fsttyms1

Ok guys possible new plan.


Im thinking of taking my old block thats just laying around and turning it into a 3.5 type-s motor?????

FISHYTL

How would you convert a 3.2 to a 3.5?

fsttyms1

mdx crankshaft

stiletto

a bit back I noticed your pictures show the hand brake sticking way way way up. Is that normal (in other words, do the Cl-S6's hand brakes raise so vertical)? It just seams odd to me. maybe it could be adjusted a bit?

oh to have the knowledge, time and money.... car is deputamadre.

joe80055

Geez, you got that right! I can't even get the tranny out of my friend's car, even with the extra person to help out. lol I remember that you telling me that I could be able to use a jack to help raise and lower the transmission, but what kind of jack did you use? I've seen a few at sears, but I would think I'd need a jack where the top of the jack (the piece with the notches that makes contact with the car) has more of a larger surface area to better balance the tranny.

For a mod for $6k, I'd sure would do it if I had the time to, but since I'll be going away for school, I'll do this the next summer or upcoming vacation

Would this jack be good enough?

One more thing, explain the MDX Crankcase turning a 3.2 into a 3.5? I'm up for learning something new.

Costco

might as well if you aren't going to sell it or have extra money/time. if you went through with it then you would then have the only 2g 6-speed 3.5TL.

the 3.5L MDX engine has greater bore (how wide cylinder is) and stroke (distance piston goes up and down) so the MDX crankcase contains the larger crankshaft (which move the pistons). basically displacement is a formula which is something like bore x2 x stroke x # of cylinders. not sure exactly of the formula. someone else can go into better detail than me.

joe80055

Okay, just to make sure I have the right idea of this concept, correct me if i'm wrong but if the MDX crankshaft allows the pistons to move at a greater length, basically the size of each cylinder would be increased... so you get more into the combustion chamber, more fuel/air ignited, more power. Am I right? With that being so, other than the crankshaft being changed, would the piston rods fit on the crankshaft nicely and more so, would the ECU have to be replaced with another to accomodate the new mod or can it just be reset and be adjusted from there? Other than that, what other major changes would have to be made?

joe80055

Wow, in given time, this can be turned into a DIY thread for everyone else.. now that's something awesome to think about

fsttyms1

Ummm Yea when its set to the ON position

fsttyms1

there are some that have done teh 3.5 conversion in the past and in the CL conversion, and the extra displacement comes from the stroke which is in part with the crank and rods and pistons. All of which i would use new to achieve that

fsttyms1

Joe, yes that jack will work, No there wouldnt need to be any ECU change.

blk2001tlon19s

cool...

well I currently have some

mdx pistons/cl-s pistons/cl-s rods at my engine builder if you want them. I'm not going to need them for my new motor. Let me know.

fsttyms1

K i need to look into whats needed, and what funds i have left for playing with (after paying taxes on the hse this past month)

DLCU2

Wow..you are a god fsttyms1. I'm not sure if you mentioned/answered this before..but approx. how much did this whole project cost you?

fsttyms1

5500-6000 or so. i havent added it up lately, but that includes the type-s motor too

blk2001tlon19s

well you can have the cl-s pistons if you want them man, I don't need them if you decide to do it. They would give you the highest compression ratio. Just let me know.

Costco

Was it a TL-S or a CL-S engine? if CL was it the 6-speed version? i know they are both J32A2 but are there any differences?

TallestTSX

So when do we get to see pictures of the finished, cleaned, washed, and waxed version?

fsttyms1

Humm, i may have to take you up on that. the more i think about it the more i like the idea of a 3.5 build..

you need to read the thread better.
The motor was from a CL-S auto. And as i discovered there were some differences in sensors. some expensive sensors. (about 1000$$ in parts differences)

You dont. The car doesnt look any different from the outside. I just take pictures of the inside now!

derrick

fsttyms,

Did you buy any 'Type-S' badges yet? ... technically, it would apply for most of your car.

fsttyms1

Nope. Im going to keep it for the most part en burrito I am going to start looking for more type s stuff. Like seats and steering wheel since i have 200k on the existing ones. Only problem is the interior color of my car isnt a color they made in the type-s Looks like ill be switching or customizing that too

derrick

Why stop at half-way? Maybe you can find a Canadian 'A-spec' interior ... ... I knew a guy who was gonna write-off his car and I thought about the A-spec interior ... only for a moment.

Wait ... your exterior is the dark green, right? Nevermind ... that blue / black 2-tone would look hideous.

fsttyms1

Ive got laguna, its a greenish grey.

I have a feeling ill have to look for eiter a tan or black interior and do some mixing and matching

mr.motoring

If you decide to do it, do it now and finish with the distinction of being the first unofficial 3.5TL Type-S 6-speed before the arrival of the 07 TL-S.

boku

iTrader: (1)

Would it really be the first? I know acura legends that have 3.5s but has no1 done it on a TL yet???

Either way DOET DOET DOET!!!!

etxxz

CONGRANTS FTTSY...!!! wish i knew a tenth of the things you know about this car...pfffff if that.

we want to see some rims and suspension on your thing man....and nos and -S interior and S/C ontop of the first adj cam pulley and... u get the drift.

NIKE says:

fsttyms1

i wont be the first 3.5 type-s. Austin did that a few years back. but i would b the first with a manual.

No NOS. i dont like nos. to me its usless. A SC is far better!

SSMTL01

have you thought about just doing a vanity plate like "TLS6SPD" instead of the badging?

Elementz

I really hope you are not running on stock rims and tires from a traction standpoint ....

Anyway congrats man. That is definitely the best mod of all time for a 2g TL.

fsttyms1

Yea i still need to come up with a license plate. I like the one you listed

Why yes i am. No money left for rims Smaller and lighter= faster

derrick

Tirerack was closing out their OZ Superleggera rims ... he got a set of 17"s with Pilot Sports for $1500, taxes in! (Remember ... this is Canada with 14% tax ...)

Costco

sorry I can't keep up with this thread I started reading it around page 20-something and I was like wtf. anyway I thought you were running on F1 GS-D3s? if you were spinning in 2nd and 3rd with those then

fsttyms1

I am, but i just took off my snow tires today, so spinning should be less a issue now. There was no reason before to remove the snows.

HBaJ

then get 3.5TL Type-S badges , but ud have to get 3.5TL made since its one piece

Vicman17

Congrats on a good mod. Great work!

03TL_S

qtr mile times yet??? dyno?

fsttyms1

No and No

joe80055

YES! finally.. you ran out of money! now take a quick break from the mods until your next paycheck. lol

TL_TypeS

Your new license plate should be " 6SPD TL "

fsttyms1

There are PLENTY of mods that i can do that dont require much if any of $$$ Any thing that i can cut and weld, bondo,fiberglass, paint, ect i can do for almost nothing due to my large supply of materials