dom

Just pointing out that this isn't the thread for that discussion.

tsxhondatuner

so you have to pay more for auto now?

Newplay1

Also rear sway bar went from 14mm to 15mm?

ostrich

Isn't it interesting that the SportShift (automatic) is now an "additional cost"? Does anyone have the pricing yet?

I am salivating over the new equipment, but the main question is, have they fixed any of the rattle yet?

STL

Who says it was 14mm in 2004? My 2004 brochure says 15mm.

rivvin

Artic Blue Metallic? What's that going to look like? I just bought the Artic blue pearl. Or was it always metallic? And, what does metallic paint job look like anyways?

kenji4861

I think it's just a mistype. If it was a different color.. it'd be more obvious and be called something like.. "VIVID BLUE" or "ETERNAL BLUE PEARL"...

biker

Virtually every car is that way - maybe this is a backdoor way for Acura to raise the price.

dom

Glad I bought an 04 then.

STL

I bet it's just a typo. Even if that is not the case, I don't care because I'm going for the 6MT!

fdl

Maybe the auto wont go up in price, but the 6MT will come down?

STL

It would be nice, but with the way the TSX is selling (and the good press it keeps getting) I really doubt it!

acoga

Hopefully, never. While the TSX has ample power for normal use, it would get awfully bogged down by the addition of an AWD system's weight (I shudder to think of it, considering the level of bitching we heard here when the '05 added a passenger seat motor!) and increased frictional losses. .

Sure, they could up the power to compensate, but the combo of AWD+bigger motor = good-bye sub-$30K TSX.

I could see AWD on the TL--it would kill the torque steer. But not on the TSX.

jcg878

what he said

STL

They only way I see AWD on a TSX is by adding IMA to the rear wheels. That being said, I do believe there is already an AWD version of this car in Europe (where it's an Accord).

tsxhondatuner

i would never get automatic anyways so i dont care

dom

Thats right and it uses the 2.0L 160HP engine shared with the Base RSX.

gray_w_black

Last year new pricing came out Oct. 3 does anyone know WHEN pricing for '05 TSX's will come out?

RWalker2

One more mpg for 05? At least they fixed the gear ratios a bit for a better final drive gear ?

ostrich

I actually would like to see a substantial increase in the pricing of the TSX, because:

1. Then it would make me feel better that I bought a 2004 model with less equipment (but a lower price!) LOL!!!

2. Some people may then stop complaining that it's an "econo-box"!!! LOL!!!

Seriously, the price probably will go up a little bit, but not by so much that it will then cannibalize the TL.

biker

If history is any indication, look for about a $500 increase. Considering some of the new things included the car will be about the same price or less in real terms.

freddybrown

Anyone know when the 2005s will actually hit the showrooms? I have only heard a rumor that it will be October 23, but that is not confirmed.

Trying to decide on whether to pull the trigger now on a 2004 or wait later for the 2005s. Leaning towards the 2005 not only for the new features, but better resale value down the road.

zzzed

the closest dealer - Orr Acura in Shreveport, La, told me their initial order , placed about 2 weeks ago, should not be here until Nov. Damn.......Thats 2 months.... oh well, those lighted steering wheel controls better be cool.....

rutdogg

I heard early October from the internet sales department at Acura of Portland. if they are right or not, but I think I'll wait.

ccins

I have ordered a 2005. I just talked to my dealer and they have received confirmation of a November build date. (They expect it to be built early Nov with a mid to late Nov. delivery date. All TSX are built in Japan. I placed my order about 2 months ago and my vehicle will be the first 05 TSX delivered to my dealer.

ccins

For reference to expected pricing, the RSX is up about $250. Also, there is some "buzz" that there may be a different price for manuals and automatics.

STL

This seems to reinforce what I said before, I expect no MSRP change for the 2005 models. Look at all the changes on the RSX and they only raise it $250! I remember back when the 2001 model S2000 came out, its MSRP remained the same even though several features were upgraded or made standard -- only the destination charge went up (and only slightly).

biker

The 6MT will stay the same while the AT will be up $400.

knthornt

Biker... Is that actually confirmed? Where did you hear about the $400 increase on the AT? I place my order on an '05 TSX a while ago and was given an instant $500 rebate on the MSRP (whatever it turns out to be) becasue the dealer did not know what the actual MSRP was. I am getting the 6MT CG with Navi, so the $400 increase on the AT won't affect me, but knowing an actual confirmed number would be nice.

freddybrown

Thanks for the replies. A dealer near Seattle mentioned "sometime in October." It's possible that dealerships receive a general first shipment by the end of Oct., while special orders will arrive in Nov.

Belzebutt

What kind of discount did you get on the 2005? If you order so early they must think you're a sure sell so I wouldn't expect them to lower the price a heck of a lot...

ccins

Our TSX is going to be in the first shipment delivered to the dealer in Nashville, TN. My vehicle was ordered along with others that the dealer will have in their inventory.

ccins

I am buying at $1000 over invoice.

tsxhondatuner

geez it is not worth it IMO. 5 years from now no one is going to care about lighted steering wheel controls and XM radio, no one is going to pay for it in 5 years when they add the price to like $30 a month for xm

i jus think its funny how people think an 05' will be worth a lot more for resale, they didn't change anything ( IMO ) to be worth anymore than an 04'

when i had my integra i was looking for a 98+ because of the body differences. a 97 compared to a 98 would be a big difference in resale value. TSX 04' compared to 05' aren't going to be different.

Dan Martin

The 05 will have a higher resale because it is a year newer than the 04. Say you were going to buy a used car today, what sounds better a 1999 or 2000? The 99 may have been built in the last month of the year but the 00 sounds a lot newer even if it was only built a month later.

ccins

3 or 4 years from now a 2005 TSX will have a resale of
about $2000 to $2500 more than a 2004. That's worth waiting a month or two in my opinion

Dan Martin

That's a little optimistic. Maybe $1000 to $1500 tops.

ccins

Since there was no TSX 3 years ago I'll provide the current values of a TL 3.2 which had a comparable retail price as the current TSX. A 2001 TL with 40000 miles in excellent condition has a retail value of $20,980 while a 2000 TL with 40000 miles in excellent condition has a retail value of $18,795. The difference is $2,185, which is about the middle of the range I projected as a guess. Current retail value of a 1999 TL with 40000 mi in exc cond is $16,600.

kenji4861

Thanks ccin, that comment alone made me change my mind from buying an 04 to a 05. I was thinking of how I wouldn't spend another $1000+ for XM radio, passenger powerseat.. but if they are also worth $1000-2000 more in 3-4 years.. it makes sense to go with the 05.

iamhomin

Yeah, it'll make us 04-purchasers feel a lot better if the prices significantly rises (1k~2k), but that won't be the case.