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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Exclamation New Motor Mount Options Update

I just want to pass along an update I got regarding another source for performance motor mounts.

These mounts will be from a new source and if things go well with a few field tests we could see them in a few weeks.

Unlike the Innovative Mounts (IM), these have gone through a more rigorous design and testing process. I am told the manufacture has tested them on the 2nd gen CL/TL, again unlike IM who said they'd work because they worked on Accords and our 2nd gens were just like them.

These new mounts have passed the manufactures fitment and functionality testing and have been sent to a couple of field testers. Assuming the field tests go well, we could see an offering for them by the end of the month (July). That said, I may ask for a limited production field test for a few of us. If we can get that, we'll need to identify who'll do the testing. But don't all jump on this as there'll need to be some control over specific qualifications of who does the testing. We'll probably look at who can do their own, what skill levels they have, who's circumstances provide the best test case, etc.

Anyway, keep your fingers crossed

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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Bout time, I need better motor mounts cause im boosted and the stock ones are terrible. Lets hope we dont run into any issues with these ones.
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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Very interested. Share the N-FO.
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Hasport?

Im interested in being a tester. Ive got an 03 6 speed. Right now Im running 80A poly filled OEM mounts and NRG torque dampers front and rear. The rear poly is beginning to press out. Im in VA, and its incredibly humid in the summer and in the 90s, and in the winter it gets down to the 20s at times, so I can test the temp properties of the poly.

If you need any other info let me know.
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Also available. My mounts are currently poly filled 60A. My mods are in my sig
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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I am in for an auto test. I have all the tools needed to do the r&r and am willing to do whatever beta test responses the manufacturer needs.
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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I'm in for testing. Cl-s6, oem mounts. Nrg front dampner. Beat the hell out of my car. Take it to tracks when I can. Have the tools and knowledge to change them out myself
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Forgot to add that I do all my own installs.
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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This sounds nice =)
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Sounds good...just be careful to keep this thread clean so it doesn't get shut down.
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i got 6 speed too :P and i must look at my mounts if they are ok lol
Old Jul 14, 2009 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rajca
I'm in for testing. Cl-s6, oem mounts. Nrg front dampner. Beat the hell out of my car. Take it to tracks when I can. Have the tools and knowledge to change them out myself
Doesn't the NRG Engine Damper do a better job at controlling engine torque than stiffer mounts? Or is there something else these mounts are supposed to do. On V8's or any RWD with N/S engines, we used a strap, chain, turnbuckle or threaded tube with rod ends bolted from the head to the frame to prevent the engine from torquing over. The strap had some stretch to it so it didn't have any vibration.
I would think the best thing is the NRG engine dampers, if that's not enough, add another one to the drivers side of the engine.

You'll have to use a lot stiffer engine mounts because they mount closer to the crank centerline. The farther away you go the more leverage you'll have so the NRG dampner doesn't have to be that stiff and won't transmit as much vibration.

What am I missing here?
Old Jul 14, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Doesn't the NRG Engine Damper do a better job at controlling engine torque than stiffer mounts?
No. I put the dampers on back when I had OEM non-poly filled mounts on. I barely noticed them. I put the stiffer mounts and noticed a difference right away. I love my current mounts, but theres room for improvement.

Id love to get some stiffer mounts too. Right now Ive got 80A, and its relatively soft for my tastes. Im its because most of the mount is the OEM rubber. Full 80A poly mounts should be stiffer then mine, but I may want 94A instead.
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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^ . . one more week . . . cross your fingers that we'll have some good news.

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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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I thought I posted in here. I got a 6 speed with access to a lift. My 6 speed is in a tl though. So if you guys need a swap car then I'm down
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Well fudge

The manufacture started the testing with the 3rd gens. That means it'll be another 3 weeks before we hear anything on the 2nd gens.

I let them know that they should have started with us since the 3rd gens were fine and we were the ones in dire need.

Wish I had better news . . . at least it's not bad news like they aren't working.

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Not the end of the world, I am ready to test when they are.
Old Jul 28, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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same here.
Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RUF87
Well fudge

The manufacture started the testing with the 3rd gens. That means it'll be another 3 weeks before we hear anything on the 2nd gens.

I let them know that they should have started with us since the 3rd gens were fine and we were the ones in dire need.

Wish I had better news . . . at least it's not bad news like they aren't working.

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tell 'em to throw radius rod bushings in the mix
Old Jul 28, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by typeR
tell 'em to throw radius rod bushings in the mix
Will do, but just to make sure what you are asking about . . . are you wanting just a polyurathane aftermarket bushing, or the rod as well.

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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the bushing not the rod
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i'm in for testing
Old Jul 28, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Not the end of the world, I am ready to test when they are.
Originally Posted by typeR
tell 'em to throw radius rod bushings in the mix
Agreed
Old Jul 29, 2009 | 12:03 AM
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Mark, this is for all 3 mounts, yes?
Old Jul 29, 2009 | 02:33 AM
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So whats the big secret about who the manufacture is? Whats the big deal? Can you say yet? Is this for 6 spds, or just autos?
Old Jul 29, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike
Mark, this is for all 3 mounts, yes?
Yes, we don't want to mix and match new good products with bad IM products.

As for the secret, it's not really a big secret. They just don't want to get bombarded with folks calling or pm'ing them about the status. They saw what happened with the Innovative mounts and wanted to have everything sorted out before announcing the product. In the case of Innovative . . . they deserved all the calls and emails.

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Originally Posted by typeR
tell 'em to throw radius rod bushings in the mix
I just installed the Ingalls ball joint and noticed the upper control arm is very weak. With it out of the car I could twist and flex it by hand. If you install harder radius rod bushings, the upper control arm will flex even more. You either need a stronger arm or box in the OE arm. Seems like everything on this car is soft and squishy for that luxury car ride.
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the bushing not the rod
Okay, clarification please.

I couldn't find a diagram on this, so I want to verify if this applies to all 2nd gens or 6speeds only. They just want to be sure.

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Its the bushing that holds the rod into the crossmember. The auto and 6MT are the same.

Numbers 10 and 11

Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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. . . . well rats . . . it's going to be a couple more weeks before we know when they'll be released . . . they found a couple of 'things' (didn't say what) that need to be tweaked and then retest them. If that goes well . . a couple of sets will be sent to a vendor for testing/signoff . . . and then if that goes well we should see announcement by mid September . . . maybe in time for my birthday?

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[QUOTE=civicdrivr;11161727]Its the bushing that holds the rod into the crossmember. The auto and 6MT are the same.

Numbers 10 and 11

Thanks for the clarification.

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Any word on testing?
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i was down to be a test dummy. but just got a ticket for 45 over. and court is end of September. so depending on the price i may or may not be a tester
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Originally Posted by Rajca
i was down to be a test dummy. but just got a ticket for 45 over. and court is end of September. so depending on the price i may or may not be a tester
Ouch.

Im still in to be a tester. Hopefully these will be available for testing when I pull the motor. It will make installation 10x easier.
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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i will test them as well, currently have the IM mounts in that appear to have doughed, but vibrations are not bad yet. also have poly filled trans mounts.
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Originally Posted by Rajca
i was down to be a test dummy. but just got a ticket for 45 over. and court is end of September. so depending on the price i may or may not be a tester
get a lawyer. you dont want to handle this yourself. trust me
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damn so no release yet huh? im trying to get new mounts asap.
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any updates on this yet



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