A-122: DIY - 105k Service: Timing Belt, Water Pump, Spark Plugs, Thermostat *PICS*
#1801
Thanks for the info rockstar.
I tried going at it this morning but i cant get passed the damn crank pulley bolt I keep breaking my damn socket extensions. I got an sk one from amazon and a husky one. What brad of socket extensions are you people using?
I tried going at it this morning but i cant get passed the damn crank pulley bolt I keep breaking my damn socket extensions. I got an sk one from amazon and a husky one. What brad of socket extensions are you people using?
#1802
Are you using impact extensions? If not, you are wasting your time. You also don't want to stack extensions, get one long one.
Last edited by blueracer17; 12-26-2015 at 10:30 PM.
#1803
Race Director
No sir, the front didn't budge, I literally used the ratchet on the rear cam to just barely move it forward enough to get the VERY tight belt lined up...then rotated it back and it sat perfectly and put the slack in the right areas. Once tensioner pin pulled I manually rotated the engine a few times to ensure all the marks lined up and my sharpee belt marks lined up!
If the rear cam happens to spin 1/8 of a turn before you get the belt on, just use a socket wrench to bring it back to tdc and then put the belt on.
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Last edited by nfnsquared; 12-26-2015 at 10:41 PM.
#1804
Try heating heat the bolt with a torch (bolt only, not the pulley) . It would be better to use a 3/4 drive breaker bar extensions, and socket. Better yet borrow or rent one of those high torque milwaukee cordless impact wrenches or that IR7150 mentioned above to loosen it,
Last edited by rkpatt; 12-27-2015 at 04:57 AM.
#1805
Try heating heat the bolt with a torch (bolt only, not the pulley) . It would be better to use a 3/4 drive breaker bar extensions, and socket. Better yet borrow or rent one of those high torque milwaukee cordless impact wrenches or that IR7150 mentioned above to loosen it,
and this
Will get the bolt off.
#1806
The SK extension was a impact extension, the problem was that it was a 24 inch 1/2 inch to a 3/8 end. When I ordered the extension I didn't pay attention to that. I tried SK extension the 3/8 broke off, then I tried regular extensions and broke them.
When using a high torque impact you don't need the crank pulley hex tool to hold the crank pulley?
When using a high torque impact you don't need the crank pulley hex tool to hold the crank pulley?
#1807
Race Director
#1809
what I have learned: few tips
First of all, thank you @majofo. Good write up.
I used your write up as a main reference.
Plus all relevant pages printed out from Acura factory manual.
Plus I found this video really good:
Nothing to complain, seriously. I spent yesterday about 4.5 hours (mainly trying to remove a stuck bolt on the strut bar plus an hour today to get it finally removed - it was supposed to be tightened to 16lb/ft !).
Today I spent almost 15 hours. Haven't started the car yet, leaving it for tomorrow morning.
Tip #1. Remove power steering pump to make more room.
Tip #2. From the video above: mark your old timing belt with a liquid paper correction pen then transfer marks to the new belt. It will give you great confidence you are not screwing it up.
Tip #3. To replace thermostat I only remove the battery. The back screw on housing is PITA but doable.
I'll post tomorrow if the car runs
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I used your write up as a main reference.
Plus all relevant pages printed out from Acura factory manual.
Plus I found this video really good:
Nothing to complain, seriously. I spent yesterday about 4.5 hours (mainly trying to remove a stuck bolt on the strut bar plus an hour today to get it finally removed - it was supposed to be tightened to 16lb/ft !).
Today I spent almost 15 hours. Haven't started the car yet, leaving it for tomorrow morning.
Tip #1. Remove power steering pump to make more room.
Tip #2. From the video above: mark your old timing belt with a liquid paper correction pen then transfer marks to the new belt. It will give you great confidence you are not screwing it up.
Tip #3. To replace thermostat I only remove the battery. The back screw on housing is PITA but doable.
I'll post tomorrow if the car runs
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#1810
what is the lowest amount of torque that can be used as for as a impact wrench goes to take of the crank pulley bolt?
I am looking at the one by DeWalt at a quarter of the cost.
Last edited by 2Quik; 12-28-2015 at 02:27 PM.
#1811
Burning Brakes
DAMN battery powered!
what is the lowest amount of torque that can be used as for as a impact wrench goes to take of the crank pulley bolt?
I am looking at the one by DeWalt at a quarter of the cost.
Amazon.com: DEWALT Bare-Tool DC820B 1/2-Inch 18-Volt Cordless Impact Wrench (Tool Only, No Battery): Home Improvement
what is the lowest amount of torque that can be used as for as a impact wrench goes to take of the crank pulley bolt?
I am looking at the one by DeWalt at a quarter of the cost.
Amazon.com: DEWALT Bare-Tool DC820B 1/2-Inch 18-Volt Cordless Impact Wrench (Tool Only, No Battery): Home Improvement
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#1812
I saw the bump start method but was scared to try and break my axle or control arm. I'll have to get a quality ratchet and maybe try it next time. i don't know that the breaker bar can be put in such a way that it's really close to the axle.
#1813
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Thread Starter
... the bolt will snap before the axle / control arm.
#1814
Burning Brakes
if you break that bolt your going to have bad day(s).
#1815
#1816
Race Director
#1817
Race Director
On the other hand, Bundy just released a video using the Snap On 18V gun with only 600 ft-lbs of torque and it wouldn't pop the crank bolt with a homemade Lisle type socket, but it would (barely) with the real Lisle socket:
Last edited by nfnsquared; 12-28-2015 at 11:24 PM.
#1819
Race Director
IR W7150 plus 2 batteries and case for $380 shipped
^^^That's a great price for the 2 battery kit!!!
^^^That's a great price for the 2 battery kit!!!
#1821
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Thread Starter
Nfn's IR is the Cadillac of impact guns, CTS-V if you will.
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#1822
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Thread Starter
#1823
Got my timing belt change done, hardest part was removing the damn crank pulley bolt, after that it was pretty self explanatory by read instructions. Thank you to all of you for taking time to provide input.
I must say, car feels alot smoother at idle but all around feels better. is it just me or is it normal for a car to feel smoother aft TB change?
I must say, car feels alot smoother at idle but all around feels better. is it just me or is it normal for a car to feel smoother aft TB change?
#1824
Race Director
Got my timing belt change done, hardest part was removing the damn crank pulley bolt, after that it was pretty self explanatory by read instructions. Thank you to all of you for taking time to provide input.
I must say, car feels alot smoother at idle but all around feels better. is it just me or is it normal for a car to feel smoother aft TB change?
I must say, car feels alot smoother at idle but all around feels better. is it just me or is it normal for a car to feel smoother aft TB change?
#1826
I didn't adjust the car valves, but I noticed a difference. Runs and feels great.
How long did it take you guy to do your timing belt(belt pulley, auto tensioner water pump and thermostat)?
If it wasn't for the crank pulley belt I thing it would taking me 2:30-3:00 hrs. This was my first timing belt replacement.
How long did it take you guy to do your timing belt(belt pulley, auto tensioner water pump and thermostat)?
If it wasn't for the crank pulley belt I thing it would taking me 2:30-3:00 hrs. This was my first timing belt replacement.
#1828
Team Owner
#1829
Team Owner
The placebo effect is strong with this one.
#1830
Burning Brakes
Got my timing belt change done, hardest part was removing the damn crank pulley bolt, after that it was pretty self explanatory by read instructions. Thank you to all of you for taking time to provide input.
I must say, car feels alot smoother at idle but all around feels better. is it just me or is it normal for a car to feel smoother aft TB change?
I must say, car feels alot smoother at idle but all around feels better. is it just me or is it normal for a car to feel smoother aft TB change?
I didn't adjust the car valves, but I noticed a difference. Runs and feels great.
How long did it take you guy to do your timing belt(belt pulley, auto tensioner water pump and thermostat)?
If it wasn't for the crank pulley belt I thing it would taking me 2:30-3:00 hrs. This was my first timing belt replacement.
How long did it take you guy to do your timing belt(belt pulley, auto tensioner water pump and thermostat)?
If it wasn't for the crank pulley belt I thing it would taking me 2:30-3:00 hrs. This was my first timing belt replacement.
I should adjust my valves, I have all the gaskets and tools to do it, but my valve-train wasn't and isn't noisy so I haven't bother with it.
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#1831
Team Owner
If you had a "floppy old timing belt", your car wouldn't run rough. It wouldn't run at all. The placebo effect is strong with you as well.
#1833
Burning Brakes
lol I just saw the responses from Tacobello and Justin
I don't think the timing belt alone will make a noticeable difference. The other items will make a difference depending on the out-going condition of the other 105k service items.
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#1834
Burning Brakes
Timing belt auto-tensioner
Timing belt Tensioner pulley
Idler pulley
Serpentine Belt
Water pump
Spark plugs
Ouch you paid your tuition in full for the school of hard knocks.
#1835
Team Owner
Wrong choice of words lol it's got an auto-tensioner after all, looking at the timing belt alone, no it wouldn't make a difference. However, looking at the other items serviced could you say it's a placebo effect?
Timing belt auto-tensioner
Timing belt Tensioner pulley
Idler pulley
Serpentine Belt
Water pump
Spark plugs
Timing belt auto-tensioner
Timing belt Tensioner pulley
Idler pulley
Serpentine Belt
Water pump
Spark plugs
No
No (unless warped, why would you even replace the pulley?)
No (same as above)
No
Probably not
Potentially yes
#1836
Burning Brakes
It's how I roll, it is part of the timing belt system and for $134.54 USD for the two it seems reasonable to me to replace it. Plus they are sealed bearings, I would hate to not do it and have one of them call it quits and eat the timing belt. Valves meet piston, piston meet valves.
#1837
Team Owner
Fair enough, but you should also consider the statistics of something like that happening. I've never heard of someone having a pulley seize on them and some guys have well over 250k miles in their cars.
#1839
I aslo did change the drive belt auto tensioner. I notice a difference. I am with you rockstar, each car is different.
Can't take comments seriously from a person that has an avatar of a gorilla eating a tcao, what the.... Right bro... Ha ha
Can't take comments seriously from a person that has an avatar of a gorilla eating a tcao, what the.... Right bro... Ha ha
#1840