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Old May 25, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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2007 RDX-overheated

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I am new to the Acura world, but am a BMW owner and big time into DIY.


I just picked up a 07 RDX that has been overheated. I got a great deal so I am not worried about dropping some $$ into it. Overall it is in great condition, one owner with all maintenance records.


What's the story when these engines overheat? Do the head and block warp beyond repair? Is it advisable to just grab a used engine and swap it out? I found one with 62k for ~$1000.


Any advice is GREATLY appreciated!! Thanks in advance.


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Old May 25, 2014 | 06:30 PM
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it depends on the damage. you'll have to open her up and look at what is destroyed.

without opening it up, your guess is as good as ours.

so, hurry and get your hands dirty and show us pics!!! because I am interested!
I am interested in why in overheated and what damage occurred.


engines are cheap.
head work is cheap.

so, if you cant rebuild the heads, grab a new engine!
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Old May 25, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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I'll let you know once I start tearing her down.....should be next weekend. What should I look for? for example a BMW e46 M52TU engine that has been overheated badly is pretty much FUBAR-the head bolt threads in the block stretch and are useless....
Not sure about the why yet....I was told it overheated on the highway. I guess they didn't see the idiot lights.....
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Old May 25, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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I have a J32(TL), and your RDX uses a K23.

the K23 is very similar to the K24 which can be found in multiple applications, from TSX to Accords.
i'm willing to bet a google search of "K24 over heat" will net you some results.

I hope this helps!
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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:09 PM
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Not knowing these engines, is it possible the turbo got damaged by the engine overheating? I know oil flow is key for turbos, just curious..
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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
I have a J32(TL), and your RDX uses a K23.

the K23 is very similar to the K24 which can be found in multiple applications, from TSX to Accords.
i'm willing to bet a google search of "K24 over heat" will net you some results.

I hope this helps!

Thanks! will google it out!
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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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Turbo damage is possible from the oil coking due to the engine overheating as they share the supply... but I doubt it. Especially since it uses synthetic.
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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mooreck3
Thanks! will google it out!
Be sure to update us. We want to know and you are the perfect guinea pig to document this for us.

Good luck
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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:45 PM
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Will document everything, pics and all. Love being the Guinea Pig! LoL
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First thing I would do is test for combustion leaks with a Combustion Leak Detector (sold on Amazon). Overheated aluminum blocks can warp badly which can result in seeping head gaskets.
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Old May 27, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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I will d a compression check first thing, if that is inconclusive I will do the coolant check. The previous owner was told by a mechanic it needed a new engine, so I am pretty confident the engine is hosed. Unless of course they are saying it needs an engine because by time you figure parts and labor for a shop to repair the price to drop a used engine would be about the same.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mooreck3
I will d a compression check first thing, if that is inconclusive I will do the coolant check. The previous owner was told by a mechanic it needed a new engine, so I am pretty confident the engine is hosed. Unless of course they are saying it needs an engine because by time you figure parts and labor for a shop to repair the price to drop a used engine would be about the same.
I would also check the transmission and the radiator. Overheating is not a common issue for RDX. But when it happens it usually due to the radiator failure when ATF line is corroded and ATF fluid mixes with coolant. If this is the case then you may also need to rebuild its transmission and get a new radiator.
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Originally Posted by protoRDX
I would also check the transmission and the radiator. Overheating is not a common issue for RDX. But when it happens it usually due to the radiator failure when ATF line is corroded and ATF fluid mixes with coolant. If this is the case then you may also need to rebuild its transmission and get a new radiator.

Yeah, planned on checking all the cooling system components. How do you go about checking the tranny fluid in these to ensure no coolant got in there? I will have time with it starting Friday evening....
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Old May 28, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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in for the info!

good luck.

if you decide to go with a new to you motor id take the old one for the cost of shipping + a few $$ im debating going B@LL$ deep... for a full bottom end build for a bullet proof spare.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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Yeah, planned on checking all the cooling system components. How do you go about checking the tranny fluid in these to ensure no coolant got in there? I will have time with it starting Friday evening....
Check the coolant first. It must be blue. If it is a dirty milky grey color mix than you are in troubles. Also check the tranny dipstick. ATF fluid must be pink red color.
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Old May 29, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TheWrench116
in for the info!

good luck.

if you decide to go with a new to you motor id take the old one for the cost of shipping + a few $$ im debating going B@LL$ deep... for a full bottom end build for a bullet proof spare.
Most likely I will purchase a used engine with low mileage as they are fairly inexpensive. I will let you know.
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Old May 29, 2014 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by protoRDX
Check the coolant first. It must be blue. If it is a dirty milky grey color mix than you are in troubles. Also check the tranny dipstick. ATF fluid must be pink red color.
Good info, thanks! I'll post some info Friday night most likely.
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Old May 29, 2014 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by InfamousJamous
First thing I would do is test for combustion leaks with a Combustion Leak Detector (sold on Amazon). Overheated aluminum blocks can warp badly which can result in seeping head gaskets.
but its already known...
why waste the money, when you already know compression has been lost.

the k23 is cheap to replace...
heads are cheap to re-machine..


we already know the head is fucked.
ship that shit off and get it re-machined!!!
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Old May 29, 2014 | 08:20 PM
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but its already known...
why waste the money, when you already know compression has been lost.

the k23 is cheap to replace...
heads are cheap to re-machine..


we already know the head is fucked.
ship that shit off and get it re-machined!!!

So, I guess the question is rebuild the current head or replace the motor? Is the head and block absolutely fucked?


My next question would be regarding the previous post about the radiator/transmission. Is this a known failure point and the tranny is FUBAR as well?


I will have my hands in it tomorrow night, it is being delivered tomorrow morning.....sadly I have to go work right after it gets here....
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Old May 29, 2014 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mooreck3
So, I guess the question is rebuild the current head or replace the motor? Is the head and block absolutely fucked?


My next question would be regarding the previous post about the radiator/transmission. Is this a known failure point and the tranny is FUBAR as well?


I will have my hands in it tomorrow night, it is being delivered tomorrow morning.....sadly I have to go work right after it gets here....
that's the thing, you'll have to inspect it. see what the damage is!!!

the K23 is fairly new. again, its closely related to the K24. add one more cylinder and it will be a K24.
Did you ever google K24?
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Old May 29, 2014 | 08:25 PM
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its so cheap to machine the heads if they are busted

and or its so cheap to replace the engine
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Old May 29, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
that's the thing, you'll have to inspect it. see what the damage is!!!

the K23 is fairly new. again, its closely related to the K24. add one more cylinder and it will be a K24.
Did you ever google K24?


Yeah, I did google it....couldn't find shit.....apparently these don't overheat... lol


Stay tuned for initial inspection tomorrow night, coolant, atf fluid etc.....
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Old May 29, 2014 | 08:29 PM
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its so cheap to machine the heads if they are busted

and or its so cheap to replace the engine

Yep, not worried about that. already have a 62k engine lined up. More worried about the tranny.....which isn't expensive either. If it's fucked, I will do both at the same time.
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Old May 29, 2014 | 08:31 PM
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awesome!!

I dont think you'll have any problems with the tranny.
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Old May 30, 2014 | 08:54 AM
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So, the RDX was delivered this morning. I had about 3 whole minutes to give it a once over. All looks good body/interior wise. I did have time to check the fluids, here are the results:

Oil- looked fine no mixing of oil/water present.
ATF- nice red/pink no indication of mixing with coolant.
Radiator- bone dry, as was the expansion tank.

I am going charge the battery and try to turn it over when I get home tonight...
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Originally Posted by justnspace
the K23 is fairly new. again, its closely related to the K24. add one more cylinder and it will be a K24.
You mean add 1mm to the bore? I don't think the K24 is a 5-cyl...
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Old May 30, 2014 | 08:39 PM
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Ok, the head gasket is totally borked!! 35 psi cyl 1, 0 psi on 2,3,4......used engine here I come!! Other than that she is in GREAT condition and everything works as expected. NO obvious coolant leaks, so I don't know WTF caused the overheat...
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Old Aug 21, 2014 | 10:31 AM
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Ok, sorry for the delay. I found the root cause of the engine "imploding". It appears the exhaust manifold deteriorated and suffered a catastrophic failure to the water jacket wall in the manifold. This failure flooded the cylinders with nice hot coolant. The motor was completely seized and EVERY single gasket on the motor was fubar. I would assume steam broke every seal in the motor as well as hydro locked the engine. I have been in touch with Acura USA and I am waiting for them to contact me. This is a possible design flaw, we will see what they say....
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Old Aug 21, 2014 | 11:42 AM
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First pic didn't work...trying again....
Attached Thumbnails 2007 RDX-overheated-rdx_manifold_failure1.jpg  
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