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07-01-2009, 04:55 PM
#401
Burning Brakes
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07-01-2009, 06:40 PM
#404
Do you know what a 3 angle valve job is or how porting the heads might cause more harm that good? Has anyone ever done tested the heads to verify they're actually a legit restriction or is everyone going off the wrong assumption that OEM does flow well? If your TL is that BA why not take it to the strip and back up those killer power claims? Chicken, Colonel Sanders
07-03-2009, 12:13 PM
#407
Former Whyner
Guess the word is out and I bet they will go up in price
07-03-2009, 03:35 PM
#408
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I'm waiting to hear from HondaAcuraWorld. I called my local Chicagoland dealers and no one has it. Heck, I even fiddled with "popping" my hood and after several variations, I carefully cut the underside of the hood. I popped it also with 2 washers on each screw, and decided to do a better job on the hood. Now, the hood has no washers - back to stock and there is a nice cut out/clearance and painted section to retain the clean look as another member on here gave me the idea. Damn, itching to do this mod, just waiting now for the actual spacer. 
07-04-2009, 12:16 PM
#411
Team Owner
Do you know what a 3 angle valve job is or how porting the heads might cause more harm that good? Has anyone ever done tested the heads to verify they're actually a legit restriction or is everyone going off the wrong assumption that OEM does flow well? If your TL is that BA why not take it to the strip and back up those killer power claims? Chicken, Colonel Sanders
I think the term "3 angle valve job" gets thrown around too much. Some come from the factory with 3 or 5 angles on the valve.
07-04-2009, 12:30 PM
#412
Team Owner
Forgot, no one takes their TL to the track, we don't want numbers, we want feelings lol.
IMO cutting the hood for a couple hp is retarded. The TL responds poorly to small mods. Go turbo or go home.
IMO cutting the hood for a couple hp is retarded. The TL responds poorly to small mods. Go turbo or go home.
07-04-2009, 07:10 PM
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^ dunno its almost double digit tq... and I condone hood poppin not hood cutting 
hood pop = temporary
hood cut = wow there playa there's no coming back from that
hood pop = temporary
hood cut = wow there playa there's no coming back from that
07-04-2009, 11:58 PM
#414
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Who the heck explicitly sees the underside of a hood and CARES to look for a minor cut? good god! Responds poorly my ass! 10ft lbs is better than nothin bud....and who said a turbo wasn't in the future for people who do this mod? I was #3 on the turbo waiting list till it got taken down by mods. Do what you prefer, end of story. Whats the point in criticizing? ...The idiocity these days.
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07-05-2009, 12:03 AM
#415
Team Owner
you guys r incredibly lame. Who the heck explicitly sees the underside of a hood and CARES to look for a minor cut? good god! Responds poorly my ass! 10ft lbs is better than nothin bud....and who said a turbo wasn't in the future for people who do this mod? I was #3 on the turbo waiting list till it got taken down by mods. Do what you prefer, end of story. Whats the point in criticizing? ...The idiocity these days.
Who the heck explicitly sees the underside of a hood and CARES to look for a minor cut? good god! Responds poorly my ass! 10ft lbs is better than nothin bud....and who said a turbo wasn't in the future for people who do this mod? I was #3 on the turbo waiting list till it got taken down by mods. Do what you prefer, end of story. Whats the point in criticizing? ...The idiocity these days.
07-05-2009, 01:09 AM
#416
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the honda engineers did a very good job at getting power out of the TL in a cost effective, yet efficient manner. I don't understand why people are cutting their hoods or popping their hoods when they can easily get it milled down by any machining shop for around 20 dollars, hell take a belt sander to it if you wanted!
07-05-2009, 01:15 AM
#417
Team Owner
the honda engineers did a very good job at getting power out of the TL in a cost effective, yet efficient manner. I don't understand why people are cutting their hoods or popping their hoods when they can easily get it milled down by any machining shop for around 20 dollars, hell take a belt sander to it if you wanted!The TL is a nice luxury car, these types of mods are something you would do to a 90s Mustang when you're in highschool, not a TL as an adult.
07-05-2009, 07:31 AM
#418
practicing nihilist
There's a middle ground, I suppose. I keep my car very clean and luxurious inside but after 2 years driving around with just a CAI well, it got dull.
You know how it goes, slap one part on here and one there, results make you smile. I feel so in tune with her now and was pretty impressed with the response this mod netted.
The pop wasn't a keeper for me. Don't hate it, it was just a little to cut and paste with the washers, flimsy feeling. I'm going to shave a little off the spacer, adjust the latch and disco.
You know how it goes, slap one part on here and one there, results make you smile. I feel so in tune with her now and was pretty impressed with the response this mod netted.
The pop wasn't a keeper for me. Don't hate it, it was just a little to cut and paste with the washers, flimsy feeling. I'm going to shave a little off the spacer, adjust the latch and disco.
07-05-2009, 10:40 AM
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07-05-2009, 10:46 AM
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Oh, and in regards to the comment of "what you would do as an adult" - this is what I have owned "as an adult" and modified after purchased NEW (i.e. I have quite a bit of experience too):
2004 Acura TL (current car), 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege, 2002.5 Mazda Protege 5, 2001 Acura Integra Type-R, 2000 Acura GS-R Sedan, 1999 Acura TL, 1999 Grand Prix GTP (yuck!), 1997 Honda Civic EX, 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX, 1995 VW Golf (yuck!)
http://www.heagney.net/cars/index.htm
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07-05-2009, 05:13 PM
#423
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Thank Infamous and xcelir8. This thread turning into Troll feeding grounds, and I don't have the time or energy to respond to it all. Carry on!
Victory for the trolls!
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07-05-2009, 05:35 PM
#424
Team Owner
Who's the troll, the one with the common sense or you?
07-05-2009, 06:02 PM
#425
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"Troll feeding grounds" - never heard of that terminology before.
I'm tired of people slamming or giving their opinion on how this mod is negative to do when torque is added to the car by doing it.
Things have gotten' out of hand!
I'll shutup now.
I'm tired of people slamming or giving their opinion on how this mod is negative to do when torque is added to the car by doing it.
Things have gotten' out of hand!
I'll shutup now.
07-05-2009, 10:20 PM
#427
Normally, I enjoy your posts. That being said, right now, you are the troll.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet-Troll
Now, back on topic!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet-Troll
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
07-05-2009, 10:49 PM
#430
This mod is not for everyone....
So to all those who took the plunge....Congrats
& those who are just on here to judge other what others do with their OWN rides...just chill...if its something you wouldn't do, fine....but stop judging others because they did.
07-05-2009, 11:39 PM
#432
Team Owner
Normally, I enjoy your posts. That being said, right now, you are the troll.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet-Troll
Now, back on topic!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet-Troll
Now, back on topic!
Go ahead and do ricer mods you your TL, I could care less but don't question my integrity because you have a different opinion.
07-06-2009, 12:32 AM
#433
For arguments sake, here are my thoughts:
This was an excellent post and where your commentary should have probably ended.
Negativity building
More of the same
Full troll
see last comment
First paragraph was nice. Second paragraph was troll worthy. 
It seems like your word choice is to incite a negative response from others. This is the definition of trolling.
Just saying ...
Stock TL heads are awesome. I was very surprised when I saw the flow numbers. These things flow close to 340CFM on the intake side. That was pure race engine flow 10 years ago. That's why I predicted they would make over 500whp with less than 15psi and it happened.
I think the term "3 angle valve job" gets thrown around too much.
Some come from the factory with 3 or 5 angles on the valve.
I think the term "3 angle valve job" gets thrown around too much.
Some come from the factory with 3 or 5 angles on the valve.
Exactly. The fact that it doens't respond well to aftermarket parts shows how well the stock parts are engineered. It also explains why the turbo kit produces so much power with so little boost.
The TL is a nice luxury car, these types of mods are something you would do to a 90s Mustang when you're in highschool, not a TL as an adult.
The TL is a nice luxury car, these types of mods are something you would do to a 90s Mustang when you're in highschool, not a TL as an adult.
see last comment
Disagreeing with someone does not make me a troll. The negatives don't outweigh the positives on this one. You're cutting into the main spine of the hood. You think that's not going to show up as fatigue in the sheetmetal in the years to come? As someone who's cut on hoods before, I can tell you it will.
Go ahead and do ricer mods you your TL, I could care less but don't question my integrity because you have a different opinion.
Go ahead and do ricer mods you your TL, I could care less but don't question my integrity because you have a different opinion.
It seems like your word choice is to incite a negative response from others. This is the definition of trolling.
Just saying ...
07-06-2009, 12:38 AM
#435
Team Owner
Having a difference of opinion is not trolling.
07-06-2009, 12:40 AM
#436
If you guyz don't want to show the cut under the hood...you can order the "hood heat shield" that comes with the 07-08 TL-S....It will hide whatever cuts that has been made as far as hood goes.
This mod is not for everyone....
So to all those who took the plunge....Congrats
& those who are just on here to judge other what others do with their OWN rides...just chill...if its something you wouldn't do, fine....but stop judging others because they did.
This mod is not for everyone....
So to all those who took the plunge....Congrats
& those who are just on here to judge other what others do with their OWN rides...just chill...if its something you wouldn't do, fine....but stop judging others because they did.
You are correct sir. But having a difference of opinion whilst being a negative bastard is.
07-06-2009, 12:54 AM
#437
Team Owner
07-06-2009, 01:07 AM
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K after Alex's reasoning of the cut not being visible... You're right... But still after you remove that rug you need to get some of the self adhesive gold foil... The hood will fade overtime from the underhood temps....
Gold foil underneath wuld render that cut invisible
Gold foil underneath wuld render that cut invisible
07-06-2009, 01:10 AM
#439
Team Owner
K after Alex's reasoning of the cut not being visible... You're right... But still after you remove that rug you need to get some of the self adhesive gold foil... The hood will fade overtime from the underhood temps....
Gold foil underneath wuld render that cut invisible
Gold foil underneath wuld render that cut invisible
I'm still telling you guys that you're going to eventually see cracking in the paint from losing the rigidity of that spine. That rug is also a fire retardant, why would you remove it?
07-06-2009, 08:06 AM
#440
Hahaha, some of the 3G guys really crack me up. It's funny how people just talk out of their ass in order to make themselves sound like they know everything... those beams are not for support... their designed to crumple the hood on impacts, hence the indentations. Ever seen a front end collision? Think about it. I will lay down a $20 bet that if people come back to this thread in 2-3 years and ask the original posters if their paint cracked, they will say no. Also don't let people fool you, that mat is not for heat to protect your paint, it's in case your engine goes on fire, the mat falls on top of your motor to prevent spreading the fire. Your paint will be fine people.