FEELER: Plug and play factory amp replacement?
#81
Team Owner
Oh, I know it's DO-ABLE, but if we're paying for a PnP harness (which we would be), I'd like to know if this would be a possible configuration we could choose from...
Curious to see how this pans out, I'm on the trigger for some Ultimate Pedals right now, might have to hold off on that...
Curious to see how this pans out, I'm on the trigger for some Ultimate Pedals right now, might have to hold off on that...
#82
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aside from chaning the ohm resistance, is it really necessary to split signal from the mid and the tweet? Even component sets run them off 1 channel (given, they include a beefy crossover).
uncald, sounds like we have similar connections, although I ended up taking my signal directly behind headunit (soldered rca leads). When I did this though, the signal was too low for the aftermarket amp and I ended up having to add a line driver. Is the RF amp getting a good enough signal becasue it has speaker level inputs?
I appreciate your input.
uncald, sounds like we have similar connections, although I ended up taking my signal directly behind headunit (soldered rca leads). When I did this though, the signal was too low for the aftermarket amp and I ended up having to add a line driver. Is the RF amp getting a good enough signal becasue it has speaker level inputs?
I appreciate your input.
#83
aside from chaning the ohm resistance, is it really necessary to split signal from the mid and the tweet? Even component sets run them off 1 channel (given, they include a beefy crossover).
uncald, sounds like we have similar connections, although I ended up taking my signal directly behind headunit (soldered rca leads). When I did this though, the signal was too low for the aftermarket amp and I ended up having to add a line driver. Is the RF amp getting a good enough signal becasue it has speaker level inputs?
I appreciate your input.
uncald, sounds like we have similar connections, although I ended up taking my signal directly behind headunit (soldered rca leads). When I did this though, the signal was too low for the aftermarket amp and I ended up having to add a line driver. Is the RF amp getting a good enough signal becasue it has speaker level inputs?
I appreciate your input.
#88
Since this is not a 6 channel solution, what are you guys going to do so you dont loose the center and sub?
I have not dove into the audio system on the TL at all since I picked it up this summer. I'd like my car to look 100% stock so I dont want to change any speaker sizes or add a sub in the trunk.
But I'd like to have some cleaner more powerful sound
I have not dove into the audio system on the TL at all since I picked it up this summer. I'd like my car to look 100% stock so I dont want to change any speaker sizes or add a sub in the trunk.
But I'd like to have some cleaner more powerful sound
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^^^ J so that stock speakers we are giving ~60Watts at 2ohms....how much do you think the stock sub can handle ?
#93
That price is subject to change after the first 10.
I'll get a group buy thread posted in the Sponsored Sale area within a few days. If you're ready to purchase before then please send me a PM.
#97
Wait time will be very short. If we're getting speedy core returns. Looking at two or three day turn around.
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That's an amazing service...I wish I had had this option before getting as deep into it as I already am. Initially, I felt like I would have been happy with the stock system but just a little more powerful in all source modes. Now, I'm too far gone but think it's great that you now have the option. GREAT alternative to replacing the stupid noisy factory amp.
#100
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Not extremely car audio savy here. I upgraded all 7 of my interior speakers with infinity kappa speakers to try and get some better quality sound from my stock setup. I think it helped a bit but nothing great. Stock sub is removed.
All the infinity speakers are 4ohm. This amp is 75 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohm. I dont really understand the ohm thing but will this work?
I also have a 10" alpine R sub in a sealed box in the trunk with a rockford amp. There is a line out converter coming from the stock subwoofer speaker wire. I wanted it this way so I would have control over the sub gain by using the stock head unit.
I saw mentioned that a "RCA pigtail for subwoofer option" would be available. If this is the case, would I just ditch my loc and run the rca's from the front amp to my sub amp? If so, wouldnt I lose the option to control the sub gain with the stock headunit? Any way to work that out?
All the infinity speakers are 4ohm. This amp is 75 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohm. I dont really understand the ohm thing but will this work?
I also have a 10" alpine R sub in a sealed box in the trunk with a rockford amp. There is a line out converter coming from the stock subwoofer speaker wire. I wanted it this way so I would have control over the sub gain by using the stock head unit.
I saw mentioned that a "RCA pigtail for subwoofer option" would be available. If this is the case, would I just ditch my loc and run the rca's from the front amp to my sub amp? If so, wouldnt I lose the option to control the sub gain with the stock headunit? Any way to work that out?
#101
Yes you'd just ditch the LOC. And you should be able to still control the sub with the stock head-unit because the rockford aftermarket amp is basically the stock amp with more power. You'll definitely notice a different. Aftermarket speakers don't do justice until you amp them.
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libert69 (10-17-2011)
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The new amp is only wired and meant to power the four inside speakers so I'd doubt that it'll still maintain sub gain control. Your trunk mounted sub amp would need one of those bass gain knobs you could mount somewhere up front (honestly, this is so much easier to adjust as each song changes how much bass it has, especially XM).
About Ohm...it's pretty easy if you think of it simply. Ohms are measurements of resistance to the wattage being presented.
So let's say a 1 ohm stable amp puts out 500 watts at 4 ohms of resistance (speaker determines the resistance...2 ohm dvc etc...check out the12volt.com for more info). That same amp would put out 1000 watts at 1/2 of that resistance at 2 ohms and another 500 watts at 1 ohm wiring, for a total of 1500 watts.
Make sense?
About Ohm...it's pretty easy if you think of it simply. Ohms are measurements of resistance to the wattage being presented.
So let's say a 1 ohm stable amp puts out 500 watts at 4 ohms of resistance (speaker determines the resistance...2 ohm dvc etc...check out the12volt.com for more info). That same amp would put out 1000 watts at 1/2 of that resistance at 2 ohms and another 500 watts at 1 ohm wiring, for a total of 1500 watts.
Make sense?
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libert69 (10-17-2011)
#103
The new amp is only wired and meant to power the four inside speakers so I'd doubt that it'll still maintain sub gain control. Your trunk mounted sub amp would need one of those bass gain knobs you could mount somewhere up front (honestly, this is so much easier to adjust as each song changes how much bass it has, especially XM).
#105
Suzuka Master
I am really interested in making my front stage sound better with this more powerful amp, but how do we maintain center speaker output for our navi voice? I really need that.
#107
I think that the subwoofer pigtail would just be added on the preamp side using the subwoofer outputs so that you could just connect the RCA from there back to the subwoofer amp. If that's the case you would still have subwoofer control from the head unit and wouldn't need the extra controller.
Originally Posted by libert69
When is the group buy going to start?
Originally Posted by pohljm
I am really interested in making my front stage sound better with this more powerful amp, but how do we maintain center speaker output for our navi voice? I really need that.
Originally Posted by 08TList
im in!
#110
Hell yes!
Here you go!
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...1#post13307549
Sorry for the delay on getting this up fellas. I got the sickness and feel like ish. And my iMac's have been for hours in migration assistant. Oy.. what a task.
I'll post up the group buy roster on that thread as soon as possible.
Originally Posted by quakerroatmeal
When you post the group buy thread can you link through here. Count me in as well!
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...1#post13307549
Sorry for the delay on getting this up fellas. I got the sickness and feel like ish. And my iMac's have been for hours in migration assistant. Oy.. what a task.
I'll post up the group buy roster on that thread as soon as possible.
#111
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#112
Suzuka Master
If we are using this and we come up with a solution to power the center channel will our music still mute when phone and navi voice comes in?
#113
We've routed the center channel signal to the left front, for nav prompt purposes only. When you're playing music and a prompt comes up... your music will mute down, the prompt will play through the left front and then your music will unmute and carry on. Pretty much the way it does now but without the center channel.
#114
Suzuka Master
sounds perfect! so whats the pricing deal with a combination of the plug and play amp and a sub enclosure? looking for a one stop shopping experience. subs and sub amp available?
#116
I have a really big problem with this application of this amplifier...
The factory speakers in the TL are all 2ohm and this particular amp from Rockford states that "This amplifier is only capable of operation at 4 ohm".
http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/produ...n_US&p_status=
Read for yourself (under the specification tab "rated power")! This means the amplifier may work for a very short while, but will have serious problems long term!
UNCALD4, can you please explain this?
The factory speakers in the TL are all 2ohm and this particular amp from Rockford states that "This amplifier is only capable of operation at 4 ohm".
http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/produ...n_US&p_status=
Read for yourself (under the specification tab "rated power")! This means the amplifier may work for a very short while, but will have serious problems long term!
UNCALD4, can you please explain this?
#117
I have a really big problem with this application of this amplifier...
The factory speakers in the TL are all 2ohm and this particular amp from Rockford states that "This amplifier is only capable of operation at 4 ohm".
http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/produ...n_US&p_status=
Read for yourself (under the specification tab "rated power")! This means the amplifier may work for a very short while, but will have serious problems long term!
UNCALD4, can you please explain this?
The factory speakers in the TL are all 2ohm and this particular amp from Rockford states that "This amplifier is only capable of operation at 4 ohm".
http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/produ...n_US&p_status=
Read for yourself (under the specification tab "rated power")! This means the amplifier may work for a very short while, but will have serious problems long term!
UNCALD4, can you please explain this?
After using the amp in these high end cars we tried it in a 2004 TL. This is a TL that we had done all sorts of cool audio in but the guy was still running the factory amp. Anyhow, the factory amp went out. We wired in this Rockford and that sucker sounded amazing too. That was months ago. Since then the dude has blown 2 subs so you know he beats his shit. But that little Rockford is still bangin' away! Still sounds tremendous!
#118
Ha ha... you're not the first. We have used the amp previously in 2 ohm BOSE equipped cars like the Viper, Escalade, Denali and a handful of 996 and 997 Porsche's. We've only done this after conversations with Rockford technicians. They gave the thumbs up and thought it was awesome that we had developed this plug and play kit. It works great. Sounds great.
After using the amp in these high end cars we tried it in a 2004 TL. This is a TL that we had done all sorts of cool audio in but the guy was still running the factory amp. Anyhow, the factory amp went out. We wired in this Rockford and that sucker sounded amazing too. That was months ago. Since then the dude has blown 2 subs so you know he beats his shit. But that little Rockford is still bangin' away! Still sounds tremendous!
After using the amp in these high end cars we tried it in a 2004 TL. This is a TL that we had done all sorts of cool audio in but the guy was still running the factory amp. Anyhow, the factory amp went out. We wired in this Rockford and that sucker sounded amazing too. That was months ago. Since then the dude has blown 2 subs so you know he beats his shit. But that little Rockford is still bangin' away! Still sounds tremendous!
If you can get a Rockford Fosgate to give a letter of sorts saying this application (that goes against their owners manual) is proper and covered, then I would say "go for it".
#119
Even with that said, long term usage and voiding of warranty should still be a very large concern for anyone looking into this package. I was told many things the old school waffle amps could do, but was also told, doing those things would void my warranty.
If you can get a Rockford Fosgate to give a letter of sorts saying this application (that goes against their owners manual) is proper and covered, then I would say "go for it".
If you can get a Rockford Fosgate to give a letter of sorts saying this application (that goes against their owners manual) is proper and covered, then I would say "go for it".
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