BC2G

LOL busted!

Yea i realized you absolutely do mention the hex tool, and i read that while doing the job but it didnt register... it would have made the job that much easier but oh well, it did work and i am grateful for your write up

tihomirbg

iTrader: (1)

That CP holder tool sucks- it's too loose when inside the CP and the teeth of the CP seem to be weak

nfnsquared

That's why next time I do this, I'll have the IR W7150 by my side :biggirn:

tihomirbg

iTrader: (1)

^that will definitely help- maybe u let me rent it from u

Majofo

Worked fine for me, seemed to be snug

You bought it.. that's awesome.

nfnsquared

No, not yet. Still at least 2 years away, but sometime between now and then I'll jump on one of Zoro's 30% off sales for that.

This time around, I used the 30%off to buy one of these, couldn't afford to do both:

http://www.zoro.com/i/G4995636/?category=6511

When the time comes again, I could just drive up the the base and use one of their 3/4" guns to pop it loose, but what fun would that be?

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

BFG

Nickdees

this thread is pure gold, my 7g accord is coming up on 100k and i wanted to save so $ by doing some stuff myself, this should be made into PDF also so we never lose the pics!

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

This thread will live on long past us...we'll all be dead (except Majofo) and this will be going strong.

Nickdees

haha well i hope so, over on v6p seems like our pics always go MIA and its on something I need

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Trust me, not all forums are created equally. In addition, this one has been put in the 3G garage. It ain't going anywhere.

Majofo

Majofo

+130k views.. (+100k views by J)

Glad it's helping others. We probably could add some other helpful info in the OP.

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

I say, make them go through the entire thread like I did.






100K times

BC2G

I was using a professional grade impact wrench hooked up to a compressor and i still fought with that cp bolt

nfnsquared

"Professional grade" what? And "professional grade" means nothing if not connected via proper diameter hose to a an appropriate grade compressor...

BC2G

whoa whoa whoa

i dont know the brand name or compressor dimensions and specifications

it belongs to a licensed mechanic... what else can i say, shall i follow up with you when i have the information?

are you implying the torque may have been insufficient as a result of mismatched gun and compressor?
are you saying the CP Bolt isn't a biotch to get off?
Im not following....

Excuse my ignorance i'm not a professional mechanic, I am a DIY'r thats why i come to the forum,.. dont get all elitest on me now bro-skie .... fortunately though I have the resource of a friend who is a pro...

nfnsquared

Yes, and my post was meant to be informative, not accusatory....

BC2G

word. well its a valid point, one I hadnt considered but I wasnt questioning my friends capabilities as he hasn't led me astray yet in the work he does and that i help and learn from....

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

To further NFN's point...

The guy at work comes out with this little IR gun...I'm thinking, no effing way will that work...he had the CP bolt off in about 5 seconds with it. He told me it's his personal gun and paired with the fixed monstrous compressor and 1/2" lines run in the garage for him to work on the bucket trucks...it had a ridiculous amount of torque.

When I did my TB service, I used my harbor freight "earthquake" 650 ft/lb double hammer gun and a leaky 3/8" line on my 10 year old Husky 30 gallon (IIRC) compressor and it took a solid 30 seconds of hitting it on full torque to take the same bolt off, and keep in mind...we only torqued to 60 ft/lb and the 60 degrees more due to the aluminum racing pulley I have on there.

tihomirbg

iTrader: (1)

My friends that helped me with the install and i were talking about brake in period since these are important parts- TB, WP, pulleys and tensioner. We were thinking maybe for 500mi no more than 2.5-3K rpm.

nfnsquared

Never heard of that. Drive it like you stole it

Majofo

There's no break-in for a belt. Just drive it.

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

my Dad says his belt wasn't broken in on my bottom till i was about 13 or 14

pohljm

Getting close to having the mileage for the TB service completed. Asked my mechanic about his labor charge and he said $350. May just get er done now. Seems like the gates kit is a real deal now compared to the Aisin package. My question has to do with the crankshaft seal. Do you need the kit with the seal as well as several other gaskets/ o ring thingys? Or just the seal itself? Not sure where the others go? Oil pump?

BC2G

You will need the oil filter housing gasket

in order to do the install i had to remove the oil filter housing and when you do that you have to change the o ring gasket...

DOnt believe it mentions that in the original DIY

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Was the seal really in need of being changed? I vaguely remember Majofo stating he either changed it and didn't need it, or that it flat out didn't need to be changed.

BC2G

the original one looked fine however

for the cost $20 or less its worth it to change it.... the original one looked ok but its recommended to be changed

nfnsquared

Where? By whom?

IMO, unless it's leaking, it's overkill. I didn't replace mine and have no issues at 163K....

94eg!

Completely overkill. I have an 89 CRX Si at 226k miles, as well as a JDM Type-R motor with who knows how many miles. Both are still on their original front & rear main seals. Type-R is on it's original cam seals too (front & rear) Bottom of these motors are dry as a bone. No need to mess with them if they aren't leaking. You are wasting time & money.

The reason shops recommend this is because they want to milk you for more money "while they are in there".

tihomirbg

iTrader: (1)

Yeah- i say if its not leaking dont change- mine were fine- no leaks- so i was like why fix something when its not broken

pohljm

Does everyone believe that the water pump with the Gates kit is equal to the pump in the Aisin kit? I am leery of the low cost of the Gates kit and would prefer to use a better quality pump. $128 vs $192

nfnsquared

Working fine for me, 57K miles so far. And remember, Aisin isn't OEM anymore...

I hate cars

Do we know if the Gates kit uses a Gates pump? If it's an actual Gates pump I would be ok with it. If not, it's not worth the risk when the risk is best case having to practically redo the timing belt job and worst case is bent valves. I didn't want to pay $100 for an OEM pump but it's well worth it for the peace of mind. Saving $60 can cost you $3K in the end.

ez12a

there are no gates markings on the pump. The label on my gates kit said it was sourced from China.

haven't had any problems for around 12k miles.

pohljm

Some of the reviews on the gates kits call out the seemingly poor quality of the pump. Pump is not identified as a gates pump. You get a gates belt. I guess I will pay the extra $65 for insurance purposes! Aisin kit reviews have no issues with the pump quality.

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

If I were doing it all over again, I'd go Aisin...but I haven't had any issues thus far. I've driven at least 12 miles and I'm a Doctor, so you know you can trust me.

tihomirbg

iTrader: (1)

The WP in the gates kit was my concern too. The latest review on Amazon about the gates kit had me worried but when I was installing the WP- I mead sure 100% that the seal is on its place and then tour hue it to 9ft.lbs instead of 8.7ft.lbs- not much of a difference but still wanted to make sure it seals perfect.

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Majofo said it would be fine. I believe him.

Majofo

Yeah, it's a gates pump. I was super concerned when acuratech thought it was Chinese pump.

60k miles and going strong. Only tricky part is making sure the seal doesn't bump off the track.