Let's Talk About Boost!
#1
ROTAREDOM
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Let's Talk About Boost!
I'm creating this thread out of necessity for us boosted members to share a commonwealth of knowledge for the Azine community.
Here I would like to discuss all mechanical aspects of boosting a CU2 ( 09+ Acura TSX). This includes any and all components necessary to boost, i.e specific SC kits, Turbo brands, intercooler/aftercooler setups, spark plugs, fuel pumps,injectors, exhaust, manifold, throttle body, boost/AFR gauges, etc..
For tuning specific questions via Flashpro please view:
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tsx-performance-parts-modifications-299/official-hondata-flashpro-calibration-tuning-thread-879320/
For Manual Transmission Clutch Pack questions please view:
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tsx-performance-parts-modifications-299/upgraded-clutch-assembly-915483/
I'll start off by saying I recently bought a CTE Supercharger kit and have nearly 300 miles on it. Running stock calibration provided by Hondata Flashpro. For specific questions about MY BUILD see the linked thread in my signature. If you still have questions please pose them here.
Here is mine:
Here I would like to discuss all mechanical aspects of boosting a CU2 ( 09+ Acura TSX). This includes any and all components necessary to boost, i.e specific SC kits, Turbo brands, intercooler/aftercooler setups, spark plugs, fuel pumps,injectors, exhaust, manifold, throttle body, boost/AFR gauges, etc..
For tuning specific questions via Flashpro please view:
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tsx-performance-parts-modifications-299/official-hondata-flashpro-calibration-tuning-thread-879320/
For Manual Transmission Clutch Pack questions please view:
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tsx-performance-parts-modifications-299/upgraded-clutch-assembly-915483/
I'll start off by saying I recently bought a CTE Supercharger kit and have nearly 300 miles on it. Running stock calibration provided by Hondata Flashpro. For specific questions about MY BUILD see the linked thread in my signature. If you still have questions please pose them here.
Here is mine:
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UTAH TSX (08-25-2014)
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I was going to post a picture of my new oil catch can setup, I ordered two extra fittings just incase but NO still dont have the right one so I orded two more fittings now I'm into this about $ 300 and I will have 3 ($100 woth of fittings) sitting in my tool box for the next 10 years. WELCOME TO THE BOOSTED LIFE
Last edited by UTAH TSX; 08-26-2014 at 09:44 AM.
#3
ROTAREDOM
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I was going to post a picture of my new oil catch can setup, I ordered two extra fittings just incase but NO still dont have the right one so I orded two more fittings now I'm into this about $ 300 and I will have 3 ($100 woth of fittings) sitting in my tool box for the next 10 years. WELCOME TO THE BOOSTED LIFE
Im interested to see where/how you mount your can. I'm waiting for the one I designed to be manufactured haha. Im baised lol.
#4
VTEC just kicked in, yo!
Does anyone know why the CT-E SC is not compatible for the 11+ TSX, aside from no support for tuning? Not that I'm dumb enough to do this since there's no tuning available, but out of curiosity, couldn't I bolt the 09-10 CT-E SC onto an 11+?
#5
ROTAREDOM
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So the answer to your "real" question is yes, you can go ahead and buy everything now and by the time it's shipped and you install it there will likely be support.
#6
Burning Brakes
So, while the tuning continues, I'm on revision 5. The turbo response is just crazy. The car feels like it is just being pushed forwards.
Maybe tonight I'll wax the roof and the hood and take a pic or two.
Sorry, I've been gone at work quite a bit, and it takes me getting out to the car and taking it for a spin.
I'll get some pics. Also, I am open to suggestions on exhaust. I am thinking about going single again, 3" back to like a flowmaster, or magnaflow or (insert suggestion here) that will meet flow requirements, while not being crazy.
I like the low key way the car is now.
utah, what do you think about replacing the stock mid pipe and y pipe with larger, but using the factory muffler(s)?
Maybe tonight I'll wax the roof and the hood and take a pic or two.
Sorry, I've been gone at work quite a bit, and it takes me getting out to the car and taking it for a spin.
I'll get some pics. Also, I am open to suggestions on exhaust. I am thinking about going single again, 3" back to like a flowmaster, or magnaflow or (insert suggestion here) that will meet flow requirements, while not being crazy.
I like the low key way the car is now.
utah, what do you think about replacing the stock mid pipe and y pipe with larger, but using the factory muffler(s)?
#7
ROTAREDOM
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I don't know much about exhausts but can't you just have a Downpipe made with one high flow cat and still pass emissions? Then swap it out for some kind of straight pipe after your test?
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#9
TSX AMG Type //M i-VVT
Not at the moment, nope.
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ssjoeboe9 (08-31-2014)
#10
ROTAREDOM
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Rv6 is supposedly developing. I hear they are done with everything but the hot side of the turbo.
#12
Burning Brakes
Holy ish... today's data log... second gear just spins... the traction control kept flashing.
It's going to be magically delicious.
It's going to be magically delicious.
#13
TSX AMG Type //M i-VVT
#14
bet you look like this when the boost hits
#15
ROTAREDOM
Thread Starter
Glad to hear you are really enjoying your turbo tsx Optimus.
On another note, I read on the civic forums that with the CTE supercharger kit some people were getting a lot of noise coming from their idler pulley.
I can confirm that every once in a while there is indeed a small screech. On startup almost every time. And every once in a while when you let off the throttle when in full boost.
I think there is another pulley you can buy, but for now it doesn't bother me too much. Still got a lot of other things to get setup for stage 2!
On another note, I read on the civic forums that with the CTE supercharger kit some people were getting a lot of noise coming from their idler pulley.
I can confirm that every once in a while there is indeed a small screech. On startup almost every time. And every once in a while when you let off the throttle when in full boost.
I think there is another pulley you can buy, but for now it doesn't bother me too much. Still got a lot of other things to get setup for stage 2!
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optimusaccord (09-08-2014)
#16
ROTAREDOM
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Alright guys, got the boost gauge installed as mentioned earlier in my build thread. I'll try not to duplicate information but for this Im going to haha.
On CTE kit, I am reading 6psi (under full boost) pretty consistently as advertised on CTE website. I did hit 7psi on the way to work in 4th gear but haven't gotten that high again. Idle is around -21psi. 50% throttle is around -10psi and 75% is around 2psi
For now here is a vid and pictures. Went with Prosport Evo Premium Boost Gauge.
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On CTE kit, I am reading 6psi (under full boost) pretty consistently as advertised on CTE website. I did hit 7psi on the way to work in 4th gear but haven't gotten that high again. Idle is around -21psi. 50% throttle is around -10psi and 75% is around 2psi
For now here is a vid and pictures. Went with Prosport Evo Premium Boost Gauge.
EA551787-8DD8-464D-A1CE-42D14BBC15FA_zpshh0jyh1n.jpg?1410818585450
#17
Burning Brakes
Cool. What is that mounting plate?
#18
ROTAREDOM
Thread Starter
It not a mounting plate haha it's actually a portion of the box that it came in. It's temporary until I get my wideband gauge installed. Then hopefully I can make something a little cleaner. (Also I gotta figure out how wideband to Hondata connection works??)
#19
We cant make wideband connect to our ECU or Hondata, I use the AEM data log to compare to the stock wideband it is pretty close until you get to 12 psi then our sensor reads leaner than the AEM by about .2 up to .5 off at 16 PSI
#20
Burning Brakes
Utah, so today I have been hitting the data logs quick, and turning around updates.
I was on 2.2 and he wanted a wot to 7500. The engine started struggling, and it just was not accelerating. Could this be the stock exhaust choking the engine?
I am going to get a 3" all the way back tomorrow morning. Hopefully that remedies this issue.
I was on 2.2 and he wanted a wot to 7500. The engine started struggling, and it just was not accelerating. Could this be the stock exhaust choking the engine?
I am going to get a 3" all the way back tomorrow morning. Hopefully that remedies this issue.
#21
ROTAREDOM
Thread Starter
Do you know something I don't know? I've read multiple threads (on hondata website) that say you basically splice into the wire harness for the 2nd 02 sensor and then tell hondata that's where you've places your wideband and then it'll spit out a comparison (based on the afr vs voltage entered from the wideband spec sheet) between stock readings and what the wideband is reading.
#22
Do you know something I don't know? I've read multiple threads (on hondata website) that say you basically splice into the wire harness for the 2nd 02 sensor and then tell hondata that's where you've places your wideband and then it'll spit out a comparison (based on the afr vs voltage entered from the wideband spec sheet) between stock readings and what the wideband is reading.
#23
ROTAREDOM
Thread Starter
It says that the secondary 02 sensor is not recommended because the ECU internally limits the voltage... but idk how true that is nowadays.
FlashPro Help
And here is a DIY install and tuning guide for wideband on a PLX
Tech - Wideband tuning
FlashPro Help
And here is a DIY install and tuning guide for wideband on a PLX
Tech - Wideband tuning
#24
ROTAREDOM
Thread Starter
Scott, did you get a chance to read those articles yet?
#25
Burning Brakes
I did read them. They seem to reference the old s300. Is it the same for the flashpro?
Either way, I won't be doing any modifications like that, the least amount of changes to the factory wiring is where I am at.
Aren't you supercharged? Are you going to try to modify the fueling and ignition?
Either way, I won't be doing any modifications like that, the least amount of changes to the factory wiring is where I am at.
Aren't you supercharged? Are you going to try to modify the fueling and ignition?
#26
ROTAREDOM
Thread Starter
I did read them. They seem to reference the old s300. Is it the same for the flashpro?
Either way, I won't be doing any modifications like that, the least amount of changes to the factory wiring is where I am at.
Aren't you supercharged? Are you going to try to modify the fueling and ignition?
Either way, I won't be doing any modifications like that, the least amount of changes to the factory wiring is where I am at.
Aren't you supercharged? Are you going to try to modify the fueling and ignition?
So you are data logging on a separate unit like Utah then? To be honest I don't think it will be very hard to do. Pretty much everyone turns off the 2nd 02 sensor because you will throw an emissions code. You know we are never going back to stock, so might as well tap into the wire that's not being used. I mean it's only transferring voltage to the ecu, so now I'm just gunna tell hondata that signal is my wideband...
Idk it seems logical in my head.
#27
I didn't see any thing that we could change in the flash pro we can change like that ?
#28
Burning Brakes
Well yeah... I have to modify the fuel and ignition. I'm forcing more air down the engines throat.
So you are data logging on a separate unit like Utah then? To be honest I don't think it will be very hard to do. Pretty much everyone turns off the 2nd 02 sensor because you will throw an emissions code. You know we are never going back to stock, so might as well tap into the wire that's not being used. I mean it's only transferring voltage to the ecu, so now I'm just gunna tell hondata that signal is my wideband...
Idk it seems logical in my head.
So you are data logging on a separate unit like Utah then? To be honest I don't think it will be very hard to do. Pretty much everyone turns off the 2nd 02 sensor because you will throw an emissions code. You know we are never going back to stock, so might as well tap into the wire that's not being used. I mean it's only transferring voltage to the ecu, so now I'm just gunna tell hondata that signal is my wideband...
Idk it seems logical in my head.
I thought your fuel and ignition map were set when the kit was installed. I didn't realize you were going to be enacting changes to your setup.
That's why I asked if you were going to modify the fuel/ignition maps.
Utah,
If this was possible wouldn't it entail splicing into the wire harness? I was planning on going with an external setup like you are running.
On a side note, I did a 2k-7.5k run yesterday with new plugs and new exhaust.
WOW. It's pretty wild. To feel like this, right now, in a spot that I do believe the tuning is not more than half done, it just screams.
Going to run a few pulls today after I wrap up work.
Last edited by optimusaccord; 09-19-2014 at 09:06 AM.
#29
I've herd that the CTE tune is just a starting point ? is that right
Otimus I think you should be knocking on 400 WHP's door ask vit if he will give you an edyno chart, How does your exhaust sound ? what did you end up using ?
Otimus I think you should be knocking on 400 WHP's door ask vit if he will give you an edyno chart, How does your exhaust sound ? what did you end up using ?
#30
Burning Brakes
It's loud and low.
a 3" from the cat back. 1 18" resonator, and a Flowmaster 40 series muffler.
It's a little loud, but, when you open it up, she screams. My kids love it.
a 3" from the cat back. 1 18" resonator, and a Flowmaster 40 series muffler.
It's a little loud, but, when you open it up, she screams. My kids love it.
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Nov!ce (12-09-2014)
#31
TSX AMG Type //M i-VVT
videos! ^^
#32
What oil are you using ? use at least a 10w30 or 5w30 premium synthetic, in hot weather I use 10w40, your oil is getting much hotter now and heavier oil is needed
#33
Burning Brakes
I'm using the Torco oil Axion sold me. It is synthetic, I believe it's 0w20 or 0w30?
I have only used synthetic.
I have only used synthetic.
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optimusaccord (09-19-2014)
#36
ROTAREDOM
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Are you going to change out the pulley? Are you going to modify the throttle body or exhaust?
I thought your fuel and ignition map were set when the kit was installed. I didn't realize you were going to be enacting changes to your setup.
That's why I asked if you were going to modify the fuel/ignition maps.
Utah,
If this was possible wouldn't it entail splicing into the wire harness? I was planning on going with an external setup like you are running.
On a side note, I did a 2k-7.5k run yesterday with new plugs and new exhaust.
WOW. It's pretty wild. To feel like this, right now, in a spot that I do believe the tuning is not more than half done, it just screams.
Going to run a few pulls today after I wrap up work.
I thought your fuel and ignition map were set when the kit was installed. I didn't realize you were going to be enacting changes to your setup.
That's why I asked if you were going to modify the fuel/ignition maps.
Utah,
If this was possible wouldn't it entail splicing into the wire harness? I was planning on going with an external setup like you are running.
On a side note, I did a 2k-7.5k run yesterday with new plugs and new exhaust.
WOW. It's pretty wild. To feel like this, right now, in a spot that I do believe the tuning is not more than half done, it just screams.
Going to run a few pulls today after I wrap up work.
It was really hard to turn down our AutoX event at work... I knew I couldnt push it since it wasn't tuned fully yet.
#37
TSX AMG Type //M i-VVT
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#40
Burning Brakes
Utah, you were right, I do have the 6psi can, because looking at logs it seems that boost sits right around 6~7 psi.
Hooray!
Hooray!