i hear a slight whine noise when under load and light to medium throttle.
sounds like its coming from under the shifter area.

goes away when i let go the throttle.
at first i thought it was noise cancelling acting up but i unplugged the module and still there

 

It may be input output shaft bearings in transmission. Do u have 2005-2007 RL or TL automatic?
Basically the case bores wear out and gears play this whining music. Site below does not list RL trannys but it happens now and then various honda transmissions. I may be mistaken of course. Did not hear the whining noise. It's not a big deal. If u want it fixed need to remove tranny and send case to slauson transmissions in California to reinforce bearing bores. It may be some other bearing . But definitely sounds like transmission. Or it may be intake air leak somewhere)

http://www.searchautoparts.com/motorage/powertrain-pro-automatic-transmission/these-transmissions-need-quit-their-whining

 

Iz u haz cold air intake kit or something of that sort? Often things are slopily installed. And u have an air leak. Usually a narrow crack can whistle or whine

 

i have a nice short ram with vstack
i can definitely hear the intake
but the whine seems to be coming from pass side floor under shifter console

 

I think it's transmission. Try driving any 2005 or 2006 odyssey honda with 100k miles or more. Most have this weak tranny case issue. So if your wHine is the same then it's transmission bearing bores. Bearings I've heard are really good. Never fail. Just tranny cases.

 

https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...ulleys-894015/

 

Can you narrow down any speed ranges that it happens at? The prop shaft bearing is notorious for doing what you're describing at about 35-40mph and 60-70(?) mph, especially on the '05-'06s.

 

MrVTEC, the RL rarely has transmission issues except for maybe the torque converter. While I appreciate you wanting to help and I understand that many Hondas are similar, throwing out random ideas of things that go wrong in other cars is not helpful. It's okay to not have an answer and wait for someone else with the experience in their RL to try to answer.

 

yes but that's sounds a lot like tranny transaxle bearing issue. whining under load .. not when making a turn on low speed or other situations. As I said I could be wrong. But it's not a random idea)

 

I'm reading that basically new driveshaft.. which is lame..
why is there no way to replace anything on this car
its ritarded.... everything is one piece from control arms and ball joints to 145 dollar door handles.

even Mercedes door handles are 35 bucks a piece. I'm getting tired of this rather quickly no wonder this car didn't sell that well. I wouldn't pay that much dough even if I was rich. that's called wasting money...

now wooosaaa

it sounds like when you have a ground loop when you install an aftermarket stereo that's why I thought it was something to do with noise cancelling system
and yes it seems to be between 30-40mph I finally found the other threads about this problem and all of them point to replacing the whole driveshaft..
very poor design there. replacing an 1800 dollar part because 30 dollar bearing failed

 

It was a decent rant.

5/10

 

Or you can just turn the music up, there are no documented driveshaft failures due to bearing noise. Just a thought...

 

Not a bad rant indeed. Try car-part.com.. and don't forget to bargain. In winter they are very negotiable. I would get a drive shaft from pepboys with life time warranty. Maybe autozone duralast will work fine. Mostly bad experience with duralast stuff.. pepboys branded stuff is much better. New will eliminate the chance of having same issue again.

Good thing about lifetime warranty local is that u can swap things on their parking lot at no cost. Starter, alternator.. etc.

I'd still look into trying to remove that bearing. It would have been extremely stupid to disign drive shaft with non serviceable 30$ bearing.

 

yea it was a quickie rant didn't have time to prepare it just came to me
I only owned this for about a month..
had a type-r del sol and gsr 4 door before this. enjoyed tha F out of both cars.. a.k.a. red line at every light for years without issues or without worrying that something gonna break and cost me 2000 dollars to fix..

this thing I'm like. sht. vtak just kicked in yoo... damn I hope it make it to redline no joy of vtec anymore very mixed feelings from 4000-6800rpm with this one

everywhere I see the bearing is not removeable. theres no part number for that bearing assembly only complete driveshaft ...
I can buy one on ebay for few 100 bucks but its a gamble of buying exact same thing


and I just ordered 2012 rl wheels that have resonators on them and continental dws tires to make this thing ride even quieter. I want it to ride like butter but its gonna be pointless if I have a dental drill next to my ear at all times while everything else is very quiet
I'm this close to leaving Honda world after this one to switch to a Toyota.


PS. I love the RL it feels solid over all is an amazing machine from unlikely source.. its just the WTF was Honda thinking. every time I go and try to fix something its like a roadblock made by Honda.
everything is integrated everything is one piece with no repairable parts.

 

Very understandable. All cars have issues.. but overall I think it's a much better option than euro cars.. those are pocket drainers. Much more engineering flaws than on jap cars. Not failure due to mileage or abuse. . But flaws in design. And really slow times of response.. it's all about style and looks on euro cars. I'll never buy euro stuff again ) unless they pay me to fix their mistakes. Having said that hondas reputation was dented with their auto tannies.. vcm on newer engines.
I can go on and on) disassembled and have been inside many bimmers, few honda civics, and 3-4 odysseys. All in all much more diligence in honda

 

The drivetrain is stout. There is no concern at any RPM. Spoon took an RL, tuned the engine to 320 HP and didn't bother touching the drivetrain. The raced the shit out of it, and what failed was an electrical system after taking a hit from debris on the track. Make sure your oil is serviced and go red line it.

As for the driveshaft, the SH-AWD is heavy. It adds somewhere around 400 lbs to the car IIRC which is not chump change. It also drags on the engine considerably. Like 20-25% drivetrain loss compared to 15% in FWD cars. They used a carbon fiber driveshaft to cut down on overall system weight and drag. Why the bearing isn't serviceable or if nobody just hasn't figured it out yet, . But there's some background for why they chose what they did.

The prop shaft whine is made worse by colder weather. Many people say it is only noticeable before the car warms up, so maybe that is some consolation to you.

 

I've been hearing that whine as the temp continues to drop recently. Goes off for 3-5 seconds then goes away, just long enough to let me know that winters coming… every morning

 

When you buy a flagship car, particularly a Honda, you are buying a test bed for new technologies and engineering. What succeeds will trickle down into the rest of the models as proven and reliable. Your RL was the first introduction of SHAWD, and aside from the pop shaft bearing issue affliction to some RLs, SHAWD had proven pretty bulletproof. Atop of that your specific RL was 1s model year of 2nd Gen RL. It is typical for 1st year releases to have issues that typically are addressed by second year or MMC. When I sold my 06 RL it was, to date, the most reliable car I have ever owned, regardless of the new technology introduced in the 2nd Gen RL. And following that understanding of 1st year models and flagship test bed, I waited to purchase my RLX Sport Hybrid until the 2016 model year. It has been flawless since deliver regardless of again, a test bed for Sport Hybrid drive-train. That was part of the risk I assumed buying this new tech - in both my RL and RLX, even if engineered by Honda.

If you want a car with loads of options on replacement parts, you buy an Accord or a Civic, maybe even a TL. But a used low volume ground breaking car will have little aftermarket options and little experience of self service to which you can be referred.

 

Anyone see a complete bearing failure? If the most I need to worry about is probably a whining noise until 300k miles, I'm used to that...

 

im wondering if that bearing can be rebuilt without taking it off the shaft

 

Pretty sure it's all one piece which is why the whole shaft has to be replaced..


As for a documented failure.. not that i've ever seen


If it ain't broke.. don't fix it..

 

Soo many shaft jokes no one's touching..

 

But back to the thread: when I replaced my engine mounts, I found that the shaft noise resolved until a few months after. Perhaps jacking up the engine slightly reorients the bearings?

 

how do I tell torque converter noise from shaft bearing noise?

 

Shaft bearing noise will be speed dependent since it spins at the same rate as the wheels. TC noise will likely be rev dependent since it spins at the same rate as the engine. You should be able to replicate the TC noise at many speeds. The shaft noise only really happens around 45 MPH I believe.

 

I have this same whine. 07 tech, It is the trans in this case and mine. I chased this whine years ago, dealer replaced rear diff under warranty, still whines. Only at about 65 70mph, radio off, you have to almost try and listen for it. I drive a lot with radio off, and that's when it's heard. I've gotten use to it, its annoying and a sad fact to these trans, just talk to a trans shop and they'll school you on this Honda type trans issue in Odyssey and some early model MDX.

Try this, when you hear the whine, downshift into 4th gear, whine goes away. Also, when you hear the whine, press the gear selector up a little bit, towards neutral, gear shifter leans on neutral, but when you put slight pressure on gear selector towards neutral, but keep it in D, the whine goes away. Whine is only in 5th gear at 70mph in my RL. I doubt the 6 speed RL trans whines but I haven't confirmed. Trans shop tech said they fix this issue all the time but it'll come back. Nature of this model trans.

All cars have flaws, it's just if you're able to accept them or not. The RL is a very reliable smooth safe ride...That has a whining trans. I don't feel like the trans will ever fail me, it's just off slightly that it whines only in 5th gear. I'm happy with my RL even with this one issue.

On the European car subject, I purchased an 04 BMW m3 6speed with 105k mi. First Euro car for me, and it's a dream to drive. It hugs the road and the faster you go it drives straight and true. I adjusted the valves and Im gonna tackle the suspension this spring. Don't be scared of maintenance, it's expensive if you don't do the work, so it all depends what you're willing to try.

 

mine is rather loud. it goes away as soon as I let go the throttle

and gets louder when I step on the throttle.

 

Mine was pretty consistent last night after doing some doughnuts in the snow…

 

Mine gets real bad at redline in 5th

 

Redline in 5th? Pics* or it didn't happen.





*taken by passenger preferably

 

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ok a little update.

1 it finally got cold enough for me to hear the shaft bearing noise. very distinct and loud and cuts out as suddenly as it cuts in always around 30-40mph

2 the actual whine I was hearing was in part from my short ram custom intake staggered with V stack that was sucking massive air. and it resonates on every car from throttle plate angle..
I put stock airbox back in and most of it went away. but I still hear a very slight whine which is probably transmission related


I'm waiting for continental DWS06 to put on my 2014 rlx wheels with helmholts resonators so I can really hear all the noises lol

 

yea.. I got sucked into that "German engineering " "bmw owner" sales pitch without even trying s2000.. I regret it very much. Anyway glad u enjoy your car now.. need lots of special tools.. vanos seals replacement. . Trailing arm bushings. Rear shock mount reinforcement. Cooling system replacement..etc etc ooof. getting rid of my last bimmer was one of the happiest days of my life. Had 3 of them. Diy diy and more diy. )life is too short to spend it under a bmw fixing things. Should have bought s2000 back when I was into fast driving

 

Can confirm mine makes the same noise around 35-40 when it's cold.