2005 TSX Rumors/News -- Availability info from Justin P.21 *MSRP $26,990* Pg 22
#161
Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
I want heated mirrors. It doesn't bother you because you have them. I just think it's a dumb move on Honda's part to make the '04 US car the ONLY one in the world without this feature. I've been cheated.
Now one touch pass win and mem seats would be nice. But thats a X 1,000,000,000,000
#163
Originally Posted by domn
Now one touch pass win and mem seats would be nice. But thats a X 1,000,000,000,000
#164
Originally Posted by iamhomin
What about the price difference? It SHOULD be more expensive than the 04 msvp, correct?
#165
Originally Posted by STL
What upsets me is that Acura could have added both the items you mentioned with very little effort or expense, but they choose not to. Kind of makes you wonder exactly how Acura decided on the 2005 changes that are coming. It's very clear they do NOT listen to customers and prospective buyers!
EXACTLY! And then to top it all off, they decide to slap it on there ONE YEAR after the cars been around (adding insult to injury). I remember thinking "Jesus, I wish I had heated mirrors right now!" a thousand times last winter. It's just one more thing to scrape ice off of. Granted, that doesn't take a long time, but it's still annoying.
#167
Originally Posted by STL
What upsets me is that Acura could have added both the items you mentioned with very little effort or expense, but they choose not to. Kind of makes you wonder exactly how Acura decided on the 2005 changes that are coming. It's very clear they do NOT listen to customers and prospective buyers!
If Car and Driver did a review and said "the lack of memory seats clearly makes the TSX inadequate in this market" you can bet we'd have memory seats in 2005.
#168
Originally Posted by STL
Kind of makes you wonder exactly how Acura decided on the 2005 changes that are coming. It's very clear they do NOT listen to customers and prospective buyers!
Yup, X alot.
#169
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
As big as we may think we are, it's possible that acura has never seen this site before. Most of their decisions are going to be made purely by their own market research.
If Car and Driver did a review and said "the lack of memory seats clearly makes the TSX inadequate in this market" you can bet we'd have memory seats in 2005.
If Car and Driver did a review and said "the lack of memory seats clearly makes the TSX inadequate in this market" you can bet we'd have memory seats in 2005.
Edit: Finally get to use this smiley....
#170
Oh, and another thing... Do you know how many people go into determining what features and color choices are available? In Canada there is one guy responsible for that job. It's not like there are hundreds of people interviewing potential car owners what they would like to see. I'm sure they have a small team conducting studies and analyzing trends in other similar cars but it's really not that big of a department.
#171
Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
All that means is that their initial market research was .
Oh well, if I don't end up buying a TSX this fall then Acura has no one the blame but themselves (or more specifically their worthless marketing research department).
#172
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Oh, and another thing... Do you know how many people go into determining what features and color choices are available? In Canada there is one guy responsible for that job. It's not like there are hundreds of people interviewing potential car owners what they would like to see. I'm sure they have a small team conducting studies and analyzing trends in other similar cars but it's really not that big of a department.
#173
Originally Posted by STL
And their research for the 2005 model wasn't any better!
Oh well, if I don't end up buying a TSX this fall then Acura has no one the blame but themselves (or more specifically their worthless marketing research department).
Oh well, if I don't end up buying a TSX this fall then Acura has no one the blame but themselves (or more specifically their worthless marketing research department).
What other features are missing that are deal breakers?
#174
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
As big as we may think we are, it's possible that acura has never seen this site before.
#175
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
So memory seats are a big enough reason not to buy the car?
#176
I still say the biggest feature missing on the Canadian cars are the headlight washers - as the Euro Accord is equipped with. For the amount of salt/sand that our roads have in the winter, this would be a really useful feature - waaaaayyyy more useful than heated mirrors.
#177
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Oh, and another thing... Do you know how many people go into determining what features and color choices are available? In Canada there is one guy responsible for that job.
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
It's not like there are hundreds of people interviewing potential car owners what they would like to see. I'm sure they have a small team conducting studies and analyzing trends in other similar cars but it's really not that big of a department.
#178
Originally Posted by STL
No, but the lack of them means I'll be looking at a lot of other different cars that don't have them. If the 2005 model had added them then I'd already be in line to get a TSX. Some people might say just get a TL, but it's a totally different car than neither I nor my wife liked (and that has about zero to do with cost). Acura really dropped the ball...
I would never turn away a car because it lacked power seats.
#179
Originally Posted by STL
And that's Acura's fault not mine!!
They don't need hundreds of people, but they do need to work smarter instead of harder. I suspect they are relying on almost the exact the same market research techniques they did 5-10 years ago -- instead of using resources like this site and others like it.
They don't need hundreds of people, but they do need to work smarter instead of harder. I suspect they are relying on almost the exact the same market research techniques they did 5-10 years ago -- instead of using resources like this site and others like it.
Complaining on a site that they don't read isn't going to do any good.
#180
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Kudos, you're a lot more thorough in your car shopping than I am.
I would never turn away a car because it lacked power seats.
I would never turn away a car because it lacked power seats.
The fact the TSX does not have memory seats means it's no better (in that particular area) then many other cars I am considering; therefore, I will now be taking a closer look at all of them (including the 2005 TSX) before deciding. If Acura would have added that cheap feature, then they could have set themselves apart. Instead their archaic and inept marketing research decided to add a heavier power passenger seat which will only decrease the car's performance.
#182
Originally Posted by STL
Did you even read my reply? I did NOT say that -- and I've been talking about memory settings for the driver's seat and now power seats.
The fact the TSX does not have memory seats means it's no better (in that particular area) then many other cars I am considering; therefore, I will now be taking a closer look at all of them (including the 2005 TSX) before deciding. If Acura would have added that cheap feature, then they could have set themselves apart. Instead their archaic and inept marketing research decided to add a heavier power passenger seat which is only decrease performance.
The fact the TSX does not have memory seats means it's no better (in that particular area) then many other cars I am considering; therefore, I will now be taking a closer look at all of them (including the 2005 TSX) before deciding. If Acura would have added that cheap feature, then they could have set themselves apart. Instead their archaic and inept marketing research decided to add a heavier power passenger seat which is only decrease performance.
I was trying to say it wouldn't even be a consideration on my list. Nice to have but wouldn't affect my buying decision.
#183
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I was trying to say it wouldn't even be a consideration on my list. Nice to have but wouldn't affect my buying decision.
#184
Originally Posted by STL
I bet you drive an automatic, right? My wife and I both drive MTs, and with them seat position is much more critical. Even though we're about the same height, she has longer legs and I have a longer torso so we require different seat positions. So memory seats are not a dealer breaker, but they could be a deal maker.
#185
Originally Posted by STL
I bet you drive an automatic, right? My wife and I both drive MTs, and with them seat position is much more critical. Even though we're about the same height, she has longer legs and I have a longer torso so we require different seat positions. So memory seats are not a dealer breaker, but they could be a deal maker.
I fully understand the need for proper seating position and mirror placement.
Happy car shopping.
#186
I don't how I ever kept my GS-R and 5MT Civic in a straight line without power seats
You guys are taking this 6MT and power seat thing a tad far I think. Now where's Clutch to detail why the 6MT needs an exact seating postion
You guys are taking this 6MT and power seat thing a tad far I think. Now where's Clutch to detail why the 6MT needs an exact seating postion
#189
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Actually my ideal TSX would be a lot more stripped than this one. I would lose the sunroof and power seat, change the leather to a good cloth.
No Moonroof, leather, pwr seat, heat mirr or CD Changer for me.
Funny that the 3 things I never had before I can't live without now. HID's, VSA and the ever important Auto dimming rear view mirror.
#191
Originally Posted by xizor
simple solution, don't let your wife drive your car
#192
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
If power seats were an option on the TSX I probably wouldn't have got them. I'd appreciate the weight savings more than the motors.
#197
Originally Posted by tsxhondatuner
so is this everything?....
We probably won't really know all the 2005 changes for another month.