The motor mount thread
06-02-2011, 01:09 PM
#641
I just did a quick sketch of the factory mount and our XLR8 side mount and the holes are larger on our mount and pretty much on center. We installed this same side mount in a local car and all the side mounts were made from the same jig.
If you feel it's off slightly bore out the hole but put a larger washer to spread the force of the bolt when tightened down.
If you feel it's off slightly bore out the hole but put a larger washer to spread the force of the bolt when tightened down.
I don't feel that it's off, it IS off. My picture is taken with the mount flat, front holes perfectly lined up, no engine load, and half the hole is covered by the mount. There is no little amount of twisting, pulling, prying that can alleviate this.
I'll just drill it out and use a washer as you stated then.
Last edited by Neejay; 06-02-2011 at 01:20 PM.
06-02-2011, 02:36 PM
#643
Exactly what I said to do lol.
06-02-2011, 02:53 PM
#644
I'll take a video this weekend of what Im talking about.
There is no room to play. The mount's base rests basically against the shock-tower well. if I enlarged all the holes, then I'd need to slide the mount towards me for the rear hole to be able to get a screw started...which I can't do because there is no room to slide the mount.
The only option is to enlarge this hole ONLY and use a washer.
There is no room to play. The mount's base rests basically against the shock-tower well. if I enlarged all the holes, then I'd need to slide the mount towards me for the rear hole to be able to get a screw started...which I can't do because there is no room to slide the mount.
The only option is to enlarge this hole ONLY and use a washer.
06-02-2011, 04:06 PM
#645
If 2 holes line up Don't drill out all holes.
You will ruin the mount.
The mount itself can not be repositioned far as I know.
Their is no load on the side mount and drilling all 3 and attempting to reposition will make it a load carrying mount since you would be like adding preload yourself to the bushing and probablly wont last long at all.
Just drill the one out and if it is too close to the edge where the metal left is to thin then the mount is garbage.
And would need to be redesigned
You will ruin the mount.
The mount itself can not be repositioned far as I know.
Their is no load on the side mount and drilling all 3 and attempting to reposition will make it a load carrying mount since you would be like adding preload yourself to the bushing and probablly wont last long at all.
Just drill the one out and if it is too close to the edge where the metal left is to thin then the mount is garbage.
And would need to be redesigned
Last edited by richardparker; 06-02-2011 at 04:12 PM.
06-02-2011, 05:07 PM
#646
If 2 holes line up Don't drill out all holes.
You will ruin the mount.
The mount itself can not be repositioned far as I know.
Their is no load on the side mount and drilling all 3 and attempting to reposition will make it a load carrying mount since you would be like adding preload yourself to the bushing and probablly wont last long at all.
Just drill the one out and if it is too close to the edge where the metal left is to thin then the mount is garbage.
And would need to be redesigned
You will ruin the mount.
The mount itself can not be repositioned far as I know.
Their is no load on the side mount and drilling all 3 and attempting to reposition will make it a load carrying mount since you would be like adding preload yourself to the bushing and probablly wont last long at all.
Just drill the one out and if it is too close to the edge where the metal left is to thin then the mount is garbage.
And would need to be redesigned
06-02-2011, 05:28 PM
#647
If it's going to be open on the side to look like a C then send that crap back.
Honestly that's poorly designed.
Streching the hole would be no biggie but if the hole is going to run right off the piece send it back.
Honestly that's poorly designed.
Streching the hole would be no biggie but if the hole is going to run right off the piece send it back.
Last edited by richardparker; 06-02-2011 at 05:31 PM.
06-03-2011, 01:01 AM
#652
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I'll take a video this weekend of what Im talking about.
There is no room to play. The mount's base rests basically against the shock-tower well. if I enlarged all the holes, then I'd need to slide the mount towards me for the rear hole to be able to get a screw started...which I can't do because there is no room to slide the mount.
The only option is to enlarge this hole ONLY and use a washer.
There is no room to play. The mount's base rests basically against the shock-tower well. if I enlarged all the holes, then I'd need to slide the mount towards me for the rear hole to be able to get a screw started...which I can't do because there is no room to slide the mount.
The only option is to enlarge this hole ONLY and use a washer.
06-03-2011, 01:12 PM
#654
I just did a quick sketch of the factory mount and our XLR8 side mount and the holes are larger on our mount and pretty much on center. We installed this same side mount in a local car and all the side mounts were made from the same jig.
If you feel it's off slightly bore out the hole but put a larger washer to spread the force of the bolt when tightened down.
If you feel it's off slightly bore out the hole but put a larger washer to spread the force of the bolt when tightened down.
06-05-2011, 08:10 PM
#655
06-06-2011, 03:42 PM
#656
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got all three 62a mounts installed today thanks to one fsttyms1 and his nutty friend. Install went fine with the exception of mounts just being shitty to replace. One of the side mount holes was off a tad but with the combination of loosening some bolts lifting/lowering the engine and a little pry action on the mount the side went on fine. The rear mount was where we had an issue and had to enlarge the holes on the mount a tiny bit to make them line up good.
Driving impressions......obviously there is going to be more vibrations, but while driving I had no issues whatsoever, highway speeds or around town, little more vibrations than normal but that is to be expected.
Now for the bad news, I am having a lot of vibrations when sitting at idle at say a stop light. Everything is vibrating, steering wheel, front seats, you can pretty much hear it vibrating. Not sure what to think of this, hoping Josh can chime in....should I let them break in a little??? Honestly the thought of having it vibrate like this may drive me to put the oem rear mount back on to see if that helps.
Driving impressions......obviously there is going to be more vibrations, but while driving I had no issues whatsoever, highway speeds or around town, little more vibrations than normal but that is to be expected.
Now for the bad news, I am having a lot of vibrations when sitting at idle at say a stop light. Everything is vibrating, steering wheel, front seats, you can pretty much hear it vibrating. Not sure what to think of this, hoping Josh can chime in....should I let them break in a little??? Honestly the thought of having it vibrate like this may drive me to put the oem rear mount back on to see if that helps.
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06-06-2011, 04:08 PM
#657
You should not have any difulculty installing/do any lifting ,lower or prying on the side mount at all. You want that one to fit nice.
Front or rear,most likely.
After a few days I would check your mounts and make sure they are still tight and the side mount is not getting worn.
Installing the side mount like that is asking for issues.
They are on so,
Are you getting less wheel hop and quicker acceleration ?
That's what people are wanting to know.
Front or rear,most likely.
After a few days I would check your mounts and make sure they are still tight and the side mount is not getting worn.
Installing the side mount like that is asking for issues.
They are on so,
Are you getting less wheel hop and quicker acceleration ?
That's what people are wanting to know.
06-06-2011, 04:16 PM
#658
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You should not have any difulculty installing/do any lifting ,lower or prying on the side mount at all. You want that one to fit nice.
Front or rear,most likely.
After a few days I would check your mounts and make sure they are still tight and the side mount is not getting worn.
Installing the side mount like that is asking for issues.
They are on so,
Are you getting less wheel hop and quicker acceleration ?
That's what people are wanting to know.
Front or rear,most likely.
After a few days I would check your mounts and make sure they are still tight and the side mount is not getting worn.
Installing the side mount like that is asking for issues.
They are on so,
Are you getting less wheel hop and quicker acceleration ?
That's what people are wanting to know.
No wheelhop whatsoever, I noticed that right away, shifting seemed crisper, probably better acceleration hard to tell, did not have much opportunity to get good runs in. They felt good......when not sitting at idle.
06-06-2011, 04:36 PM
#660
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06-06-2011, 04:39 PM
#661
Suzuka Master
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06-06-2011, 04:54 PM
#663
You should not have any difulculty installing/do any lifting ,lower or prying on the side mount at all. You want that one to fit nice.
Front or rear,most likely.
After a few days I would check your mounts and make sure they are still tight and the side mount is not getting worn.
Installing the side mount like that is asking for issues.
They are on so,
Are you getting less wheel hop and quicker acceleration ?
That's what people are wanting to know.
Front or rear,most likely.
After a few days I would check your mounts and make sure they are still tight and the side mount is not getting worn.
Installing the side mount like that is asking for issues.
They are on so,
Are you getting less wheel hop and quicker acceleration ?
That's what people are wanting to know.
What combo could possibly work out? I haven't installed any of mine yet.
This is my point too. I understand sliding/twisting/drilling the mount to line up IF it wouldn't change the geometry/load of the urethane, but that's not the case here. The side mount should fit without forcing anything. Front/rear, yeah of course.
06-06-2011, 05:12 PM
#665
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Well, I just got off the phone with Excelerate and he had told me what I kind of assumed is that I should let them settle in for a few weeks, and see how they are. The other thing which I was not aware of was that the center bolt on the front and rear mount should only be torqued to 35ft/lbs, which I believe we did
Last edited by 2003TL-S; 06-06-2011 at 05:20 PM.
06-06-2011, 05:14 PM
#666
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Well, I just got off the phone with Excelerate and he had told me what I kind of assumed is that I should let them settle in for a few weeks, and see how they are. The other thing which I was not aware of was that the center bolt on the front and rear mount should only be torqued to 35ft/lbs, which I do not believe they were.
06-06-2011, 05:30 PM
#668
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Im having second thoughts about running these as well. Ill give them a try though, but if they dont work properly, Im back to OEM.
06-06-2011, 05:32 PM
#669
Suzuka Master
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Excellent questions!
I supect as the experimentation/reviews start with this new product there will be many opinions and, perhaps, set-up combinations.
Last edited by zeta; 06-06-2011 at 05:43 PM.
06-06-2011, 09:27 PM
#671
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Good thing is my oem front and oem rear mounts still looked good (no leaking anywhere), it was my side that was blown to smitherines.
06-07-2011, 03:00 AM
#672
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Thread Starter
can you pls post a vid of the car @ idle? ruf posted one and it was horrible. the vibes were so bad in my cls that i went back to oem on the rear and that cleard the problem up. still using the innovative crap on the side and front. they need to be replaced soon.
06-07-2011, 08:36 AM
#676
Senior Moderator
oh ya the guy that showed pic of mis alligned side mount ... looks like it would fit fine to me ...dont make holes bigger ...if its already pinned againt strut tower shave the out side an 1/8th inch ... the holes already look bigger than bolts and its just not off by much at all
06-07-2011, 08:43 AM
#678
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