Hello,

After having numerous issues with my 2019 Acura RDX, I decided to get rid of it. I’ve had about every tsb performed, but the infotainment system has been checked several times with the tsb applied and yet still have issues where I get popping sound from speakers, a blank black screen, etc.

I bought a 2022 MDX Advance a couple of months ago and it has none of the issues the rdx had. That SUV is enjoyable to drive and will be keeping that long term.

I’ve decided to trade the RDX in for another car. I’ve decided to get an EV now as gas prices keep going through the roof. Hello Mach E GT! Will be a completely different, enjoyable, and much quicker.

 

i would have considered the mach E, but Ford has trash power delivery. You get 5-6 seconds before you're nerfed due to battery cooling constraints. Falls on its face 100%. That's how a mid 3 second 0-60 car traps under 100mph... Otherwise, I'd absolutely have one right now.

 

I expect it to get better after some software updates, but honestly, I'm not looking to track the car, or trying to go past 80mph, so needing continued power after 5 seconds when it goes from 0-60 in 3.8 seconds which seems unnecessary to me. It's going to be my daily driver. Most of the time, I'll just need the short burst of acceleration.

Either way, it'll be a completely different car compared to RDX, and at least it wouldn't have the continued infotainment issue that I constantly face with the RDX. I keep getting shutdown reason errors which show ICU critical unlocks even after the FAKRA replacement (which was done twice already.)

 

Congratulations. The GT version is a awesome vehicle and a sweet EV. Acura needs a super hybrid and EV options soon. I miss the gas prices of 2 years ago, oh how I cringe when filling up the tank these days.

 

Nothing about Ford impressed me when I worked at a Ford dealer, nor do any of my friend's Ford products. I hope yours is a different story.

 

Well, according to multiple reviews, the Mustang Mach E is completely different in terms of how Ford pursued the interior design (everyone claims it's a step above any other Ford they've ever seen.) I wanted something different, as I already own a 2022 Acura MDX Advance, which is admittedly much better in terms of interior design, digital gauge cluster, exterior design, etc compared to the RDX. However, I didn't want both similar styled Acuras in my garage and wanted to step up to EV's because of rising gas prices, $7500 fed tax credit phasing out for some manufacturers this year (including Ford, Toyota, and Lexus) with still decent finance options until federal interest rates hike, etc. I've also hated the RDX and how the infotainment system keeps locking up on me despite multiple attempts in fixing it by the dealer. I've had to get the lower control arms replaced due to suspension creaks, sun sensor replaced with complete battery replacement (it caused mayhem on my auto start stop), panoramic sunroof popping, tailgate groan, middle center console rattling (had to get it replaced as a screw became undone inside,) total rotors/brake replacement twice at the dealer due to squealing issues, infotainment errors, ceiling speaker replacement due to rattles, etc.

The RDX was easily the most problematic car I've ever owned in the 3.5 years I've owned this vehicle.

If anyone is considering to buy an EV, this year would be the time to do it.

 

I understand the incentives for sure. My Prime treated me well, there. I just can't go pure EV yet due to short range, or Id really be about the E as well!

 

Agreed. I think that currently, EVs have their place especially to those who own a garage and commute shorter distances to work and back and can put in a Level 2 charger (Government pays up to $1000 to have that installed as well). I rarely drive more than 200 miles per day, and if that were the case, would be bringing my ICE vehicle along or renting if I were to go on vacation for longer road trips.

 

I have a 22 Advance "in transit" to my dealer. Having owned a 19 Advance FWD, I think I knw the vehicle, except all 22 Advances are SH-AWD. WHY? I have said before that I have absolutely no need for AWD, and this has not changed. Thinking about the fuel economy of the RDX, (even worse with AWD) makes me crazy. I would really like a PHEV, I don't believe that EVs will not work for me. The current new car buying environment is awful, to say the least. I will be paying MSRP for the RDX, the trade in allowance is yet to be determined, and could derail my purchase. In a perfect (car buying) world, I would be able to visit several different brand dealers, see at east two of each model, and be able to pick one, negotiate a fair deal, and drive away in a new car. Oh how I miss the OLD days!

We have owned a couple for Ford Escapes (2104 and 2015 Titanium Trim), that served as better than our 19 RDX, as far as number of dealer visits are concerned, and the 21 Corsair I had was as trouble free s well, until it was totaled. I am considering a 22 Corsair GT (PHEV) but do not want to wait until "end of year" for delivery.

 

If the RDX didn't have AWD, it would be half the car it is with it. The SH-AWD is literally the only reason to buy an RDX. Otherwise plenty of other SUV's fit the bill better.

 

One of our MD's drives a Tesla Model 3 Performance. He got home from work a while back with 12% remaining. When it gets -10*F or so, EV's aren't worth a damn. Yes he commutes a bit, but still... Also, in case of emergencies, you can't get ANYWHERE fast. Gotta charge up, stop, charge, etc. You can't drive 600mi at the drop of a hat to be at a family member's bedside, etc. Oh no mate. Your fancy little car is going to hold you up bigly.

 

I drive a total of 20 miles a day during my commute, and drive at most 60 miles in one day when I have to go grocery shopping weekly. While I'm not using the car, I plan to charge it up with the Level 2 Charger I have at home. I don't think I'll have this issue. Like I said, if I am planning to go on longer trips, I would take my ICE vehicle like the 2022 Acura MDX, or the 2020 Toyota Rav4 I have.

The lowest temps where I live (central PA) will only be around 15 F degrees or so, and that's only for a week of the whole year.

I would imagine most people who commute will not drive more than a total of 80-100 miles a day.

 

That is just BS. It only takes a little longer to charge a high speed ev. Not every day is a huge road trip. My RDX Aspec SHawd averages 16 mpg in the winter - mixed driving. Not a heavy foot. That sucks IMO. Wasn’t so bad when the USA was energy independent and gas below $2 a gallon. Now at $4 and rising - it’s a gas guzzler. Add to changing the oil and diff - real world costs are skyrocketing.

I like to be transparent to other members, as Acura needs to revamp the calibration to fuel to get much better mpg. This ain’t no V8.

 

16 MPG? Wow that's pretty atrocious. That's even lower than my 2022 MDX which I get about 17 mpg and my old Infiniti G37. I'll have to admit, I was very disappointed in the MPG estimates from EPA on the RDX. I don't get anywhere near 21 mpg listed with mixed highway/ and city. I expected around 23 or so, given ratings were 21/27.

 

Mine is real world driving. Did a road trip of 1100 miles and spent the winter on cold temps and snow. Sadly the real world mpg is way below govt rated. It’s a sold vehicle - but given oil prices are rising to ??? - this is not what is advertised. Probably would of considered other SUV with hybrid if I had the truth.

 

Buying a first year model or redesign is a chancy thing to do. Now you've done it again with the MDX.

 

I did, but I have not noticed any issues with MDX whatsoever, with the exception of a blurry HUD which I will bring it into service. Otherwise, everything else has been perfect. The infotainment system is not brand new to the vehicle; the RDX was really the beta test for all of us as it was a completely new redesign of an infotainment system. It's probably the same system as in the new 2022 RDX.

I don't think MDX is really a "first year model/redesign" as it used the same engine as the prior models, and the tranny is basically similar to the RDX. It also borrows the same infotainment system, safety features, and driver assistance tech as the RDX. Honda/Acura probably learned a lot from the RDX and how many issues it had (you can see how many TSB's the 19-20 RDX's had and compare it to the TSB's on the MDX.) There's a stark difference. Acura definitely learned from the RDX.

The only thing that I would say is truly brand new to the MDX, is that double wishbone front suspension and that digital cockpit display, which I have full confidence for Honda/Acura to design it well and not to have any issues in either.

 

I just got mine. On days where its in the 20s, my commute averages 23-24mpg. It takes a real long time to charge an EV without a charging station. If I need to be somewhere, I also may not have 2 hours or whatever to charge it. Its just headache I dont want.

Yes, the RDX does take some running costs over the Mach, that is for sure. That said, I can roadtrip it without logistic issues, I can be sure Ill make it to work and home in the cold without running out of juice, and I am fine with paying in exchange for this.

 

If you only have one car, then yes, I would rather get a hybrid or PHEV due to charging concerns on longer road trips. However, if you have multiple vehicles like I do, then you have best of all worlds by getting an EV with another hybrid/PHEV/ICE car. I'm using my EV for just commuting to and from work and trips that I use less than 200 miles.

 

Congrats @mathnerd88 on your new purchases. I think if I had a two car family I’d probably make a similar choice. The MDX is very appealing as a family hauler and true Mach-E certainly seems to be a great electric option especially for people who don’t like Tesla (like me). Good luck!

 

Yes, congrats mathnerd88, those both seem like great choices. We saw our first MDX a few days ago and it's a nice looking ride and one of our neighbors has a Mach E, also very nice. And Waetherman, like you, I also do not like the Teslas for a variety of reasons, maybe in particular, their 'SUV's' are so odd looking, in my opinion.

 

I am getting 24 mpg mixed hwy/city, I use Exxon Supreme gas.

 

Just wait, because once you get it brand new, it does show pretty high readings. Wait until a couple more weeks/months and it'll settle. When I reset my battery, it showed I had amazing range, and my MPG were 24-25. Once it actually re-calculated to the true MPG's, it settled down to 20.

Maybe I had a crappy build, but my friend who also owns the RDX, got even an worse MPG than I did. My range per fill up is about 280 miles.

 

I just placed an order for an ID.4. I wanted to get in line for something with no dealer markup because I don't see supply chain easing. There was a $10K markup for an ordered Mach-E.

My guess is I'm probably 6 months to a year away from delivery. Local dealer said 6 months but I think I saw something that said their factory in Zwickau has been stalled by the Ukraine issue.

 

Did you have a need for a big car like the MDX or did you just get it for comfort?

 

All depends on your foot, outside air temps, terrain, speed and wind. Over 7k miles, my average is 21mpg - that is with a ton of freeway motoring. In the summer in Texas, I got 17-23mpg, in the winters with freezing temps and snow - 15mpg city and 21mpg hwy. On a 1,100 tips - averaged 22mpg. That is real world and seems in line with most others.

 

My daily commute averages 23-24mpg, and on the freeway doing 75, I average 24-25mpg. This is in 20-30*F weather using 91 octane.

 

Unobtanium - You either have a light foot, live in the flat lands with no wind - that's "Unobtanium" for most RDX owners here with the SHawd.

 

I’ve never experienced MPG decreasing because of “settling”. I think there are factors beyond our control (driving style, where you live, etc) that affect MPG. Time will tell.

 

I almost always exceed rated mpg of vehicles. This, and one other, are the only ones I have not. My cx5 turbo was my best success. 80k miles, lifetime average 27.0mpg. It was rated 27 HIGWAY. I was hoping the RDX would be a similar story, but once the weather warms up we will see. I live in the Ozark mountains and have a heavy foot. I just place it well.

 

Or maybe the left foot is heavy and the right one is light.

 

Maybe, maybe not. I love th solidness of the RDX, just hate the way it gulps Petrol. If I knew she would get drastically lower mpg and gas prices would double in the year after I bought her - would of bought a hybrid or EV. Been averaging 16.1 mpg in the city during the winters with 40% freeway. Super Cold/snowy weather really affects a turbo ice engine.

 

I don't what 'real world' is like, but in poking around the internet today, I was surprised the 2022 350H RX hybrid is supposed to get around 39MPG. Damn, that's about double what I get on my 2019 RDX.

 

More than double what I am getting in the winter, cold temps and heavy snow. If gas was below $2 a gallon, this would make zippo difference, Now at $4gal and rising, it hurts to fill up. What a waste of $$$. Again, love the RDX SHAWD, but never imagined it to get this type of real world mileage with a small four cylinder turbo and a 10 speed transmission. If it had 700 HP, that would be understandable - but it doesn’t.

 

I traded that 80k mile cx5 in with 5 or 6mm left on the pads all around. Would yave easily made it to 120k on stock pads. Ive even had Nissan's GTR techs live datalog my commute. "You really dont use the brakes" was their comment. Brakes are bad except for spirited driving to set up corner entry, and stop lights or things in the road. Dont use em much.

 

lol, my forner roommate's wrx sti is even worse. High teens at best in a 3600# manual 4 banger. Road trips are 19 to 20ish.

 

gas prices wwre bound to double. I advised small cap oil stocks US based with good runway, and flip in 6-12mo. Back in early 21. I did and netted 300% gains. Gas is going to slowly drift and wobble in 22, and then come down some in 23. $3-5/gal isn't bad. We daw way worse in the mid 2000s accounting for inflation.

My rav4 prime averaged 45mpg on my driving and charging schedule. About 50% EV. That said, the awd in Toyota hybrids is total trash. Have fun with that, if you move to an rx450h+. The 350h is just dog ass in EVERY way, at least the 450h+ has good power if you're on perfectly clean pavement and point the wheel straight and have aftermarket tires.

 

As I read these posts about horrible fuel economy, I feel your pain. But for the record, my 3,750 pound FWD RDX has averaged 27.6 mpg and on pure highway trips at 75 mph gets 30-32 mpg. That’s not too much below an Accord Touring, which weighs about 3,450 lbs, has the same engine (regular fuel), same 10A, but better aerodynamics and less drag. I raise this point to lead into a question. Does anyone here believe the SH-AWD system is to blame for the misleading fuel economy rating on your RDXs? I can certainly be wrong on this. I openly admit that. I’m just trying to understand the massive difference in fuel economy between a FWD Accord/RDX and the SH-AWD RDX.

 

The SH-AWD is very involved. I strongly believe this is a factor. That said, it's absolutely worth it to me to have the SH-AWD. No way I would own this car if it did not have that. That said, I am hitting pretty near what I should be per the window sticker.

 

Maybe it's absolutely worth it...if you live in a place where you can use/benefit from it? When we bought the RDX (2019 ASpec AWD) we lived in Reno, about 1000 ft higher than the city so snow was reasonably plentiful. We also added 'winter tires'...the point is, this car was a beast, a goat, a snowmobile on the snow and ice. Now that we live back in Vegas area, I don't know what value I see in having it, or ever wanting AWD again. Maybe I am missing some benefit, but AWD just reduces MPG, adds maintenance costs and so on. Unless I am missing some value it is adding....