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Old 05-17-2014, 11:12 AM
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I guess in hindsight I should have gone OEM on that. The gates one seemed less substantial than what was in there although I've had no issues with it. I also think it was a couple degrees less...
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Gates is fine. In many cases they are the OEM.
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Do you guys think the side engine mount will be shot- I know now it is a good time to change it but the car has only 60K miles- I don't know if one can tell if that engine mount is shot just by driving and not literally checking it for damage
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I know when mine was busted it was easy to see it...if you lift the boot on it, you'll easily see it, it's only a few bolts holding it in.
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^ got it. Will try to peak at it to see before I go buy the coolant and the thermostat from the stealership
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Tomorrow is the the day- quick question- I was going over the DIY and I got the gates kit from a member on here and the water pump that it came with has china written on it. Is the gates water pump made in china? I will post a pic of it tonight
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I can't remember but I posted a picture of mine a few pages back too...double check but I think it might have been. Also have had zero issues with it thus far.
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
Tomorrow is the the day- quick question- I was going over the DIY and I got the gates kit from a member on here and the water pump that it came with has china written on it. Is the gates water pump made in china? I will post a pic of it tonight
I have 55K on the Gates water pump, no issues. There are plenty of Azine members who have used the Gates kit/water pump and I've heard of zero issues. I wouldn't worry about it in the least.
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China..
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Biggest complaint about the non oem water pump is that there is one that doesn't have the channel to securely hold the gasket in place, IIRC. The gates one does!
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China makes Kia, doesn't it? So there's that going for it
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Hmmm- I will look for WP pics and compare it to what I got. Hope mine is the Gates water pump and not some other made up China sh!t lol
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I wouldn't run any critical component that's made in China unless there's no other choice. Been there, done that, got burned several times, won't do it again.
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^ yeah- I am worried too- haven't been burned but I am not surprised when it comes to parts made in China
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Hmmm...this latest review on amazon has me second guessing my decision.
Amazon.com: Gates TCKWP329 Engine Timing Belt Kit with Water Pump: Automotive Amazon.com: Gates TCKWP329 Engine Timing Belt Kit with Water Pump: Automotive
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
I can't remember but I posted a picture of mine a few pages back too...double check but I think it might have been. Also have had zero issues with it thus far.
I found ur pic of the WP and I am not sure if the WP I have has the 5957 stamp and on yours I don't see any where China- hmmm- I gotta check it when I get home tonight

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What post was it please? I went into my photobucket and couldn't find it. I know I showed Majofo and he was like, STFU yours is fine but the review on amazon has me doubting it.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
China makes Kia, doesn't it? So there's that going for it
Koreans doofus.
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Korean doofus? Is that another Pho platter?
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
What post was it please? I went into my photobucket and couldn't find it. I know I showed Majofo and he was like, STFU yours is fine but the review on amazon has me doubting it.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
You dolt J, that's a Gates pump.. see the 5957 stamp. You'll be fine, just don't bump the o-ring out of the track.
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read that fargin review on amazon though...fkr got me thinking again
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^ I read it too- I don't know what to think as of right now. There are many ppl on here running gates WP and no problems as of yet I think lol
I can't wait to get home today and see if my WP has the 5957 stamp of approval
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Originally Posted by rockstar143

read that fargin review on amazon though...fkr got me thinking again
He probably didn't ensure the track of the o-ring was aligned, or used shitty coolant after install.
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I trust in Majofo. Hence, I used it.
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2 bad reviews out of 65? Meh. The one dude can't even use proper grammar or spelling, so rule that moron's review out. The other dude had leaks. Probably because he fucked up the gasket when installing it.

I don't remember the stamping on my Gates pump, but it definitely didn't have China on it (not that I'd really care). And Honda/Acura isn't using Aisin water pumps any more. I forget who they switched to.
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
Do you guys think the side engine mount will be shot- I know now it is a good time to change it but the car has only 60K miles- I don't know if one can tell if that engine mount is shot just by driving and not literally checking it for damage
-put the e brake on
-have someone view the side mount from the outside of the car
-put the car in drive
-put your foot on brake strong
***BE CAREFUL***
-accelerate just so... to the point where the engine shifts slightly...
-look for play/cracking on side mount
-Alternate between reverse and drive and do this method

IF ITS BROKEN IT WILL BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR
**PLEASE BE CAREFUL**
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Just checked the WP i have- it does have the 5957 stamp
That is a bit of a relieve i guess
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
Just checked the WP i have- it does have the 5957 stamp
That is a bit of a relieve i guess
See, you're getting worked up over nothing when instead you should be doing your pre-TB service Yoga exercises
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
See, you're getting worked up over nothing when instead you should be doing your pre-TB service Yoga exercises
the pre-TB started lol- got the car on stands, sprayed the CP bolt with PB blaster and I and the TB will be tomorrow

Btw, I am getting a bit ahead of myself but what is the re-learning process again when ready to test drive it

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Teh fuck

Please don't do what BC2G suggested.
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
See, you're getting worked up over nothing when instead you should be doing your pre-TB service Yoga exercises
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
See, you're getting worked up over nothing when instead you should be doing your pre-TB service Yoga exercises
Lmao...you ain't kidding either
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...Btw, I am getting a bit ahead of myself but what is the re-learning process again when ready to test drive it
If you mean the CKP pattern learn procedure, it can't be done without an HDS. I don't know of any of us DIYers who did it and there have been no problems not doing it.
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
the pre-TB started lol- got the car on stands, sprayed the CP bolt with PB blaster and I and the TB will be tomorrow

Btw, I am getting a bit ahead of myself but what is the re-learning process again when ready to test drive it
Drive the car.

It seems to speed up the process if you let it sit there and find idle. Then rev it and let off quickly so it has to find idle after snapping the throttle closed. Put it in drive , let it find idle, then back in park. Put it in drive again and with the brake on, blip the throttle easy and quickly. Turn the AC on with it in gear and out of gear. Do each step a few times until it seems to get it.

All of this is learned normally and naturally from driving and these steps aren't necessary unless you want to speed up the process. This is my way that I came up with, the manual probably has something different if it has anything at all. All it's doing is putting the ECU through different idling scenarios that it would encounter on the street but you're doing them all at once and several times in a row. If you really need to get it perfect quickly, do it while the engine is cold and again when it's hot but that's REALLY not necessary. If you can think of any other idle scenario I didn't mention, it would probably be a good idea. This still won't get you a perfect idle right away but it will be close.

Good luck with the install. Have a heating pad and some pain killers/alcohol ready for the day after.
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To add, the dealer probably does their relearn procedure because many customers would bring the cars back before they got home if they were hunting for idle and almost stalling.
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Based on the SM procedure, I get the impression that the ECU/PCM will not initiate a CKP pattern learn without first being reset and a reset can only be done via the HDS...
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Hope that stubborn CP bolt gives up on the first try
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Hope that stubborn CP bolt gives up on the first try
It won't

What is your "Plan B"?
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Starter method. Works as the last resort.


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