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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 05:40 PM
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Utah, you were right, I do have the 6psi can, because looking at logs it seems that boost sits right around 6~7 psi.

Hooray!
So we are boosting at the same level right now. Let's race!
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 06:00 PM
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BTW... Here is the menu where you select where you want your wideband input to come from. It's under closed loop parameters. Unfortunately, it looks like ELD is the the only wire it allows us to select. I'm not sure where ELD is located but you guys get the picture of what we are trying to achieve here.





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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
So we are boosting at the same level right now. Let's race!


The IAT is like 86 f on boost, which is awesome.

As soon as vit gives me the go ahead I'll start incrementing the boost up.

Talking to Utah I think we'll aim for the 10~12 range, whichever is reasonable/reliable/fun.

I am a set it and forget it guy, so I won't be making changes after it's done. unless the motor needs to be built, or the head gets redone with the port or whatever by Axion that is...

I bet it would be a lot of fun to have a side by side on a closed course though.

Also, AF is at like 10.x under boost, as soon as that gets leaned out, and then I'm sure he'll start tinkering with ignition. I believe right now we are tweaking the cam advance, which is much less intricate compared to the one that dime feng offered up. Mine the advance is only modified under boost.

Seems like turbos/SC setup require a different difficulty of tuning than N/A. This is just from an outside point of view however, neither is simpler, just different ways of tuning is all I'm suggesting.

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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 06:08 PM
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The IAT is like 86 f on boost, which is awesome.

As soon as vit gives me the go ahead I'll start incrementing the boost up.

Talking to Utah I think we'll aim for the 10~12 range, whichever is reasonable/reliable/fun.

I am a set it and forget it guy, so I won't be making changes after it's done. unless the motor needs to be built, or the head gets redone with the port or whatever by Axion that is...

I bet it would be a lot of fun to have a side by side on a closed course though.

Also, AF is at like 10.x under boost, as soon as that gets leaned out, and then I'm sure he'll start tinkering with ignition. I believe right now we are tweaking the cam advance, which is much less intricate compared to the one that dime feng offered up. Mine the advance is only modified under boost.

Seems like turbos/SC setup require a different difficulty of tuning than N/A. This is just from an outside point of view however, neither is simpler, just different ways of tuning is all I'm suggesting.
It would be a ton of fun... Completely different animals yet the same. I have SC which should get you on an AutoX course cause Im linear boost and excel at low speeds but you got LSD which is like crucial for high torque and launching. It would be awesome!!!
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 06:35 PM
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on AutoX the supercharged car would win for sure (assuming suspension is identical and no LSD on the turboed car)
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 07:53 PM
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Looks like development at RV6 is coming along:

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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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Very excited to see how that turns out..
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 10:26 PM
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on AutoX the supercharged car would win for sure (assuming suspension is identical and no LSD on the turboed car)
Oh no there is no lag with these turbo setups it is instant power and boost no giant turbos with lag here
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 11:07 PM
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Yeah, like Utah says, as soon as you put your foot in the throttle, it just spools, and you're off. The EFR, I didn't realize at the time what I was really picking up.
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 11:09 PM
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oh really? no lag? I would have expected at least a little. That's awesome.. makes me want it even more lol.
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Old Sep 20, 2014 | 12:29 AM
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I like gingerly taking off in first, then going to second and kind of putting effort into the accelerator, the tires KIND of squeak and then you're just thrown forward.

two notes...

Will need bigger and much better brakes.

Need wider rubber.
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Old Sep 20, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
Oh no there is no lag with these turbo setups it is instant power and boost no giant turbos with lag here
No interest in the Flashpro Wideband setup?
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Old Sep 20, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
No interest in the Flashpro Wideband setup?
For comparison yes, but I really like my AEM wideband failsafe so if my fuel pump cant keep up it will cut the boost back to my low boost 9 PSI spring pressure
I will be using my secondary o2 sensor when emission inspection comes along in April
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 09:23 AM
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I am in same boat as Utah, I need to be able to get my car to go "ready" for all sensors so that I can get tags.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by optimusaccord
I like gingerly taking off in first, then going to second and kind of putting effort into the accelerator, the tires KIND of squeak and then you're just thrown forward.

two notes...

Will need bigger and much better brakes.

Need wider rubber.
Are you still on the stock wheels / tires?
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:56 AM
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Stock rims, Sumitomo tires.

Sleeper style. Probably won't get huge rims ever.

I am looking at like 17 or 18, but 8.5 to 9.5" wide. I want them to fit in the wheel wells, and run 245 to 255 tires.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 12:42 PM
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If you're lowered, do 18x9 with a conservative offset (+45 or something) and you might be able to fit 255s up front. Rears have more play, but with a non-staggered setup your wheels would likely sunken battleship. If you care about "correcting" that appearance, I'd get a staggered setup of lower offset in the rear.

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If you're not lowered, I don't see any problems with 255s other than the possibility of poke, depending on what wheels you get.

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Check benben's thread. He has 245/40/19 up front on 19x8.5 +45 F14s, with a 3mm spacer. Scratch what I first said about the fronts... I don't think you can get 255s up there on 9s unless you roll your front fenders. He also has rear 275s , but with fender work.
https://acurazine.com/forums/photogr...thread-844985/

Maybe you can get 255s up front on a 35 profile tire.

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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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I have 255/40/18 tires on 9.5 wide with 40 offset all around, it was fine at stock height but I'm really low now and it took a little rolling and pulling, if you got 45 off set it would be great at stock or a mild drop, we need the meaty tires for sure
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 01:43 PM
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I am on Tein basic coil overs. Lowered 1" in front and like 1.2" in the back. It's mild, and have control arms out back.

I want tire/wheel combo that can be rotated. So if I need to get mild adapters for the back or whatever, it should be o.k. If I don't have to roll I won't. If I have to, then I guess I will.

I am open to suggestions. I'm not going to move on it immediately, I just had to replace my furnace in my house, so all other purchases will be on "hold" til next year.

Unless some vendor wants to help me via sponsorship. Wheels/brakes are next up. for sure.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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lol optimus, I hope someone sponsors you. You've been asking for it every other post

255 square setup, you'll need a roll in the front for sure, and possibly even in the rear. How much camber you got in the rear with your new arms? I don't think you'll need a pull in the rear; if anything just the fronts. With a setup like 18x8.5 +45, you might not need a pull (not sure), but 8.5" might not be wide enough for your 255s. I suggest at least 9s.

Rule of thumb is, get what you want first, then work on the fender after (within reasonable expectations of course). As UTAH pointed out, 255s are doable if you're willing to put in work.

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Sorry guys, I know this stuff has nothing to do with boost. Just tryna help out

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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 02:48 PM
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I will sponsor you. I will provide positive words of encouragement for your build.

Optimus, you're awesome
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Old Sep 23, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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I can feel the love...

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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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Another sneak peek from RV6:
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Originally Posted by thunderbt3
Looks like it mounts the turbo up a little higher than mine, I like the cast manifold mine took a ton of work to make
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Yup, Richie acknowledges you as the pioneer in this field for the CU2. They did differently to save on production costs.
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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 12:10 PM
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Who are the five greatest CU2 tuners in the world?

1. Utah
2. Utah
3. Utah
4. Utah
5. Utah

Why? because his turbo spits hot fire.
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Originally Posted by optimusaccord
Who are the five greatest CU2 tuners in the world?

1. Utah
2. Utah
3. Utah
4. Utah
5. Utah

Why? because his turbo spits hot fire.
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Old Sep 27, 2014 | 09:03 AM
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Hey, was just wondering where you went to purchase your new belt for your supercharger?

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Yeah, I just received my aftercooler setup, and 2.2" pulley. I just need to purchase a new belt and 1 step colder spark plugs. Anddd I guess I should check my duty cycle again to make sure I am not maxed out, or I'll have to get a new fuel pump too.




Utah, you are right about CTE providing a starting point, they suggest getting it tuned, but I've driven over 1000 miles now and it still feels pretty great!

It was really hard to turn down our AutoX event at work... I knew I couldnt push it since it wasn't tuned fully yet.
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Old Sep 28, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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I'm actually looking into that today... The civic forums have good info, and I know what size I need just gotta figure out the right part number that will fit.

I'll post links when I buy.
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Old Sep 28, 2014 | 01:25 PM
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Soooo I just took measurements again, and I originally thought I had the 3.2" pulley (I measured the OD of the pulley, but just now realize I should be measuring OD from pulley ribs) and it looks like I have the Merc 2.95" pulley which adds about 4-5psi from the stock CTE pulley. So basically boosting around 11-12psi not including the aftercooler.

I've been reading and it looks like my stock belt will fit with this smaller pulley. The fact that the Merc aftercooler adapter that sits in between the blower and manifold pushes the belts farther out is offset by the smaller pulley size. I guess I will find out real soon.
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Old Sep 28, 2014 | 03:43 PM
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Did you get the stage 1 or stage 2 aftercooler?
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Old Sep 28, 2014 | 09:16 PM
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uhmmm I ordered the only aftercooler that was available for the CTE kit from MERC Racing.

To be honest... I had no idea a smaller pulley was coming with the kit. I thought I was going to have to buy that separately. But it's here now so Im trying to figure out what the next steps are.
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 09:40 AM
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I was thinking about IMT, they have two stages of aftercoolers.
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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I'd be interested to know the differences between IMT stage 1 and 2 aftercoolers
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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Here is the link to their information...

IMT Kool Boost 2.25 Charge-Air Cooler/Aftercooler - IMT Store
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 11:11 AM
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Should we start a suspension thread?

I ask, because the Tein basics are fine for regular cruising around, but... we'll say higher demand situations call for struts that provide better dampening.

What do others use?
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Originally Posted by optimusaccord
Should we start a suspension thread?

I ask, because the Tein basics are fine for regular cruising around, but... we'll say higher demand situations call for struts that provide better dampening.

What do others use?
Probably should start a suspension thread.
I have heard good things about BC racing and Megan coils.
There is also this chassis bracing kit, but I don't know how effective it really is.
https://www.heeltoeauto.com/tech-art...ra-tsx-tl.html
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iCrap
Probably should start a suspension thread.
I have heard good things about BC racing and Megan coils.
There is also this chassis bracing kit, but I don't know how effective it really is.
https://www.heeltoeauto.com/tech-art...ra-tsx-tl.html
yeah, I actually demoed the chassis braces for the CU2.

I still have them on my car, been on for like... 4 or 4.5 years??

Ugh, time flies by.

I think the tein basics just don't have enough dampening. When you get at speed, many roads are far more unsmooth than you would believe.
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 12:20 PM
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Its hard to keep track of the three threads we have lol..

I feel like the Hondata Thread stays on track, but this thread and Utah's thread are everywhere haha.
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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Well, what would be the best way going forward? I'm open to it.

Since this is kind of a "boost" related issue, I thought I'd throw it in here, but it's a combination of boost and suspension... ??
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