acura101west

special ed your missing the picture,
what im saying ,yes if you can afford it ,but
no matter what you say ,what i know from building motors is that no way in hell this comptech kit will stay relyable for 100k
just wont happen,
but fell free to lay down your cash

now if you told me your doing this to a new or old gs300,(it uses the old supra srtaight six)
sure i would be all for it,and i dont even like how lexus looks,besides the new IS
thats just me,,

i love how people come in off of just one line of what i said and try to tear me a new one,read the whole story here,
TL is a poor platform to start with and thats why mine is for sale
i have been loyal honda guy for my of years but when the came to american they have dropped the ball big time in quality and thats a fact!!!

mrsteve

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Okay. I'm done. We're going around and round in circles.

Have fun counting on the stock fuel cut to save your motor when you bounce of the limiter LOL. That's the whole point of a secondary rpm switch for the nitrous. So that when your ECU cuts fuel at redline you aren't still spraying. Spray + no fuel =

acura101west

and if you want a little more power and can afford it, get a bmw,used M5 or used M3
lots of other and better choices not just bmw
also all i said is real power is 400+
tl makes good power on its own,but no where near real power,come on please read before you plan to rip on me,,,
power can be what you make of it and how it feels to you,

acura101west

mrsteve,only people like you will run into that,smart people will have it done right or know what they are doing
sure that can happen,but a professional shop wont let thathappen cause they will set it up right!!!
true shop will set it up correctly-so that will not happen
what else mesteve
are you planning on telling me what can go wrong ---or what will go wrong when set up right,big difference
cant you understand

acura101west

well i guess you did teach me one thing new today
as much as you tell what is fact and correct,they will not listen

so im done too,good luck on you new motors when you get your kits guys
have a good day
100k lmao
so everything you read in print must be true???????????
i though acura owners would be a little smarter then that

mrsteve

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The intent of the Comptech SC isn't to make 400+whp! You need to read everything before you start posting. It's to give the horsepower a moderate increase to enhance the driving experience without compromising day-to-day driving reliability.

mrsteve

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Where's your data to say it won't hold up till 100K? We're talking 4psi here. That's NOTHING.

acura101west

if you think your right ,your right,i dont care, i said im done,
just find out the hard way
talk to any professional engine builder,they will set you straight

mrsteve

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<---- 60K miles of boost under my belt. No worries.

acura101west

it comes down to this ,i will stick to my mustang site where people are a little smarter then you and know what they are talking about,
im sure at 22 you think you know more them me,but not true,i have been drag racing and bulilding motors while you where still a baby.all kids are just like you at that age so was i,good luck

mrsteve

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Nice way to end your debate. Bring it down to an age difference.

You didn't even know the difference between the ECU's rev limiter and a RPM window switch for nitrous.

You continue to compare the Mustang to the TL. Two completely different cars AND the supercharger packages for both cars have completely different design intentions. You can't seem to look past that.

You're taking your mustang "knowledge" and your "16 years" and think you can directly apply that to this platform. You just can't do that with any credibility because it isn't apples to apples.

mrsteve

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You openly admitted previously that the Mach1 runs 11.0:1 compression and that a kit is designed to push 9psi through that motor. Comptech is taking a motor with the same compression and only boosting 4psi. So much for the "high compression can't be boosted" argument. In fact through your barely coherent ranting you've helped my argument more than your own.

acura101west

sure kid

mrsteve

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That was too easy. Exact response I was expecting.



Thanks, I believe you've proved my point.

acura101west

sure you did kid,

mrsteve

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I sure did what? You still don't make any sense.

And I like how you're the one resorting to juvenile tactics by calling me a "kid" Oh the irony.

Come up with some facts based on first hand knowledge, learn how to debate using relevant material, and then come back. I'll be around.

acura101west

i dont havce time for stupid kids,have a nice day

Scribesoft

^ Look at this thread. You obviously DO have the time....

How about we all exhale and move along?

mrsteve

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mrsteve

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And you're 9 years older than me and make it seem like you're old and wise enough to be my father.

acura101west

im out sick today,and im having fun ,but i still dont have time for a stupid kid
mach one was used for comparing ,i never said it will last kid
i plan to go all night ,i dont work tomorrow either
the kid thinks hes knowns what he is saying, but i dont plan to write a book to teach him,i have other sites to read
your half facts makes you look stupid
im waiting for a person that states a ture fact that is whole in truth

mrsteve

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What more do you need for the "whole truth?" I've had 2 of these kits on 2 different cars.

I know 6 people with boosted RSXs on stock blocks

I know 3 people locally with boosted CL/TLs.

No one has problems.

The only truth you've posted here is that you have no idea what you're talking about with this platform because you have no first hand experience with it.

acura101west

nine is alot but i still know a hell of alot more about cars then you ever will
your every funny and yes i plan to go all night with you ,you keep trying to pic me apart but what you say doesnt make sense
you think like saying compression ratios are same ,doesnt mean shit kid,come on find something better to type in here,and stop stating half facts,its getting old correcting you

mrsteve

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Truths:

Is there a dramatic increase in IAT? Yes. Values are around 180-200F @ WOT
Is there a sufficient increase in fuel to sustain these increased temps and manifold pressures? Absolutely. Fuel pressure increases to 100psi.

In the hundreds of thousands of combined miles that the 2nd Gen TL/CL has been boosted has ANYONE on this site every had an internal engine failure? Yes. Truthfully one motor blew because the stock plugs were still installed and not the IK22's that come with the kit. Other than that? No. No problems. No clutch failures. No abnormal automatic transmission failures. What else do you need proved?

mrsteve

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See you make irrational statements that can never be proven. How can you say that you'll know a hell of a lot more about cars than I ever will? There's no way of you being able to sustain that argument. Just like 70% of what you've posted in this thread.

acura101west

and again any stock block doest last long,pull one apart and look for stress cracks
on the rods,factory rods suck on any car,i wont even go there on the pistons,only made for stock again with your half facts,stop it
aftermarket companies would not sell motor parts if stock was so strong ,lol ,lmao
come on kid give some more of you half facts ?????


im waiting kid

mrsteve

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Aftermarket companies don't sell internals for the J-Series. Everything is custom ordered :shurg: Try again

mrsteve

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We can end this really quickly.

Tell me please what knowledge you have as to the strength of this particular motor. What first hand experience do you have? What can you show me, other than your general (and vague) knowledge of forced induction, that will prove to me this motor can't sustain 4psi. Because I've run nearly twice that for a combination of 60K miles on two cars without so much as a hiccup.

Smitty

Myself and 4 others made over 360 WHP on a stock 03 CL-S CLUTCH without any problems.

acura101west

and smitty how many passes did it last for ?

mrsteve

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10 Months of hard driving. Still feels like stock. Just like mine.

EDIT: Smitty was making 320-330 for about 2 years before he increased the boost to 9psi with an intercooler. That bumped him up to around 360-370.

The life of the clutch depends a lot on how you drive not

subinf

mrsteve and i dont really agree on a lot of things but i have to side with him on this...i dont know much about supercharged cars (only owned one) but from looking at whose argument makes more sense and who is really to the point...gotta give it to mrsteve. this is pretty interesting to read though

mrsteve

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Still waiting on an answer

acura101west

kid ,still with your half facts you got to stop,just cause you and your cars and you got lucky,still im sure you never torn it down to see the real wear,i will say this one last time,safe means you can do as you please not just one or two passes in a blue moon,
i have worked on street bikes to civics to lastly my stang ,i personally dont race right now ,but plan to get back into it,
what i do is sell acuras over the internet as a manager and sell race parts on the side,my friend welds them i sell them,intercooler and aftercooler and u-bends for piping
all you guys keep trying to tell me what safe means on a motor ,you dont have a clue,talk to a engine builder
stock never lasts and will fail at some point,depending on what you do with the car and how its driven
so again no stock rods or pistons will last
and again talk to a engine builder
so how long are we going to go back and fourth?????????
and 4psi to 10 psi,it doesnt matter,what matters is the stress the metal can take,
stock is stock for a reason
its like saying you will live forever
for some real facts read kenne bell site ,he will say stock internals need to be changed for safe operation
theres your proof

mrsteve

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LOL one or two passes? I made 60+ passes in my supercharged automatic CL-S. You know, the automatic transmission that's plagued with problems. No worries whatsoever. You keep making assumptions that just aren't true.

All motors will fail at some point. That's just the nature of the beast. But you nor I know when that will happen. Will the addition of the supercharger decrease the life of the motor? It sure will. Will it reduce it to the point where it is a concern? Highly doubtful.

You act as if a stock motor is constructed to it's absolute maximum tolerance and that if any additional strain is put on it that it will shatter like glass.

So you're an internet car salesman. That absolutely makes you an expert here.

Kenne Bell knows nothing about the J-Series or what kind of power it can handle. No need to waste my time there.

Explain to me how what I'm saying is a "half-fact?" Where am I wrong? I'm speaking from my own personal experience with my own hands and my own cars.

mrsteve

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Here's a few more FACTS for you. 38 Honda and Acura dealerships nationwide are Comptech vendors. meaning they sell, install, and warranty Comptech products. Including Acura 101 West in California which judging by your username is your place of employment.

Now Comptech offers supercharger packages for at least 7 different Honda/Acura vehicles and Honda engineers actually played a roll in designing Comptech's ACM for the 3rd Gen TL kit.

Do you really think Honda NA would want anything to do with a company that made a product that was extremely detrimental to their factory automobiles? Use some common sense here. Where's the "half truth" in that?

mrsteve

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Oh and there's an awful of wheel spin in this clip but the clutch sure does fine:

http://photos.imageevent.com/mrsteve...51009_0002.AVI

acura101west

my point got lost here
it is that a eaton supercharger(heat monster) at 5 grand is not worth putting on a car with problems and no it wont last to a 100k
just doesnt make sense

and for my good buddie mrsteve with all of his half facts,your just lucky with your auto for it to last that long with or without supercharger

still doesnt prove you know what your talking about,your just lucky,call any turbo company or motor builder and get them to explain why you need to change parts out cause you wont listen to me,and for your info piston and rods are custom and yes they sell them for this and any motor made,you just dont know shit son,you dont order pistons by name of car or engine #,it by application and use,you will soon find this out with one call,do you really think no companys make aftermarket pistons in 3.2???????????damm your stupid kid

a beg of you to stop you your half facts

mrsteve

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LOL... So are you saying that all 3.2L motors use the same pistons?

mrsteve

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And you're right it's all just luck. Me along with the dozens of other people who have had zero problems with the kit and/or the motor.

Where's the half truth in that? You're horrible at this you know that?