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Blackvue gb
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Majofo

Their margin is too high.. pass.

swoosh

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is it now

Majofo

Majofo

Reviews online point to several failures and cust service issues as well. Caveat emptor.

swoosh

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I have had no issues with mine so far
Lets see how this will hold up

But the price from BV was too good to pass

JJH

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Hey Justin, you can test drive a Kia and get a free $25 Visa gift card
I'm sure you'll take this offer up.

http://slickdeals.net/f/5830028-Test...visa-gift-card

http://www.thekiaoffer.com/BigGame/

They are so desperate to get people in their cars that they are paying you to test drive them.

justnspace

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neat! thanks JJH

will be test driving the turbo'd ones!

Undying Dreams

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"We'll give you TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for your piece of shit trade in!"

JJH

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Is that the Kia Optima? I'm going right now to test drive that one from the commercial with the brunette

Edit:
Actually, what's the fastest kia available right now?

justnspace

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either the optima with the turbo
or
the sportage with the turbo.

I think.
Suspension sucks on both tho.

sauceja

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Its a KIA the whole car sucks.

Undying Dreams

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^ Thanks x1000

Majofo

u mad bc kia is faster than your TL.

Undying Dreams

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Ya I'm totally annoyed.

Majofo

Does the dash crack? how about the seats.. do they tear? how about the engine mounts and compliance bushings.. are they made of putty? and the transmission.. is it made of glass?

sauceja

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I've owned a KIA, once. Sold it before it had 50k miles because the maintenance costs were killing me.

Door motor went out, alternator went out + new battery due to that, brakes were shot well before that. Fog light never worked, rear dvd player quit working. Thats just what I can remember off the top of my head.

Every panel I had to remove to fix stuff the tabs broke. Not the clips, but the piece of the panel that the clip attaches to. That was on the first try, and I have panel tools to avoid that problem. The dash was too hard to crack. Felt like metal.

I will pass.

Undying Dreams

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Maj, every car has faults, you're picking the main ones that many people run into on here.

I'm sure if we went on a KIA forum they have problems just like any other car.

Let me ask you this, would you buy a KIA?

sauceja

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And before you say they have changed and are better now. They had a chance with me. First impressions, and they failed miserably.

I will not be returning to them. I strayed from Honda and got slapped in the face.

I will keep my pickups from Ford and cars/vans from Honda.

Hasn't done me wrong yet. Have had several Hondas well over 100k miles and my van has 210+K miles now and is driven every day. I have had an accord wagon with 256K miles. I did swap the tranny in my van Dec 2011, it lasted 85K miles longer than most I have read about on the internet.
Honda has not been known to have good A/T transmissions especially in early 2000's on the v6 models.

I have had a Ford Bronco II with 170K miles and my 2000 Ford F150 has 168K miles on it now with basic maintenance. And by that I mean spark plugs and fluid changes and brake jobs. No issues.

But to each their own.

Majofo

Yep. I think Kia is going in the right direction. Unlike Honda.

Kia also backs up their vehicles with a 10 yr / 100k mile warranty.. no extra cost.

And compared to Saucy's issues.. TL takes the cake.

swoosh

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I wont be surprised at all if thats Justn and his mom racing in that video :race:

she beat him good

Majofo

I heard that as well..

swoosh

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I agree with Maj here....KIA has gotten better 10000x....the TL has gotten worse...

KIA along with Hyundai, we POS's couple years back....but I think they company is headed in the right direction....they are making great changes to the car...the exterior styling for one (never thought i would call a Hyundai or a KIA, "sexy") but I have started to really like Koreans LOL

Majofo

Mmmmm.... Koreans.

swoosh

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hey to each his own....you might like ^^^ but I like this:

Majofo

Mmmmm... 라면

swoosh

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EPIC !!!

05_NBP_TL

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Wonder how many wrecks these guys have witnessed?

Majofo

JJH

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Test drove the 2.0T optima... Pretty quick! I'd rather spend my $37k elsewhere though. For 274hp, not bad at all

GKinColo08TL

I don't think you can test drive the brunette no matter how fast you are or she is.

GKinColo08TL

Crazy...does a Kia come with a spare tire? Hyundai doesn't...have a friend that bought the Sonata Hybrid...no spare. That's how the consumer pays for the 100K warranty.

A SiQ TL

this seems strangely familiar

Sargy

I miss you Majofo

justnspace

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Most cars now a days dont come with spares.

Moot point.

Franchise1124

I don't really see anything so special about the Optima in any trim to be honest

justnspace

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meh, nothing special.
competition is a great thing.

hopefully, it'll motivate honda.

Majofo

Sargy!



Is the rebuild done? You rolling yet?



The big plus.. weight reduction.

I carry slime, plugs, and a kick ass air compressor.

I think Honda has become complacent. They need a kick in the ass. They scrap the v8, they scrap the turbo, uninspiring body design. The next gen should hopefully be better than the current.

GKinColo08TL

We bought a new CR-v in December, it has a spare...technically not a car tho...

justnspace

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the brand new 2010 Dodge Challenger SRT I drove did NOT have a spare.