refused having the bolts - visited them this morning.

Can you tell me your own full name and full father's name, as appearing your local IDs, since the only mode of money transfer I can do from here is via Western Union. Will check for bank transfer, but we are quite backwards in that respect down here!

Can you find out about sending all this to me via courier, and then send me a total amount so I can send across to you immediately?

My postal address is :
Ali Raza Gul
c/o Maersk Shipping Services & Co. LLc,
P.O. Box 131, PC 217, Awqadain,
Salalah, Sultanate of Oman
GSM No : +968-994-25538

Thanks for your help on this one!

erick3

Alright. Spacers are installed and I've put a few hundred miles on them. In all honesty, the power (bump in torque) is definitely there. Am I now swatting ferraris left and right? Absolutely...not. I decided NOT to cut the hood, but instead installed a total of 10 washers (split into both sides). One in the front of the latch, and four in the rear. There's a little bit of lift and it doesn't look all that bad...at all! I was relatively surprised to see the outcome. Car does look a tad bit more aggressive, and when driving, it's something that I don't even notice. I'll post pictures tomorrow. Oh and on a side note, everything (hoses, etc) seem to be doing just fine. I adjusted the hoses, lines and my cai. Perfect!

Edit: Spacer installed

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

yeah dude put some pix up !!! really wanna see how this goes !!!

I got the spacer and was doing some measurements !!!

the MDX spacer with the Thermoblock spacer is roughly ~40 mm....
the space between the brake booster line and stock strut bar is again ~40mm (a tough fit)....
i put the spacer on top of my engine and closed the hood....guess what....the hood closed !!! even with the liner in place !!!

So i think if you take the liner out the spacer should fit even without cutting the hood....the only question that comes in is brake booster line !!!

RonJonTL757

hmmm ok Honestly i wont mess with anything other than paypal. try and open up a PP account. the fathers full name thing and local ids kinda did it for me.

ABP_04TL

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UGH!!! im sick of the rubber hose around my RV6 strut bar making that rubber ish sound.... wat was that Elbow thing i need?

ABP_04TL

iTrader: (2)

ive search Autozone, and Pepboys.. am i the only one or i cant find that freakin " 3/8 60 degree slanted elbow" for the Brake boost tube

argushermes

Bro, it's one of the safest ways to send money across to other countries, and instantaneous as well. I've used it for multiple countries and it's great.
You of course need to receive the money before you go out and do some purchases for me. If you still think you don't feel like doing it, then I'll try asking someone else, or maybe go to one of the vendors etc.
thks / brgds