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Old 03-14-2008, 01:55 AM
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[rant]I say screw all the torque addicts, make every car rev to 9000 RPM, mate it to only a 6 speed manual, and let me go out and enjoy my 80 degree day! [/rant]

hahah LOL.


I'm actually going to be in Hawaii in two weeks of a friends wedding. Maybe I'll like the new TSX after I get back from Hawaii!
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For me as a purchaser of 2 Acuras, what has been so disappointing is the bland body "re-design" after seeing the sports4.

In addition, the new TSX has grown to same length as Camry...and with similar design lines. I can almost deal with the HP downsizing.

The sport4 offered hope for a 2+2 personal sized Lexus IS, A4, BMW-3 or MB 300 Sport.

Unfortunately, we received a rehashed camry/saturn priced at a premium and almost a foot longer than the above mentioned IS, A4, BMW & MB300.

I am so very disappointed with honda/acura as i've been so satisfied with my current and previous Acuras.
Old 03-14-2008, 08:46 AM
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The size of the 09 TSX is better to be compared with the Infiniti G35 than the Camry. The TSX is still smaller the TL for instance and is less than 6" longer than the IS.
Old 03-14-2008, 04:47 PM
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I returned my '04 TSX late last year, after debating whether to hang onto it until the '09s are shown. Nevertheless, I've been interested to see where Acura takes the new TSX, and have been checking here for updates now and then.

Honestly, I'm disappointed in the direction the TSX has gone, for many of the reasons already posted here over the last dozen or so pages. I still look forward to seeing one in person, but frankly, I knew when I saw the pics and read the press release, it wasn't for me anyway.

I don't know if this model will be as popular as the previous one (I have my doubts), but if it isn't, I hope Acura will take some time to understand why.
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By the way, on Acura's official Preview site there's another picture of the TSX hiding behind the curtains. I extracted it from the flash. It's a pretty lousy picture, and from it we can tell that the TSX... looks just like the Euro Accord from the side. Shocking, I know.

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Interesting, great to see them put those ugly wheels on there. I swear I've seen those rims on an older gen accord before, or mazda.
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Originally Posted by LaZyPiGgY
Interesting, great to see them put those ugly wheels on there. I swear I've seen those rims on an older gen accord before, or mazda.
Hmm, they look round to me? Its funny how much emphasis people put on wheels. The only thing I care about is that they're easy to clean. Even then, the style of the wheel has NEVER presented me with a 'go' or 'no go' ultimatum on any car I've ever owned.

Of the 15 cars my wife and I have owned, I've only once changed the wheels and that was to go +1 on the old MR-2 Supercharged. Obviously I don't get it?
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Originally Posted by davidspalding
There's plenty of room here for everyone's opinions to coexist. Everyone hug now and be friends...

Why can't we be friends....
Why can't we be friends?


Old 03-16-2008, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by darmok
By the way, on Acura's official Preview site there's another picture of the TSX hiding behind the curtains. I extracted it from the flash. It's a pretty lousy picture, and from it we can tell that the TSX... looks just like the Euro Accord from the side. Shocking, I know.

Ha, I was waiting for someone to do that.
Old 03-16-2008, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by surf4fun0418
Why can't we be friends....
Why can't we be friends?


Awwww, i'm ready to hold hands and sing Kumbaya
Old 03-16-2008, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
Awwww, i'm ready to hold hands and sing Kumbaya

Old 03-17-2008, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by darmok
By the way, on Acura's official Preview site there's another picture of the TSX hiding behind the curtains. I extracted it from the flash. It's a pretty lousy picture, and from it we can tell that the TSX... looks just like the Euro Accord from the side. Shocking, I know.

...a bigger version:

Old 03-17-2008, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
Awwww, i'm ready to hold hands and sing Kumbaya
/me reaches for the bottle of Purell. (No, nothing personal, Colin. After nudging me to do the "poke test," I'm in your debt.)
Originally Posted by darmok
By the way, on Acura's official Preview site there's another picture of the TSX hiding behind the curtains. I extracted it from the flash. It's a pretty lousy picture, and from it we can tell that the TSX... looks just like the Euro Accord from the side. Shocking, I know.
Now I KNOW I don't like those big Betty Davis Eyes fender flares.
Old 03-17-2008, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by davidspalding
/me reaches for the bottle of Purell.
Now I KNOW I don't like those big Betty Davis Eyes fender flares.
Hey don't worry, I don't take offense easily, let's compromise!

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I love those demotivators. I have about 8 on my wall.

You think we could use this one towards the styling of the new TSX????



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Originally Posted by jlukja
...a bigger version:

The resemblance to a Camry is scary...and so disappointing although the TSX looks a bit bloated compared to the sleeker Camry.
Old 03-18-2008, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin
Old 03-18-2008, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by freeperjim
The resemblance to a Camry is scary...and so disappointing although the TSX looks a bit bloated compared to the sleeker Camry.

What did I say all along???

haha
Old 03-18-2008, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by davidspalding
Now I KNOW I don't like those big Betty Davis Eyes fender flares.
Agreed. One of the things I love most about the styling of the current TSX is the way it looks like it's skin is stretched over the frame underneath. Kinda reminds me of a greyhound or a race horse or something. The new body style just doesn't have that barely contained look.

I dunno, I'm still waiting to see one in person before I allow my opinion to solidify.
Old 03-18-2008, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by freeperjim
The resemblance to a Camry is scary...and so disappointing although the TSX looks a bit bloated compared to the sleeker Camry.
Just from the profile shot it appears that there is more weight over the rear axle. If true then the F/R weight distribution should be a bit better than our first gen.

jlukja, who is looking for silver linings in this cloud
Old 03-18-2008, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by davidspalding
Now I KNOW I don't like those big Betty Davis Eyes fender flares.
When I the new TSX at the focus group I thought the fender flares/treatment was the worst aspect of the car. Absolutely HATE them.
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I didn't notice the fender flares when I first saw the car, but now they keep turning me off more and more. I agree that it looks like ours is 'barely contained'. It just looks.....better??


I reserve final judgement until I see one though.
Old 03-18-2008, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron

I dunno, I'm still waiting to see one in person before I allow my opinion to solidify.

Agreed. The new Accord sedan is IMO a good example of a car that didn't look good in pics but IMO looks pretty good in person.

Then again, I loved the styling of the current gen TSX from the first pic we ever saw.
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Does anyone think they're more of an afterthought (the fender flares that is). It looks like that was the last thing they did in designing and they just got tired and decided to say "Oh look, it's 5 o' clock. Time to go home."...or at least have that attitude towards it and didn't put ANY thought into it.
Old 03-18-2008, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Agreed. The new Accord sedan is IMO a good example of a car that didn't look good in pics but IMO looks pretty good in person.

The new Accord sedan looks very muscular in person. It looks great in darker colors as well.
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Originally Posted by JAB00
The new Accord sedan looks very muscular in person. It looks great in darker colors as well.

If the headlights were flush, I wouldn't have one thing bad to say about that car's styling.
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Originally Posted by dom
Agreed. The new Accord sedan is IMO a good example of a car that didn't look good in pics but IMO looks pretty good in person.

Then again, I loved the styling of the current gen TSX from the first pic we ever saw.
I don't know...my mother-in-law just got an Accord sedan and I was not too impressed with the look close up. I think they look pretty good on the road but sitting still I have a problem with the cheap looking grille, the upside down door handles and the indented line that runs the length of the car. However, as with most Honda products these days the back end is nice!
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Originally Posted by surf4fun0418
Does anyone think they're more of an afterthought (the fender flares that is). It looks like that was the last thing they did in designing and they just got tired and decided to say "Oh look, it's 5 o' clock. Time to go home."...or at least have that attitude towards it and didn't put ANY thought into it.
Of course not, don't be silly. This design language has been in the plans for years. The 2007 MDX has them and this was probably on the drawing boards back in 2005. The sports 4 concept had the exact same flares and that came out back in what, 2006?

One more thing, people seem to forget that the cars are designed years before they hit the roads. I believe that the styling of the Camry was influenced by the sports 4 concept and not the other way around.
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There will be official announcements by 10:00 ET tomorrow. XM will be giving a press conference on the NavWeather system in the TSX at that time.

I expect to see more pictures first thing tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by jlukja
...a bigger version:

Maybe I'm missing something but isn't this pic of the Euro Accord off Temple Vtec clearer? Pretty much the same, just diff' wheels. Front bumper looks less aggressive. But it's only a "ignore that car behind the curtain!" shot.

(click the pic)
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Ha ha! [booming voice] "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain....."[/booming voice]
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^^ don't blame me. I just blew up the pic posted by darmok.
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Originally Posted by surf4fun0418
I love those demotivators. I have about 8 on my wall.

You think we could use this one towards the styling of the new TSX????





Expresses the 09 TSX perfectly.
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Originally Posted by davidspalding
Maybe I'm missing something but isn't this pic of the Euro Accord off Temple Vtec clearer? Pretty much the same, just diff' wheels. Front bumper looks less aggressive. But it's only a "ignore that car behind the curtain!" shot.
Yeah. The pic I extracted is a TSX, not a Euro Accord, for whatever that's worth. The one thing that I was interested in is whether the taillights would be exactly the same as the Euro Accord, and they are.

Here's a question for y'all. Honda says the new Accord is going to beat the 3-series in Europe. Is that just because the 3-series sells with a much different engine mix across the pond? If BMW has to start bringing lesser-engined cars to the US because of CAFE, will the TSX look ahead of the times?
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Originally Posted by jlukja
^^ don't blame me. I just blew up the pic posted by darmok.
I have a feeling you were thinking of a different meaning for "blew up" than "enlarged"...
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Of course not, don't be silly. This design language has been in the plans for years. The 2007 MDX has them and this was probably on the drawing boards back in 2005. The sports 4 concept had the exact same flares and that came out back in what, 2006?

One more thing, people seem to forget that the cars are designed years before they hit the roads. I believe that the styling of the Camry was influenced by the sports 4 concept and not the other way around.

Hmmm....never thought of it like that.....
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Originally Posted by xenonhid
Expresses the 09 TSX perfectly.

I thought there might be someone else who thought so.
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Originally Posted by jlukja
^^ don't blame me. I just blew up the pic posted by darmok.
Not at all ... I was just thinking that the "behind the curtain" shot of the TSX isn't really any different than the Euro Accord. But it was nice of Darmok to extract it, and "Jalad" to blow it up.
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it's official, from vtec.net:
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=749126

just show us the damn interior shots already!
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So who is truly impressed by what they see so far?


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