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Old 05-24-2014, 12:13 PM
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^ might try the starter method right away- turning the CP to line up and lets see how it goes with that bolt
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
It won't

What is your "Plan B"?
No plan B Right now
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Definitely keep cold ones in the fridge..
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Wow- the CP bolt is a no joke- it took us 2 hrs and that bolt was not moving- finally the blip method worked. The rear TB cover bolts were pain too. Everything is out and tomorrow we start putting the new parts in. Everything seems to be fine- pulleys, belt and water pump, the TB Auto tensioner was leaking though. Took some pics too- will post them soon.

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what do u guys think of the side engine mount?
Good- no good


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Btw, what do you guys use to upload pics on here- i was using imageshack but now gives me only 30days and then asks me to upgrade
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You need to pry the cover back. From the looks of it though (cracked cover), I'd say it's due.. I just bumped my side engine mount thread.

Here's the pic:

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Just did the 105k service: plus the additional common sense changes....

the cp bolt did not want to come off.

had to put a chain ratchet to the crank pulley gear and use a long 1/2 and it took two men pushing and pulling on the chain ratchet and the ratchet with a socket going in opposite directions...
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
what do u guys think of the side engine mount?
Good- no good

looks dirty but doesn look cracked... move the boot and take a look at the meat of it... also does it have a lot of play??
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Originally Posted by Majofo
You need to pry the cover back. From the looks of it though (cracked cover), I'd say it's due.. I just bumped my side engine mount thread.
So the cover can be removed- didnt know that- will check it and see how it is

Btw, no play - at least not as much
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
So the cover can be removed- didnt know that- will check it and see how it is

Btw, no play - at least not as much
no play (very little) - means your motor mount is good. Lift the boot and look for cracks - if theres no cracks/tears then your motor mount is DEFINITELY fine
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^yeah- removed the boot and there r 2 hair line cracks
The problem is- I was being cheap - didn't buy new mount since the car has only 60K miles and now the Acura/Honda parts dept is not open till Tues I guess cuz of the holiday
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easy way to tell regarding the side mount: if there's a crack in the cover, it's probably busted. Usually from the mount bracket resting on it and slicing it open.

glad the starter method worked haha. took me like 45 min of bending extensions with a long cheater bar to resort to the blip method.
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Originally Posted by BC2G
Just did the 105k service: plus the additional common sense changes....

the cp bolt did not want to come off.

had to put a chain ratchet to the crank pulley gear and use a long 1/2 and it took two men pushing and pulling on the chain ratchet and the ratchet with a socket going in opposite directions...
You used a chain ratchet on the crank pulley!?!?!?! Why? Besides the potential damage and extra manpower required, the factory crank holder tool is cheap to buy and free to rent.
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You used a chain ratchet on the crank pulley!?!?!?! Why? Besides the potential damage and extra manpower required, the factory crank holder tool is cheap to buy and free to rent.
Yeah- the crank holder tool is free to rent from O'reilly but to be honest- when using the blip method- that crank holder toll is not needed
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Yep, the crank holder tool if used while blipping the starter would probably result in a broken crankshaft or if you're lucky a broken tool or pulley.

The starter method should still be used as a last resort. While most get away with it, there are severe consequences when things go wrong like a broken crankshaft snout.
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
^yeah- removed the boot and there r 2 hair line cracks
The problem is- I was being cheap - didn't buy new mount since the car has only 60K miles and now the Acura/Honda parts dept is not open till Tues I guess cuz of the holiday
I went to O'Reilleys for my mount since it came off in two pieces. Just like the blower motor relay I got from there for the Nissan, this was an OEM part in Honda packaging for half the cost. It was a great accidental find. Even if it isn't OEM, I wouldn't worry about it for the side mount. I would want the front and rear to be OEM though.
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The rear cam was a little off- behind from TDC and moved it forward to TDC and jumped forward 1/8 of a turn or 45degrees and heard click sound- hope no damage occurred

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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
The rear cam was a little off- behind from TDC and moved it forward to TDC and jumped forward 1/8 of a turn or 45degrees and heard click sound- hope no damage occurred
Dude, I guess you didn't read through this thread? Asked and answered multiple times. You're fine. Rear cam has a sweet spot. Move it either side of the sweet spot and the valve springs are going to spin it 1/8 turn one way or the other.
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Yep, mine did this at least 3 times. Valve spring pressure is not enough to bend a valve so you're fine.
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Cool- thanks- I knew about jumping back but not front- that's why I got worried
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Originally Posted by BC2G
Just did the 105k service: plus the additional common sense changes....

the cp bolt did not want to come off.

had to put a chain ratchet to the crank pulley gear and use a long 1/2 and it took two men pushing and pulling on the chain ratchet and the ratchet with a socket going in opposite directions...
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Just wanted to report that I've seen a mpg improvement since my 105K and valve adjustment.
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Probably because you drive the TL like a grandma now that you have the S2k
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Does anyone know the torque speck of the drive belt tensioner 2 bolts- the 12mm bolt and the 14mm bolts?
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
Does anyone know the torque speck of the drive belt tensioner 2 bolts- the 12mm bolt and the 14mm bolts?
16 and 33
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ah, you beat me. NFN is right.

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Thanks guys- tomorrow is the finishing day
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
Thanks guys- tomorrow is the finishing day
Finishing day or maybe exploding day
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
16 and 33
To add to that I think it's 13 and 30 with anti seize. 14.5 and 30.5 with oil and 18 and 37.5 with spit depending on consistency.
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Teh fuck

Please don't do what BC2G suggested.
Thats how u check for a broken motor mount... Taught to me by a licensed master tech
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
Thanks guys- tomorrow is the finishing day
Good luck. I'm a little paranoid but once the belt was on I put the crank pulley on, checked the marks, and spun the engine a full revolution and rechecked the marks. I even started the engine with just the bare timing belt to make sure everything looked and sounded ok.
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^thanks- we also thought about cranking the engine after the TB was on but we got a second thought because the side engine mount was not there yet and the hydraulic jack was under the oil pan to support the engine. We rechecked the timing three times just to make sure they all are at TDC
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2 oh shit moments:

1) when I used a screwdriver with leverage to pull the pin...seemed much too much like a grenade and I knew I couldn't go back.
2) when I turned key on for first time and listened for noise and was greeted with a VSA and CEL because I forgot the big plug on the throttle body


You did swap that little inner bearing spacer thing over onto the new tensioner pulley, right?!! So it would clear the water pump?

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^ ummm #2- I know I swapped the inner bearing on the tensioner pulley so the long bolt fits properly but the idler pulley?
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Huh?

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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
^ ummm #2- I know I swapped the inner bearing on the tensioner pulley so the long bolt fits properly but the idler pulley?
Huh? I'm not understanding what you are asking...

Edit: NVM, no, I don't remember any spacer for the idler pulley.

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