Skeedatl

Oh please. We all know it was because the Acura deal doesn't take food stamps.

harddrivin1le

It's $5,200 for the kit PLUS installation.

Then I'm left with the OEM shocks, springs, wheels, tires and steering whell that I just paid for when I bought the stock car.

That's nuts.

Skeedatl

The new Gen IV Slomero Mullet...notice the long sloping hoodlines...fools dumbass perspective rattlebox Slomero buyers into actually thinking for a second that slow plastic is cool.

Norse396

I was quote 5k installed, as for the extra parts, oh well. This is why we have the choice to not buy it if that bothers us.

DARK6mt

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yeah, so you come here and talk shiet? come on dude, if the price doesn't do it for ya, SIMPLY DON'T nobody is forcing you.


JUST BUY A HYUNDAI :o

Skeedatl

Hyundai doesn't take food stamps either. Slomeromullet is outta luck.

harddrivin1le

Did you pay the $5K?

I'd have bought the car (and sold my Z28 to front the cost difference) IF Acura offered the A-spec (minus the plastic body cladding) as a ~ $1,900 FACTORY/RPO option.

They don't, so I kept the Camaro and settled for an EX/V6 Accord sedan.

Do you own a 396 Chevy powered car (re: your username)?

DARK6mt

iTrader: (1)

Good for you. Now you have some money saved, go get yourself the best suspension for your accord

harddrivin1le

I leased it (President's Day special deal through American Honda). So I don't plan on putting $$ into the car.

I did order rubber (225/55-16) for the stock rims. The OEM 205/60-16s will go back on the car when I turn the car back in.

The car is under-tired as it comes, but I knew that going in.

Aside from that, it's a marvelous car for the money and it's pretty damn fast (for a 3.0 liter V6 sedan).

Honda/Acura make GREAT cars. But they aren't perfect.

svtmike

He argues as well as a parrot.

Mike

DARK6mt

iTrader: (1)

lease??? you are so conservative but you leased???

harddrivin1le

The math worked in this (rare) case.

I can live with the 12K miles per year because I have the 2nd car.

Absolutely NOTHING (ZERO!) down, Honda of America paid the first month's payment for me (1st of 36, meaning I pay just 35) and the deal included sales tax (applies to the lease portion of the sale) and 1st year's registration.

So I make 35 payments of $339 per month, wear out the bigger rubber over the next 35 months, throw the OEM rubber back on and I'm done with it.

Click on "Weekly ads" after you open the link:

http://nitra.hondadealer.com/saccucc...mePage_1.chtml

Norse396

I wasn't really interested in the A-Spec, I like it but I like the standard setup better. I'm old, what can I say.

I test drove a new EX V6, I liked it a lot, I liked the TL better so that's what I bought after looking at a host of different cars.

I sold my 1969 SS Chevelle last year, it featured a 580hp big block and did pretty well at the car shows, I miss that car big time.

harddrivin1le

The TL is a wonderful car...for what it is.

I'm into performance (and corners) and am VERY disappointed about how Acura chose to market the A-spec.

In terms of LS1 cars, Even Smith piloted a bone stock Z28 to a 12.89 for GM High Tech Performance Magazine. The 1LE car below was also bone stock and managed a 13.15 @ 108 MPH plus.

Granted, those are the exceptions rather the norm. But my point is that one doesn't ncessarily have to knock 3 full seconds off the stock ET in order to get an LS1 F-body into the (high) tens.

Some of the later LS1 F-bodies dynoed @ 320 plus REAR WHEEL HP in bone stock trim (and I do mean BONE STOCK). That's 89 less than the 409 figure I mentioned. A good cam, a good set of headers (open long tubes?) and few other external mods could certainly add 8X RWHP.

http://popularmechanics.com/automoti.../index11.phtml

Skeedatl

harddrivin1le

4th gen cars don't look like that.

They don't use the same engine.

They don't use the same transmission.

They don't use the same upper body structure...

Etc, etc, etc, etc....

THIS is what MY '99 1LE Z28 looks like. I'm sorry I didn't include a rear-view shot of the car, because that's all you'd ever be seeing.

I don't expect you to understand this car, since it lacks 20" chrome wheels, a "slammed" (and probably geometrically incorrect) suspension, a hyperactive engine to which the term "torque" remains a mystery, etc...

svtmike

That's a great reason to go out trolling on the internet and make an ass of yourself.

Others (including me) have made that exact point without feeling the need to harangue the residents about completely unrelated topics.

But, I really think you just crave the attention you're getting and are enjoying your little troll through the park.

Mike

Skeedatl

Skeedatl

Wow, what a pile of crap. I'm surprised you would take that plastic POS out in the daytime. At least you cropped out the picture of the tow truck that dragged that slow pile out there.

harddrivin1le

Skeedatl

1LESlomero says

harddrivin1le

It's essentially as hot as an ~ $85K NSX around a road racing circuit...for 1/4 the price.:wow:

And that was BEFORE the headers, the cat-back, the cold air kit, the welded sub-frame connectors, the Recaro seats, the B&M shifter, etc...

Skeedatl

Yeah...the same pictures of a plastic pile of slow crap! Does it come with the cat box it shipped in? You can almost see the coat hangars hanging off that abortion!

harddrivin1le

It's ~ 150 pounds LIGHTER than a TL and does this - STOCK:

So if it's "Slow," what does that make the TL?

http://www.ericohlsen.com/FBODY/CamaroDyno.jpg

Skeedatl

Is it a Slomero? Is it a Slomero? Is it a Slomero? Is it a Slomero? Nyaaaaaaaa!

harddrivin1le

Welcome to my "IGNORE" list.

You make fun of poor and retarted people instead of productively participating in a mature exchange.

Have fun...

Skeedatl

You come in and troll the TL forums with your Slomero bull-S and you're offended?

Now that is the funniest thing you've said yet.

Come back to the TL forums when you actually OWN a TL troll.

DARK6mt

iTrader: (1)

Harddriven - if you enjoy a-spec (its basically handling ) and thats what is most important ( so important that you foolishly changed your mind to leasing honda accord.....and you think this z28 is king of sports car (is that your car picture? or just someone else's)

I don't get it. If handling was your most important factor then why the Z28? you seem contradictory in what you want and what you have.

Why not an STI? 4 door, it must be accepted as luxury since you are stepping up from chevy.

Or RX-8? even g35 and Z.....Cuz I agree on one thing.....a-spec kit is overpriced......i have stock 6 speed........but I bought my car for the right reasons, therefore very happy with purchase

I can't see how leasing a accord or a tricked out chevy make you darn happy.......especially the accord SEDAN.

harddrivin1le

Apparently you're unfamiliar with the handling characteristics of a 1LE F-body....

Here.

Become familiar.

It's an outstanding mix of BALLS, overall handling and affordable price (I paid $21,300 for mine).

http://www.1le.net/

http://chuckb.1le.net/archive/past_c...o_1le_main.htm

DARK6mt

iTrader: (1)

WHHHHoooo buddy....what is that? I don't know you like that

harddrivin1le

The pewter car I posted above is mine and I can post the window sticker to prove it if "required."

Trust me, you know not of what you speak.

Click on the "Video" link in the main link below.

http://chuckb.1le.net/archive/past_c...o_1le_main.htm

DARK6mt

iTrader: (1)

but explain your answer more clearly. I mean, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING? accord was clearly the last car you should have gotten.....according to what you have posted for past 2~3 days

harddrivin1le

No...I DON'T understand.

The Accord EX/V6 sedan is a very comfortable, nice performing car for "everyday driving."

And I still have the 1LE for the days when I feel like attacking the road (and people driving Acuras who THINK they bought a fast car.)

Bartman_RENAMED

Congrats!!!!

You are the only Accord owner sporting a "Mullett"

Get in your Camaro, put on your favorite 8-track tape, and drive off a cliff.:thefinger

harddrivin1le

But is doesn't have an 8 track tape player...

Norse396

Any car running in the 14's is fast enough for most. It wasn't too long ago the Camaro ran in the 16's with a 350. It's all relative.

harddrivin1le

You didn't mention what you saw when you picked up the April issue of HOT ROD today....

It was quite some time ago that 350 Camaros were running in the 16s...The '87 TPI 350s were in the 14s...

And the '83 5.0 (305) "HO" could run low to upper 15s (depending on auto or manual).

That was 21 model years ago...

Time FLIES....:wow:

I agree with you - "14s is fast enough for most."

My Accord V6/auto feels pretty decent - certainly more than the vast majority of its owners will ever use....And that's a low 15 second car...

Norse396

My point wasn't qtr mile times, but alas if you would like a friendly wager I have a friend with a naturally aspirated 69 Camaro who would be glad to show you his tail lights.

If this was only about qtr mile times none of us would have bought the TL. I test drove an SS Camaro, it was a pile of crap, the Firebird was an only slightly better pile of crap, in any trim/power level.

In my last Mustang ('85 5Liter coupe) it ran 11.9's with off the shelf Ford parts, but again we need to digress because this thread was never about cars, it was about stupid head lights.

HID's are fine, but then that point has been made over and over.

harddrivin1le

It takes a LOT for a 5.0 (I've owned 2) to run with a bone stock LS1 car and the gap grows quickly as speeds increase.

Now, what did the "cam only" LS1 car featured in the April '04 issue of HOT ROD run?

Norse396

I stopped at the Pig and they don't have the April issue in stock so it will wait until tomorrow.

And now a lowly V6 Honda is in the 14's and the engine has plenty left to give.

HO back then was a contradiction in terms, but for the time it fit I suppose.

Considering that the average "muscle car" of the 60's couldn't do any better I'd say it should be enough.