The Comptech Supercharger Will Be Here Nov. 05
10-12-2005, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wizlb
We are being told by production that they will begin shipping in November. We currently have over 20 on order, so the wait is slightly longer for new orders; if you would like to place an order, please call sales at 888-626-6783. Thanks for considering Comptech.
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60 whp for both MT and 5AT
Price $4,495.00
CARB approved (this took 6 months)
Installation takes about 8 hours (Comptech charges $105/hr)
Has it's own intake (not an Icebox) and probably isn't compatible with any other
Ships in November
10-12-2005, 10:37 AM
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I'd consider it at $3500 maybe. But for 60whp....... a shot of Nitrous will get you that for about $550.00. Sure it's not 24/7 on demand power but it's not 24/7 decline in fuel economy either. Nice product but at $4500 not including labor it would need to produce way more power to get my money. Just my .02 worth.
10-12-2005, 12:17 PM
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I just don't like how they removed the battery and place it in the truck or under the S/C. Installation should cost you around $800 at most... but $4495 seems a bit steeper than what they originally mentioned at $3580. Either way, 60whp gain isn't bad, it'll mean you'll probably get about 345~350hp.
Kind of remind me of a Mustang Cobra (2004) 390hp S/C mustang
Kind of remind me of a Mustang Cobra (2004) 390hp S/C mustang
10-12-2005, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
I just don't like how they removed the battery and place it in the truck or under the S/C. Installation should cost you around $800 at most... but $4495 seems a bit steeper than what they originally mentioned at $3580. Either way, 60whp gain isn't bad, it'll mean you'll probably get about 345~350hp.
Kind of remind me of a Mustang Cobra (2004) 390hp S/C mustang
Kind of remind me of a Mustang Cobra (2004) 390hp S/C mustang
How do you guys figure your #'s ?
10-12-2005, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 2_FastTLs
345hp whp? I doubt it. The new SAE measurement shows oem whp around 258, adding 60 to that gets you just past 310.
How do you guys figure your #'s ?
How do you guys figure your #'s ?
10-12-2005, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 2_FastTLs
345hp whp? I doubt it. The new SAE measurement shows oem whp around 258, adding 60 to that gets you just past 310.
How do you guys figure your #'s ?
How do you guys figure your #'s ?
10-12-2005, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Whatever you say pal. Sure my numbers are off. 
You aren't comparing apples to apples here. If, based on your theory 7psi is 7psi is 7psi then why would a turbocharged J32 make so much more power at only 6psi than my car did at 7psi? The supercharger takes power to make power. You can't apply your 6.9% or whatever it was across the board for all types of forced induction on all cars.
Lets keep it at just superchargers. 5psi from an MP62 blower will not make the same amount of power as 5psi from a MP90 blower and surely not as much as a MP112 but it would from an MP45. The volume of air from each of those units is different, yet the pressure is the same. I believe you stumbled across some information but you are interpreting it incorrectly.
You aren't comparing apples to apples here. If, based on your theory 7psi is 7psi is 7psi then why would a turbocharged J32 make so much more power at only 6psi than my car did at 7psi? The supercharger takes power to make power. You can't apply your 6.9% or whatever it was across the board for all types of forced induction on all cars.
Lets keep it at just superchargers. 5psi from an MP62 blower will not make the same amount of power as 5psi from a MP90 blower and surely not as much as a MP112 but it would from an MP45. The volume of air from each of those units is different, yet the pressure is the same. I believe you stumbled across some information but you are interpreting it incorrectly.
http://www.kennebell.net/faq/faq-answers1.htm
http://www.kennebell.net/faq/faq-answers2.htm
10-12-2005, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKELB
I just spoke with Comptech and got the following details:
Installation takes about 8 hours (Comptech charges $105/hr)
Ships in November
Installation takes about 8 hours (Comptech charges $105/hr)
Ships in November
As for "ships in November", i'm rubbing my fingers together, that's the world's smallest violin playing. If it does ship in Nov that will be a shock.
10-12-2005, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
I just don't like how they removed the battery and place it in the truck or under the S/C. Installation should cost you around $800 at most... but $4495 seems a bit steeper than what they originally mentioned at $3580. Either way, 60whp gain isn't bad, it'll mean you'll probably get about 345~350hp.
Kind of remind me of a Mustang Cobra (2004) 390hp S/C mustang
Kind of remind me of a Mustang Cobra (2004) 390hp S/C mustang
Wow who is your Mechanic? He must give you the special price.
10-12-2005, 09:55 PM
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I just hope the S/C rumor is actually true this time. We've been through so many due dates with Comptech on this that I really think it's vaporware.
Frankly, it WILL be vaporware until one of our members actually has one installed, AND dynoed. Sorry to sound so jaded, but based on past experience.....and don't get me wrong, I like Comptech and have purchased their excellent products in the past. I'm sure that when this thing is finally released, it will be awesome and to their usual specs.
Frankly, it WILL be vaporware until one of our members actually has one installed, AND dynoed. Sorry to sound so jaded, but based on past experience.....and don't get me wrong, I like Comptech and have purchased their excellent products in the past. I'm sure that when this thing is finally released, it will be awesome and to their usual specs.
10-12-2005, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 2_FastTLs
7psi on a already high compression motor sounds dangerous.
http://www.kennebell.net/faq/faq-answers1.htm
http://www.kennebell.net/faq/faq-answers2.htm
http://www.kennebell.net/faq/faq-answers1.htm
http://www.kennebell.net/faq/faq-answers2.htm
Again whatever you say. You're the expert with all the links to different websites. I however have merely been boosting this motor for over a year now... have many friends with boosted RSX's and S2K's. All high compression motors. What on earth could I possibly know.
10-13-2005, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
I just don't like how they removed the battery and place it in the truck or under the S/C. Installation should cost you around $800 at most... but $4495 seems a bit steeper than what they originally mentioned at $3580. Either way, 60whp gain isn't bad, it'll mean you'll probably get about 345~350hp.
Kind of remind me of a Mustang Cobra (2004) 390hp S/C mustang
Kind of remind me of a Mustang Cobra (2004) 390hp S/C mustang
Rick
BTW, I traded in my 03 cobra that had a KB 2.2 at 18psi....
10-13-2005, 08:23 AM
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With enough fuel i'm sure our motors will be fine. I have done up to 11psi on RSX's that have 11:1 CR with no problems. And one guy has been on that for about 5 months now.
10-13-2005, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by I-MOD
With enough fuel i'm sure our motors will be fine. I have done up to 11psi on RSX's that have 11:1 CR with no problems. And one guy has been on that for about 5 months now.
10-13-2005, 08:54 AM
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To tell you the truth i am more worried about the tranny. 7PSI is not much but Honda is known for their trans problems. I know that you not boosting all the time but i am worried the tranny will blow up on me. I never had problems my RSX tranny but many people did.
10-13-2005, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by I-MOD
With enough fuel i'm sure our motors will be fine. I have done up to 11psi on RSX's that have 11:1 CR with no problems. And one guy has been on that for about 5 months now.
Given that the engine has 11:1 compression, and already requires premium unleaded to run well, what happens when you apply boost? Does the ECU have to retard the ignition timing to a rediculous degree in order to stay out of detonation range?
What kind of gas are you guys running in those boosted engines? If you are not running 100 ocatane, I would bet that you would see a noticeable improvement by using it, as it would allow the ECU to set optimal ignition timing. The only trouble is that it tends to run aroud $5 a gallon out here.
It would seem that the new Accord EX V6-MT, which only has 10:1 compression would be a better option for superchaging, as you could run more boost without running out of octane.
So lets hear the details, what gas are you guys using? I would love to have a boosted TL, but I'm not going to put 100 octane into my daily driver.
10-13-2005, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by shockwave
I have to admit that when I first saw this thread, my first thought was similar to 2_fast; that boosting an already high compression engine was asking for trouble.
I am convinced that slapping a SC onto a OEM TL motor is not the right way to do it. What Comptech has to offer sounds like a novelty item as opposed to a real SC setup.
10-13-2005, 12:53 PM
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A novelty 
You didn't guestimate anything but your sources have.
I'm done commenting here. I've offered my opinion and experience... backed up everything I've said yet there's still non-believers. I understand the "experts" have much more knowledge than I do. But I, along with others on this forum, have tons of first hand experience with these motors and there hasn't been a problem.
Bottom line: If it wasn't safe Acura dealerships would not sell Comptech products, they would not install Comptech products, they would not warranty Comptech products, and they would not keep your factory warranty intact if you add Comptech products to your car. Period. I'm sorry some of you seem to gawk at the 11:1 compression number and freak out but it isn't that large of a hurdle to get around. And the advancements made by Comptech in respect to their new tuning capabilities of the J-Series will make it even safer.
You didn't guestimate anything but your sources have. I'm done commenting here. I've offered my opinion and experience... backed up everything I've said yet there's still non-believers. I understand the "experts" have much more knowledge than I do. But I, along with others on this forum, have tons of first hand experience with these motors and there hasn't been a problem.
Bottom line: If it wasn't safe Acura dealerships would not sell Comptech products, they would not install Comptech products, they would not warranty Comptech products, and they would not keep your factory warranty intact if you add Comptech products to your car. Period. I'm sorry some of you seem to gawk at the 11:1 compression number and freak out but it isn't that large of a hurdle to get around. And the advancements made by Comptech in respect to their new tuning capabilities of the J-Series will make it even safer.
10-13-2005, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by shockwave
Given that the engine has 11:1 compression, and already requires premium unleaded to run well, what happens when you apply boost? Does the ECU have to retard the ignition timing to a rediculous degree in order to stay out of detonation range?
What kind of gas are you guys running in those boosted engines? If you are not running 100 ocatane, I would bet that you would see a noticeable improvement by using it, as it would allow the ECU to set optimal ignition timing. The only trouble is that it tends to run aroud $5 a gallon out here.
It would seem that the new Accord EX V6-MT, which only has 10:1 compression would be a better option for superchaging, as you could run more boost without running out of octane.
So lets hear the details, what gas are you guys using? I would love to have a boosted TL, but I'm not going to put 100 octane into my daily driver.
What kind of gas are you guys running in those boosted engines? If you are not running 100 ocatane, I would bet that you would see a noticeable improvement by using it, as it would allow the ECU to set optimal ignition timing. The only trouble is that it tends to run aroud $5 a gallon out here.
It would seem that the new Accord EX V6-MT, which only has 10:1 compression would be a better option for superchaging, as you could run more boost without running out of octane.
So lets hear the details, what gas are you guys using? I would love to have a boosted TL, but I'm not going to put 100 octane into my daily driver.
No need to increase the octane. On my set-up we just increase fuel pressure via a rising rate fuel pressure regulator and a high-volume fuel pump. Stock injectors are still used. 93 Octane is safe for the high boost pulley with is 5.5-7psi. Those in california limited to 91 octane need to stay with the stock pulley producing about 3.5-4psi.
For what it's worth a CL-S with the 6-speed transmission made 305whp with 4psi, headers and catback exhaust. 85whp gain on 4psi and exhaust work. Low boost + high compression J-Series = huge gains.
The 3rd Gen TL will not have as much success because the exhaust manifolds also serve as cat converters and right now there are no free-flowing replacements for them. Headers alone on the 2nd gen TL/CL produce 25-30 horsepower at the wheels.
10-14-2005, 01:48 PM
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Quick ?
Is there gonna be any group buying to try and get a better price? if not has anyone thought of setting up an account with comptech? for resale? i use to be in the business and use to buy alot from them and we were getting 30% off msrp 4495 - 30%= 3146 has anyone thought of that?
10-23-2005, 11:50 PM
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Allright everyone fess up! Who all here on acurazine has ordered the supercharger. I talked to Ryan at Comptech and there are 25 kits shipping out in November. So atleast one person on acurazine has ordered one.
10-24-2005, 08:04 AM
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Aaaarrrggghhhh!
Not to go off topic here folks, but has anyone looked at the view count for the 2 Supercharger threads?? Over 24,000 in total!!! There has got to be a ton of interest out there. I'm assuming most people are interested, but either practicality or $$ is the main barrier for not going through with it. Just an aside... now back to collecting a list of definite buyers!
10-24-2005, 10:17 AM
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scribe, im definitely interested.. but woudl rather wait and not be the guinea pig on this one. im sure it will work as they say.. but want to see if the overall package is worth it by those who have already placed their order.
im sure it will work as they say.. but want to see if the overall package is worth it by those who have already placed their order.
10-24-2005, 10:42 AM
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I was looking around for warranty information and searched around comptech's website. I saw that a dealer around where I live is an authroized comptech dealer. How does a dealer handle warranty on something like a Comptech supercharger? Does original Acura warranty remain intact?
10-24-2005, 10:43 AM
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Aaaarrrggghhhh!
Originally Posted by invincible569
scribe, im definitely interested.. but woudl rather wait and not be the guinea pig on this one. im sure it will work as they say.. but want to see if the overall package is worth it by those who have already placed their order.
im sure it will work as they say.. but want to see if the overall package is worth it by those who have already placed their order.
10-24-2005, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Scribesoft
As of right now, I'm in the same boat as you. I'm going to wait for some feedback from the "trailblazers".
10-24-2005, 07:18 PM
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Wow.. I wonder if the TL will have a carbon fiber plate like this RSX? He just got his installed...
http://www.houston-imports.com/forum...d.php?t=239850
http://www.houston-imports.com/forum...d.php?t=239850
10-24-2005, 08:39 PM
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