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Old Aug 25, 2014 | 06:35 PM
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Let's Talk About Boost!

I'm creating this thread out of necessity for us boosted members to share a commonwealth of knowledge for the Azine community.

Here I would like to discuss all mechanical aspects of boosting a CU2 ( 09+ Acura TSX). This includes any and all components necessary to boost, i.e specific SC kits, Turbo brands, intercooler/aftercooler setups, spark plugs, fuel pumps,injectors, exhaust, manifold, throttle body, boost/AFR gauges, etc..

For tuning specific questions via Flashpro please view:

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tsx-performance-parts-modifications-299/official-hondata-flashpro-calibration-tuning-thread-879320/

For Manual Transmission Clutch Pack questions please view:

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tsx-performance-parts-modifications-299/upgraded-clutch-assembly-915483/



I'll start off by saying I recently bought a CTE Supercharger kit and have nearly 300 miles on it. Running stock calibration provided by Hondata Flashpro. For specific questions about MY BUILD see the linked thread in my signature. If you still have questions please pose them here.

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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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I was going to post a picture of my new oil catch can setup, I ordered two extra fittings just incase but NO still dont have the right one so I orded two more fittings now I'm into this about $ 300 and I will have 3 ($100 woth of fittings) sitting in my tool box for the next 10 years. WELCOME TO THE BOOSTED LIFE

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Old Aug 26, 2014 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
I was going to post a picture of my new oil catch can setup, I ordered two extra fittings just incase but NO still dont have the right one so I orded two more fittings now I'm into this about $ 300 and I will have 3 ($100 woth of fittings) sitting in my tool box for the next 10 years. WELCOME TO THE BOOSTED LIFE
You should have let me know you were in the market for fittings. My sponsor for senior design sells some great 3/8" npt (and other size) swivel fittings specifically for oil applications.

Im interested to see where/how you mount your can. I'm waiting for the one I designed to be manufactured haha. Im baised lol.
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 12:17 PM
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Does anyone know why the CT-E SC is not compatible for the 11+ TSX, aside from no support for tuning? Not that I'm dumb enough to do this since there's no tuning available, but out of curiosity, couldn't I bolt the 09-10 CT-E SC onto an 11+?
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by xtcnrice
Does anyone know why the CT-E SC is not compatible for the 11+ TSX, aside from no support for tuning? Not that I'm dumb enough to do this since there's no tuning available, but out of curiosity, couldn't I bolt the 09-10 CT-E SC onto an 11+?
Yeah, tuning is the only thing holding the 11+ back. Everything will bolt up exactly the same.

So the answer to your "real" question is yes, you can go ahead and buy everything now and by the time it's shipped and you install it there will likely be support.
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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So, while the tuning continues, I'm on revision 5. The turbo response is just crazy. The car feels like it is just being pushed forwards.

Maybe tonight I'll wax the roof and the hood and take a pic or two.

Sorry, I've been gone at work quite a bit, and it takes me getting out to the car and taking it for a spin.

I'll get some pics. Also, I am open to suggestions on exhaust. I am thinking about going single again, 3" back to like a flowmaster, or magnaflow or (insert suggestion here) that will meet flow requirements, while not being crazy.

I like the low key way the car is now.

utah, what do you think about replacing the stock mid pipe and y pipe with larger, but using the factory muffler(s)?
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 10:48 PM
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I don't know much about exhausts but can't you just have a Downpipe made with one high flow cat and still pass emissions? Then swap it out for some kind of straight pipe after your test?
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Old Aug 30, 2014 | 10:28 PM
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I see there is a CT Sc kit anyone make a turbo kit for our cars?
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Old Aug 30, 2014 | 11:00 PM
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Not at the moment, nope.
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Old Aug 31, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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Rv6 is supposedly developing. I hear they are done with everything but the hot side of the turbo.
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Old Aug 31, 2014 | 12:42 PM
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Sweet hopefully it will be about the same price as the comptech supercharger.
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 02:34 PM
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Holy ish... today's data log... second gear just spins... the traction control kept flashing.

It's going to be magically delicious.
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by optimusaccord
Holy ish... today's data log... second gear just spins... the traction control kept flashing.

It's going to be magically delicious.
we needs photos and vids!
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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Holy ish... today's data log... second gear just spins... the traction control kept flashing.

It's going to be magically delicious.
That is what I have been waiting for, glad to hear this I can read the smile on you're face, how much boost are you running ? is it still at the lowest adjustment,
bet you look like this when the boost hits
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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Glad to hear you are really enjoying your turbo tsx Optimus.

On another note, I read on the civic forums that with the CTE supercharger kit some people were getting a lot of noise coming from their idler pulley.

I can confirm that every once in a while there is indeed a small screech. On startup almost every time. And every once in a while when you let off the throttle when in full boost.

I think there is another pulley you can buy, but for now it doesn't bother me too much. Still got a lot of other things to get setup for stage 2!
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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 05:05 PM
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Alright guys, got the boost gauge installed as mentioned earlier in my build thread. I'll try not to duplicate information but for this Im going to haha.

On CTE kit, I am reading 6psi (under full boost) pretty consistently as advertised on CTE website. I did hit 7psi on the way to work in 4th gear but haven't gotten that high again. Idle is around -21psi. 50% throttle is around -10psi and 75% is around 2psi

For now here is a vid and pictures. Went with Prosport Evo Premium Boost Gauge.


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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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Cool. What is that mounting plate?
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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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Cool. What is that mounting plate?
It not a mounting plate haha it's actually a portion of the box that it came in. It's temporary until I get my wideband gauge installed. Then hopefully I can make something a little cleaner. (Also I gotta figure out how wideband to Hondata connection works??)
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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
It not a mounting plate haha it's actually a portion of the box that it came in. It's temporary until I get my wideband gauge installed. Then hopefully I can make something a little cleaner. (Also I gotta figure out how wideband to Hondata connection works??)
We cant make wideband connect to our ECU or Hondata, I use the AEM data log to compare to the stock wideband it is pretty close until you get to 12 psi then our sensor reads leaner than the AEM by about .2 up to .5 off at 16 PSI
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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 08:38 PM
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Utah, so today I have been hitting the data logs quick, and turning around updates.

I was on 2.2 and he wanted a wot to 7500. The engine started struggling, and it just was not accelerating. Could this be the stock exhaust choking the engine?

I am going to get a 3" all the way back tomorrow morning. Hopefully that remedies this issue.

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Originally Posted by UTAH TSX
We cant make wideband connect to our ECU or Hondata, I use the AEM data log to compare to the stock wideband it is pretty close until you get to 12 psi then our sensor reads leaner than the AEM by about .2 up to .5 off at 16 PSI
Do you know something I don't know? I've read multiple threads (on hondata website) that say you basically splice into the wire harness for the 2nd 02 sensor and then tell hondata that's where you've places your wideband and then it'll spit out a comparison (based on the afr vs voltage entered from the wideband spec sheet) between stock readings and what the wideband is reading.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
Do you know something I don't know? I've read multiple threads (on hondata website) that say you basically splice into the wire harness for the 2nd 02 sensor and then tell hondata that's where you've places your wideband and then it'll spit out a comparison (based on the afr vs voltage entered from the wideband spec sheet) between stock readings and what the wideband is reading.
Thats new to me the second sensor is not wide band but I guess it still reads voltage will you post some links
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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It says that the secondary 02 sensor is not recommended because the ECU internally limits the voltage... but idk how true that is nowadays.

FlashPro Help


And here is a DIY install and tuning guide for wideband on a PLX

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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Scott, did you get a chance to read those articles yet?
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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I did read them. They seem to reference the old s300. Is it the same for the flashpro?

Either way, I won't be doing any modifications like that, the least amount of changes to the factory wiring is where I am at.

Aren't you supercharged? Are you going to try to modify the fueling and ignition?
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I did read them. They seem to reference the old s300. Is it the same for the flashpro?

Either way, I won't be doing any modifications like that, the least amount of changes to the factory wiring is where I am at.

Aren't you supercharged? Are you going to try to modify the fueling and ignition?
Well yeah... I have to modify the fuel and ignition. I'm forcing more air down the engines throat.

So you are data logging on a separate unit like Utah then? To be honest I don't think it will be very hard to do. Pretty much everyone turns off the 2nd 02 sensor because you will throw an emissions code. You know we are never going back to stock, so might as well tap into the wire that's not being used. I mean it's only transferring voltage to the ecu, so now I'm just gunna tell hondata that signal is my wideband...

Idk it seems logical in my head.
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I didn't see any thing that we could change in the flash pro we can change like that ?
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ssjoeboe9
Well yeah... I have to modify the fuel and ignition. I'm forcing more air down the engines throat.

So you are data logging on a separate unit like Utah then? To be honest I don't think it will be very hard to do. Pretty much everyone turns off the 2nd 02 sensor because you will throw an emissions code. You know we are never going back to stock, so might as well tap into the wire that's not being used. I mean it's only transferring voltage to the ecu, so now I'm just gunna tell hondata that signal is my wideband...

Idk it seems logical in my head.
Are you going to change out the pulley? Are you going to modify the throttle body or exhaust?

I thought your fuel and ignition map were set when the kit was installed. I didn't realize you were going to be enacting changes to your setup.

That's why I asked if you were going to modify the fuel/ignition maps.

Utah,

If this was possible wouldn't it entail splicing into the wire harness? I was planning on going with an external setup like you are running.

On a side note, I did a 2k-7.5k run yesterday with new plugs and new exhaust.

WOW. It's pretty wild. To feel like this, right now, in a spot that I do believe the tuning is not more than half done, it just screams.

Going to run a few pulls today after I wrap up work.

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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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I've herd that the CTE tune is just a starting point ? is that right
Otimus I think you should be knocking on 400 WHP's door ask vit if he will give you an edyno chart, How does your exhaust sound ? what did you end up using ?
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 11:16 AM
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It's loud and low.

a 3" from the cat back. 1 18" resonator, and a Flowmaster 40 series muffler.

It's a little loud, but, when you open it up, she screams. My kids love it.
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 11:58 AM
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It's loud and low.

a 3" from the cat back. 1 18" resonator, and a Flowmaster 40 series muffler.

It's a little loud, but, when you open it up, she screams. My kids love it.
What oil are you using ? use at least a 10w30 or 5w30 premium synthetic, in hot weather I use 10w40, your oil is getting much hotter now and heavier oil is needed
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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I'm using the Torco oil Axion sold me. It is synthetic, I believe it's 0w20 or 0w30?

I have only used synthetic.
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by optimusaccord
I'm using the Torco oil Axion sold me. It is synthetic, I believe it's 0w20 or 0w30?

I have only used synthetic.
Yeah that is super good oil even 0w20 is ok but do the 0w30 next time
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So jelly of you all. But then again, it's my fault for owning a 2013, and my fault for not buying the shit I want.

optimus, I'm with iCrap though. We need some vids!
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Originally Posted by optimusaccord
Are you going to change out the pulley? Are you going to modify the throttle body or exhaust?

I thought your fuel and ignition map were set when the kit was installed. I didn't realize you were going to be enacting changes to your setup.

That's why I asked if you were going to modify the fuel/ignition maps.

Utah,

If this was possible wouldn't it entail splicing into the wire harness? I was planning on going with an external setup like you are running.

On a side note, I did a 2k-7.5k run yesterday with new plugs and new exhaust.

WOW. It's pretty wild. To feel like this, right now, in a spot that I do believe the tuning is not more than half done, it just screams.

Going to run a few pulls today after I wrap up work.
Yeah, I just received my aftercooler setup, and 2.2" pulley. I just need to purchase a new belt and 1 step colder spark plugs. Anddd I guess I should check my duty cycle again to make sure I am not maxed out, or I'll have to get a new fuel pump too.


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I've herd that the CTE tune is just a starting point ? is that right
Otimus I think you should be knocking on 400 WHP's door ask vit if he will give you an edyno chart, How does your exhaust sound ? what did you end up using ?
Utah, you are right about CTE providing a starting point, they suggest getting it tuned, but I've driven over 1000 miles now and it still feels pretty great!

It was really hard to turn down our AutoX event at work... I knew I couldnt push it since it wasn't tuned fully yet.
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So jelly of you all. But then again, it's my fault for owning a 2013, and my fault for not buying the shit I want.

optimus, I'm with iCrap though. We need some vids!
But you can do this stuff now since Hondata is coming out!
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But you can do this stuff now since Hondata is coming out!
I'm a cheap ass I feel the car is too new for turbo (yeah lame), and I can't justify the price of the SC and parts.
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Originally Posted by xtcnrice
I'm a cheap ass I feel the car is too new for turbo (yeah lame), and I can't justify the price of the SC and parts.
In 3 months it will be an old beater LOL boost that thing up and it will be like new again
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Utah, you were right, I do have the 6psi can, because looking at logs it seems that boost sits right around 6~7 psi.

Hooray!
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