The Dougler

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wtf kind of AZ user sells fake Teins? Sorry to hear that Kris and I hope you can work things out with him and get your money back. I wouldn't install those for safety reasons if I was in your shoes.

6MTUA5

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I guess I kind of asked for it by not asking for good pictures and checking if they were genuine or not, though I didn't really expect this from an AZ member.



Maybe one of the mods can threaten him with teh banstick is he doesn't refund

AMGala

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Tell Ron A about this, he will do his best.

fsttyms1

Yes if they are in fact not tein contact RonA

AMGala

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Let's not lynch mob the seller yet, a lot of people don't know that there are fake Teins being sold. It's easy to buy a set of fakes off eBay or some other unauthorized dealer and not even know it.

6MTUA5

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That's what I was going to say. Maybe the guy bought them for his car a while ago and was running them and never even knew. He said he is running Tein Basic now so he took the S. Tech off (which is why he was selling them in the first place).

Ron A

He did, and I asked him to let me know if he doesn't get a satisfactory reply from the seller in a reasonable amount of time. No sense jumping to conclusions if we don't have to.

AMGala

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6MTUA5

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When I was sending him PMs when I was originally interested in the springs, he always took a little while to get back to me b/c he rarely visits the forums. I still have his e-mail from when I sent payment through PayPal, so maybe I'll try him on that as well.

MurdaZ

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ugh, damn fakes...why would anyone make a product that can put ur life at risk...cosmestic mods, those hp booster mods, ok, but fake springs damn...


back on topic, again good luck on the swap..

6MTUA5

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He responded very quickly to the first PM I sent him about them being fake.
He said he got them off eBay about 6 months ago and never knew they were fake.


Then I sent him a more polite e-mail asking for a full refund to which he hasn't responded.

johnr5

let us know what happens

6MTUA5

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Some pics before we start tearing it apart. I already have the CAI gone.

johnr5

I remember that engine... memories

Loving that TL-S 6MT though

JCharged

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great progress Kris.

don't forget to post vids!

oh and

Sorry for the Hi-Jack but does anyone know which Helms manual to get?

I'm about to order one. I need the one with all the wiring diagrams and such.

jproy

Are you keeping the p-motor or swaping to the type-s motor? If Acura had made the '01-'03 TLs with a 6mt I would have bought it in heartbeat over the CL on practicality alone. Keep up the good work guys!

6MTUA5

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I'm keeping the TL-P motor

6MTUA5

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Vids of what? Driving after we're done?

JCharged

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The car starting, you shifting gears, Driving it. Whatever.

Just a little walkthrough of everything you changed to give everyone a glimpse of the 6-speed.

lilpimpinBT

Looking great bro! I am looking to do a swap also! I bought my body kit last week. I got a Spider! Im going to get some new rims sometime next week or 2. Than a few more hundered and ill be doing my swap. Whats some good sites that discuss the matter of swapping out. I'm new to this forum So I have no idea if its much discussion on the matter Here! I need to search a bit!

peace!
Thanks

Any tips or anything that will help in the build please let me know!

6MTUA5

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Spider kit?


One of these deals here?

Juancachorro

Aight im the one that sold those fucking springs...
Like someone said before " Let's not lynch mob the seller yet, a lot of people don't know that there are fake Teins being sold. It's easy to buy a set of fakes off eBay or some other unauthorized dealer and not even know it. " I answered all the fucking PM's and im willing to give him a refund.

and this is how all the PM's went...
Re: Springs

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Originally Posted by KSuchdeve
Originally Posted by Juancachorro
Originally Posted by KSuchdeve
I received the springs right on time today


Upon further inspection, it appears that they are fake


http://www.tein.com/counterfeit/index.html


http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/...hdeve/tein2.jpg



What's up with that?!?


I DIDNT KNOW THEY WERE MAKING KNOCK OFFS, IF YOU KNEW ABOUT IT YOU COULD'VE GAVE SOME INFO ABOUT IT...

I knew there were knockoffs being made, but didn't think to warn you that you might be selling fake ones.


Originally Posted by Juancachorro
Ok well Im fucked now and I hope u dont think I'm selling fake products. Thats not the way i deal with people. I would like to know what if i refund you half and you can keep them, or if u want the full refund u will ship them back to me.
Another thing bro if u want the full refund theres no problem with me, but I would like to get a week so I can put the money together because i used that money to finish paying for school.

Im sorry again but shit happens and i seriously had no idea about this.


If you read the thread where the guy pointed it out to me, I was saying you probably didn't know. I don't think you were trying to scam me or anything like that.

Now knowing that they're fake and seeing the rust on them makes me not want to use them so I want to get the full refund.


I'm sorry that you ended up getting fucked over and I unearthed these facts, but it all goes back to the original eBay seller.



i know that nobody knows here but im honest about my stuff... so to all the shit talkers please mind your own aight...

6MTUA5

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The whole conversation



Originally Posted by KSuchdeve
I received the springs right on time today
Upon further inspection, it appears that they are fake
http://www.tein.com/counterfeit/index.html
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/...hdeve/tein2.jpg
What's up with that?!?


Originally Posted by Juancachorro
Bro i seriously have no idea about that... i wish i had the receipt... i bought them through ebay about 6 months ago....

im going to try to find the receipt and ill send it to you....


Originally Posted by KSuchdeve
It is very unfortunate that you were ill informed when you made your purchase, but that does not take away from the fact that I purchased a knock-off product from you. I am requesting a full refund of the purchase price ASAP.


Thanks for your cooperation,
Kris


Originally Posted by Juancachorro
I DIDNT KNOW THEY WERE MAKING KNOCK OFFS, IF YOU KNEW ABOUT IT YOU COULD'VE GAVE SOME INFO ABOUT IT...


Originally Posted by KSuchdeve
I knew there were knockoffs being made, but didn't think to warn you that you might be selling fake ones.


Originally Posted by Juancachorro
YOUR SAYING THAT THEY ARE KNOW OFFS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE MODEL IS PRINTED ON THE SPRING?


Originally Posted by KSuchdeve
Yea it is not parallel to the spring and there is no TEIN logo on them either. Also, the paint is peeling off of them and they are rusted. Authentic Tein springs are powdercoated and don't peel like that.


Originally Posted by Juancachorro
Ok well Im fucked now and I hope u dont think I'm selling fake products. Thats not the way i deal with people. I would like to know what if i refund you half and you can keep them, or if u want the full refund u will ship them back to me.
Another thing bro if u want the full refund theres no problem with me, but I would like to get a week so I can put the money together because i used that money to finish paying for school.

Im sorry again but shit happens and i seriously had no idea about this.


Originally Posted by KSuchdeve
If you read the thread where the guy pointed it out to me, I was saying you probably didn't know. I don't think you were trying to scam me or anything like that.

Now knowing that they're fake and seeing the rust on them makes me not want to use them so I want to get the full refund.


I'm sorry that you ended up getting fucked over and I unearthed these facts, but it all goes back to the original eBay seller.




EDIT: I just realized your says everything too you just can't tell who's saying what so mine is a little easier to read .

6MTUA5

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...and he's giving me a refund so...


Back on to the swap

AMGala

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Good man, Juancachorro you are doing the right thing!

slavver01

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yeesh.... who woulda thought there'd be drama bout springs while doing a tranny swap

best of luck to both you guys settling this out

Juancachorro

i know im doing the right thing, but i just hate when people jump into conclusions...
If selling fake stuff was my hustle i wouldnt care getting banned cause i could keep the money. But thats not the way i do things.. so i hope everything is clear and that my name is still clean...

mcflyguy24

^I'm sure everything is cool bro.^ Stuff happens.

jproy

I’m curious Ksuchdeve,
How are you going to make the TLP motor and ECM work with the 6MT? I thought there were significant differences. You must be rewiring the engine harness to work with the 6MT ECM, right? I don’t know jack about it but I am curious. Also, If you are going through the trouble and expense of doing all this work for the conversion it make sense to me that you could dump your TLP motor for say $700 and pick up a Type-s motor for $800 as some others have done. I thing ThinJim got his auto type-s motor for $800 but I think he did have to buy the $500 crank position sensor and other trivial goodies. Regardless of what the realistic prices are, the difference couldn’t be more than $300 for the diff motors after you sold yours and that seems trivial given what you are already spending plus you would have a real Type-S. Like I said, I am not knocking just curious as to how you are thinking this through and how you are making the TLP motor work. If this has already been covered somewhere please point me in that direction. Please explain. Jim

jproy

I know you have heard it before but you are going to love the 6MT. It is as much fun to drive everytime as it was the first time. There are few things quite like rowing your own gears with that silkysmooth motor. Jim

6MTUA5

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I've mentioned it earlier, but I will again. I am getting a module made from a guy over on the Accord forums. This module splices into my current wiring harness and make my ECU work with the new trans. The signals that send your speed from the trans to the ECU are different between the two so the speedometer doesn't work. The module converts the signal from the new transmission into a language that the old ECU can recognize so it displays your speed correctly. It also corrects things like not having a reverse lockout and making v-tec work again.

Google "6 speed obsession" and click the first link for the whole thread about the modules. The price for the module was $700, but he is currently redesigning them and going about production differently to try and bring the costs down. We're not sure what the new price will be, but we will know in about a month when he is done producing the updated batch.


On price differences, me and Kris (fsttyms1) were talking about this a few pages back. If you look at the cost of the module ~$650 compared to the cost of going the other way ($800 TL-S motor, $500 CL-S6 sensors, $250 ECU, $600 wiring harnesses) it is quite a bit more to do the full swap .

jproy

Thank you for the info KSuchdeve! Enjoy the drive and props for the undertaking.

6MTUA5

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The auto shifter finally gone


Manual shifter in








What the dead pedal looks like under the carpet. Just 2 bolts and 1 nut to remove.

Razzi

wow, i've learned a dangerously amount of info from this thread. keep goin KS

6MTUA5

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...and I've got high res versions of all the pics I'm posting if anyone needs anything

Never Summer

Kris, did you just test fit the gear lever, or do you actually have the cables running to it from the transmission?

6MTUA5

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It's just bolted down. I haven't even taken out the auto cables yet, I'm going to wait til Joe gets here tomorrow.

jjashaa

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lol, serious..

6MTUA5

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Well, there was a misunderstanding and he isn't coming tomorrow. It's next week .

Never Summer

Really? Damn, that sucks. I was looking forward to seeing this thread throughout the week.