stillhere153

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Yes... thats correct... an Intake Manifold Spacer from the factory for pretty friggin cheap

sandwich this in between 2 x p2r IM gaskets FTW

It comes standard on the MDX/ODYSSEY/PILOT so why not rock the higher tq IM spacer on the TL

yes I might have left, but I've been doing some v6 research for whatever reason

here's the diagram... speaking of part # 3... looks like you will need to get longer IM bolts {part #24, need 7 of them 95701-08105-08}... which are like $2 a piece... you will also need to get hood spacer bushings to raise the hood a little to clear it (theorized by Richie v6)



ps. will also require 92900-08060-1B (2 of them) which is the long stud on the intake runners

o4Komodo

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Interesting. Nice find.

Elegant TYPE S

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Fogive my laziness but what is this do again? Because most people adding the TB spacer said they noticed nothing.

stillhere153

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the people who said they noticed nothing have never pushed their car pre and post

this will yield a massive tq increase

o4Komodo

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If the intake manifold is raised due to the spacer, wouldn't that cause fitment issues with a cold air intake?

beachexotic03

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Nice!

t0talacuratl

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Wow Al! Great fine! Why would Acura have this available for the MDX, but not the rest of the ac's (namely TL's)?

CleanCL

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I looked into this a couple years ago... I think you might have hood clearance issues or at least we did in the 2G CL side. I actually have this exact spacer for 04+ TL sitting in my closet if anyone is interested in trying it out on a 3g TL?

blkaspec

how much $ does the spacer run?

Bender

bump

chill_dog

And the point of bumping this thread twenty minutes after the last post was???


Pick up the one CleanCL has; it'll probably be less than at the dealer.

CleanCL

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It's about $20+s/h, but don't forget you need the longer bolts as well.

I'll sell mine for $20 shipped... I thought I had the bolts too, I'll check. PM me if anyone is interested.

stillhere153

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yeah I think there will be some hood clearance issues, richie v6 mentioned this, and I pointed out you can do what everyone else with itb does.... and get a set of hood spacer bushings which raise the hood about another 10mm and also you remove the rug under the hood and replace it with some heat reflective gold film or spray it with some heat coating

as for cai fitment, you just get a bracket from like radioshack.. and just keep the vibramount in the same place... its not that big of a difference honestly...

can someone test out and see how much clearance there is under their hood... get a coke can place it on top of the IM and close the hood..... depending how crushed the can is, thats how much clearance we got

o4Komodo

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Hmn, off topic but is Radio Shack still called Radio Shack in the States? It's called "The Source - By Circuit City" here in Canada.

Anyway, awesome. I thought there may have been an issue with CAI fitment as the throttle body would probably be raised as well. I can go do the can thing in a bit hahaha.

ssmtl2nv

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thanks Al gotta c if it's worth it, now that i got a new motor.

o4Komodo

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So.... I just went to go crush a can with my hood.
It was crushed practically all the way, I don't think it can be crushed any further.
I put the can in 3 different spots.
Will be measuring and posting some pics shortly.

o4Komodo

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Don't mind the dirty engine bay =]

Before can placement.


Can placement ontop of VTEC


Crushed.


Relocated slightly towards driver and recrushed.


IM Gasket from P2R purchased from ATLP back in Jan [never installed].


Measurement of can.


I also placed it to the highest point of the engine cover---but it did not crush any further. Once the can was crushed it pretty much closed fine when paced anywhere on top of the IM.

blkaspec

so what does this mean? how much extra space is needed with this mod? will a hood mod still be needed?

stillhere153

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well he clearly proved there is nearly 2" of hood clearance, now CLEANCL... can you measure the thickness of the spacer

Timeless

LOL!! That is some crazy precise hood clearance measuring technique! Awesome.

Bender

hmm now someone go measure that with a bottle I hear it's more accurate than the can method.

o4Komodo

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Yepp. About 1.75 inches.

Hahah, thank stillhere.

hmn maybe I'll go try once I'm at home again.... I have an empty water bottle in my room too.. hahah.
I don't think it'd work that well but hey if you want I can go try

Elegant TYPE S

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Wow.. Komodo... very clever!

stillhere153

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good shit... here is where the can method came into play

My current cars
96 honda civic with an LS motor
97 acura integra with an LS motor

So I see a guy online who swapped in a v6 into the ek civic (96-00)... and he didn't require a hood modification

so I never actually got to try the method... but figured this would be a great op for it ... and looks like the method is fully functional

so cleancl did you measure yet?

minkl81

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seems like this will be cheap oem upgrade like what accord guys are doing with rear sway bars

sunny201

Good shit Al.. Wonder why your still researching V6s

Dave_B

But most likely will kill topend HP. If I'm following you right, you're essentially lengthing the intake runners. Adding length to the runners improves low and midrange power, but as the air flow increases, the air flow becomes very turbulent and essentially chokes the motor in the upper rpms. This is why many cars use either two sets of intake runners (short and long) or a tuned variable design.

I'd definitely dyno before and after to make sure the gains truely will improve overall performance before claiming "massive" tq gains.

beachexotic03

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I orderd the parts yesterday should be here tuesday!

stillhere153

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I understand the concern about chocking the block topend... but this is not a mod for a stock car... this is a mod for someone's car that already has a hiflowing exhaust... I am trying to get some of that low end torque back

beachexotic... I take it you will me maching these to your intake runners and intake manis opening correct? are you machining it then?

CleanCL

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It is about 1.6" without the 2nd gasket. I have everything you would need, the spacer, extended bolts, extended studs, and 2 gaskets.



PM me if you are interested.

CleanCL

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Outlaw Engineering showed gains throughout with no power loss with a .25" spacer on a J32A2. Someone should dyno this and see, at such an extreme height could cause loss in top end power but also curiously may show huge torque down low.

stillhere153

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you pretty much would have everything 1 would need, and as shown it will def clear the hood... but I'd still run the hood latch bushings to account for engine movement

corsport has them... believe they are the same for the rsx and tl
http://www.corsportusa.com/store/cat...oducts_id=1979

stillhere153

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confirmed 90108-S0A-003 (hood hinge bolt) is same for rsx and tl

InFaMouSLink

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this is hot AL, something new!! i would love to see the numbers first so beach... we are waiting on you.

yo al, hit me up when you get a chance dont know when your awake so dont want to disturb ya.

stillhere153

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dude text mmeee... I work 4x12 now always awake

beachexotic03

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Yes i plan to have the shop port match this tuesday. As soon as Fedex drops it off. I'll post dyno numbers with all my mods including this mod before and after! I have all the parts and started the write on diy install im going to finsh tomarrow and post it later on this week with the dyno sheet.

tl2slow

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am going to try it was well...who's the guy with the parts....hit me up...

Majofo

.. but will this be the end to your project? FI? Looking forward to your write-up.

gshotpapi

nice!

dr_brains510

anxiously waiting...