2007+ MERGED THREAD, SPECS ARE NOW ON PAGE 1, POST #1
07-26-2006, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Drunkenmunky23
why couldn't those ppl just get a e320, which is a 6cyl.....? 
07-26-2006, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by beldredge
Certainly Acura needs to differentiate the TL and RL, but holding the TL back by denying it more power and AWD shouldn't be the way to do it.
I was thinking about this last night - BMW, for example, has the 330xi and 530xi. Both share the same engine and drivetrain, but that alone doesn't mean the 3-series incringes on the 5-series' sales. There are other, more fundamental, differences, such as a significant size difference and perhaps some extra luxury feel to the 5-series that meets certain buyers' needs.
Hopefully by 2009 when the TL is made-over, presumably with AWD, Acura will start figuring out how to better differentiate the RL without sacrificing the advancement of the TL.
I was thinking about this last night - BMW, for example, has the 330xi and 530xi. Both share the same engine and drivetrain, but that alone doesn't mean the 3-series incringes on the 5-series' sales. There are other, more fundamental, differences, such as a significant size difference and perhaps some extra luxury feel to the 5-series that meets certain buyers' needs.
Hopefully by 2009 when the TL is made-over, presumably with AWD, Acura will start figuring out how to better differentiate the RL without sacrificing the advancement of the TL.
07-26-2006, 02:42 PM
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When you really think of it cars like TL and ES by lexus are in their own class, they are maybe the same size as BMW5series or E class, A6 ect but they are made to be FWD cuz they go after the people that want a nice car with just plain old FWD. There are so many FWD cars on the market that don't have all the bells and whistels if you are someone that likes an Accord but, want something in the Lxry dept its nice they make a car like the TL or if your a Camry person its nice you can choose an ES. Cars like the RL, M, GS, E class, 5Series are in a class of their own. The German Car co's Are all about RWD or AWD, the Japs seem to like and mix it up, thats what makes everyone stand out in their own way, if everybody made a TL it wouldn't be much fun. Acura trys to stand out on opt's, they are the only ones who give AWD like it or not, someone might not want to pay the extra in gas cuz of AWD or they live in a place where its useless and not buy one. like for example I would never do an RL cuz the Nav is standard, I would hate having a nav screen in my face. its something I wouldn't use and don't need but I wouldn't mind having an RL otherwise.
07-26-2006, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by whatjones911
Me too. And I also feel that the 07 will look exactly just like that which means not much change at all.
who knows...
07-26-2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
Thats totally my point dude!
I think that for Acura avoid problems for the RL could be to get a new COUPE' 3 doors on the base of the TL, the old CL for example, with 300+ hp, AWD and 3.5 engine.
The TL coupe would look GREAT...
Or create 2 engines for the TL: a standard 3.2 with 270+ hp, FWD, and a more $$ with 3.5 and AWD like the old TYPE-S...
Now it would be the right moment to give the TL a TOP VERSION, the appeal of the fantastic V8 of an RS4 Audi, for example, or a V6 as the old BMW M3 that could get 350 hp...
TL can get too much expensive with the BASE version at 34$ as now, and a top sporty version, sedan or coupe', supercharged...
Even the Lexus IS will get an IS500 with something about 400 hp...
07-26-2006, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bianca TL
Isn't it nearly impossible to incorporate SH-AWD into a car that already exists?
07-26-2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
Now they are talking a TL Type S for 07 300hp and using the 3.5 from the RL but no AWD its listed in next months Motor Trend page 76 
07-26-2006, 03:55 PM
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Please educate me if I am way off but, why doesnt someone jsut jack up their car to see if there is an existing tunnel in the car that can accomidate a drive shaft? SH-AWD needs some kind of shaft right?
This is the RL's
This is the RL's
07-26-2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by evolved326
Please educate me if I am way off but, why doesnt someone jsut jack up their car to see if there is an existing tunnel in the car that can accomidate a drive shaft? SH-AWD needs some kind of shaft right?
This is the RL's
This is the RL's
It can be done. I'm yet to see a member of Acurazine with the time, resources, or technical ability to review the parts and service manuals enough to get it done.
There's a shop out in Cali that does the 4motion conversion for VW's... conceptually the same. You want a 3.5 L and AWD... buy an RL.
07-26-2006, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by shotcaller88
when you say next month's motor trend, do you mean August or September? I'm looking at August here & am starin at a vw r32 on page 76.
07-26-2006, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bianca TL
Isn't it nearly impossible to incorporate SH-AWD into a car that already exists?
07-26-2006, 04:20 PM
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It cost too much $ to put in the SH-AWD system in the current platform. Is likely to come out with a new platform or on the current modified RL platform. The '07 TL will not, I repeat "NOT" come with an AWD system. You can wish but don't get your hope's up. The TL will give its competition its run for its money in tech, style and comfort, but not in performance until they change their drive train.
07-26-2006, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AltecBX
It cost too much $ to put in the SH-AWD system in the current platform. Is likely to come out with a new platform or on the current modified RL platform. ‘) & TL will not, I repeat "NOT" come with an AWD system. You can wish but don't get your hope's up. The TL will give its competition its run for its money in tech and comfort, but not in performance until they change their drive train.
07-26-2006, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by shotcaller88
when you say next month's motor trend, do you mean August or September? I'm looking at August here & am starin at a vw r32 on page 76.
07-26-2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
You'd have to replace the entire floor pan in the TL with that from an RL... Basicallt replace from the body up with an RL lower AWD suspension and drivetrain
It can be done. I'm yet to see a member of Acurazine with the time, resources, or technical ability to review the parts and service manuals enough to get it done.
There's a shop out in Cali that does the 4motion conversion for VW's... conceptually the same. You want a 3.5 L and AWD... buy an RL.
It can be done. I'm yet to see a member of Acurazine with the time, resources, or technical ability to review the parts and service manuals enough to get it done.
There's a shop out in Cali that does the 4motion conversion for VW's... conceptually the same. You want a 3.5 L and AWD... buy an RL.
Sorry. What I meant was for the people asking about the 2007 AWD, see if the 06 has a tunnel. If it does not, dont dream of the 07 having it because they will not redo the chassis just for another model year or 2.
07-26-2006, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by invincible569
Are they talking about the 07 TL???
"Acura launched a new, more spacious TL"
Source: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...StarSource=RSS
"Acura launched a new, more spacious TL"
Source: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...StarSource=RSS
07-26-2006, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by evolved326
Sorry. What I meant was for the people asking about the 2007 AWD, see if the 06 has a tunnel. If it does not, dont dream of the 07 having it because they will not redo the chassis just for another model year or 2.
07-26-2006, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
On what? are you pregnant?
acura announced the 06 model changes on August 1st last year....August 1st is next tuesday, i'm betting that history repeats itself...but i'm not making any wagers on it.
07-26-2006, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by brian92873
LOL no no...
acura announced the 06 model changes on August 1st last year....August 1st is next tuesday, i'm betting that history repeats itself...but i'm not making any wagers on it.
acura announced the 06 model changes on August 1st last year....August 1st is next tuesday, i'm betting that history repeats itself...but i'm not making any wagers on it.
07-26-2006, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by brian92873
LOL no no...
acura announced the 06 model changes on August 1st last year....August 1st is next tuesday, i'm betting that history repeats itself...but i'm not making any wagers on it.
acura announced the 06 model changes on August 1st last year....August 1st is next tuesday, i'm betting that history repeats itself...but i'm not making any wagers on it.
07-26-2006, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
No all nissans are ugly, they look cheap
and my opinion is that you dont have taste.
350z dead sexy
altima great looking car
nissan pathfinder/armada - both look pretty good
etc.
but this is off topic. we can battle this out later, haha.
07-26-2006, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Drunkenmunky23
thats ur opinion
and my opinion is that you dont have taste.
350z dead sexy
altima great looking car
nissan pathfinder/armada - both look pretty good
etc.
but this is off topic. we can battle this out later, haha.
and my opinion is that you dont have taste.
350z dead sexy
altima great looking car
nissan pathfinder/armada - both look pretty good
etc.
but this is off topic. we can battle this out later, haha.
07-26-2006, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Acuraboy7
Its the new car preview it might be for September i just got in a few days ago, i will look when I get home from work tonight, I have it there.
