Porsche: 911 News
04-14-2003, 08:16 PM
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Re: Pics of next generation Porsche 911?
Originally posted by synth19
Anyone have pics of this? When is the release of the next version of this car. thnx
Anyone have pics of this? When is the release of the next version of this car. thnx
will be a flat 6. click here for more details
As for pictures, here ya' go.
video here
more pics here
Go here http://forums.pelicanparts.com/forum...p?s=&forumid=8 and do a search for 997 (the internal designation for the next 911). Lots of good stuff on the Pelican Parts board
04-15-2003, 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Zoot
y so soon? How long did Porsche keep the 993 going?
y so soon? How long did Porsche keep the 993 going?
1965 - 1969: Not Well Regarded
1970 - 1973: Well Regarded
1974 - 1977: Not Well Regarded
1978 - 1989: Well Regarded
1990 - 1994: Not Well Regarded - 964
1995 - 1998: Well Regarded - 993
1999 - 2002: Not Well Regarded -996
The 993 was the last of the aircooled cars. The 996 is the first 911 waterpumper.
04-15-2003, 09:57 AM
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I have posted the above pic and a few others a long time ago here in this forum. I later learned that that pic was not the next gen car, but the current GT3 pre-production model testing.
04-15-2003, 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by gavriil
I have posted the above pic and a few others a long time ago here in this forum. I later learned that that pic was not the next gen car, but the current GT3 pre-production model testing.
I have posted the above pic and a few others a long time ago here in this forum. I later learned that that pic was not the next gen car, but the current GT3 pre-production model testing.
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04-15-2003, 11:51 PM
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Video: Next gen 911 (997) testing at the N-ring
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/video_g...o.php?id=35186
s can be seen from this track footage, Porsche has abandoned the oval headlights and returned to traditional round ones, meaning a revamp of the front end. At the rear the new model features larger tail-lights. As for the engine, the water-cooled flat-six engine is expected to grow in capacity to 3.8-litres and produce around 350bhp.
The car is scheduled for launch in 2004 and will include a convertible and turbocharged version. Photos by Hans G. Lehmann
s can be seen from this track footage, Porsche has abandoned the oval headlights and returned to traditional round ones, meaning a revamp of the front end. At the rear the new model features larger tail-lights. As for the engine, the water-cooled flat-six engine is expected to grow in capacity to 3.8-litres and produce around 350bhp.
The car is scheduled for launch in 2004 and will include a convertible and turbocharged version. Photos by Hans G. Lehmann
04-25-2003, 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by capa_22CL
great.. maybe if i start saving now ill be able to get one by the 999 model series.. heh
great.. maybe if i start saving now ill be able to get one by the 999 model series.. heh
993s are coming down in price (low-mid 30's for a 1995), and if you go back to the 80's 911 SC or Carrera, you can pick up a sweet car for low teens to mid 20's.
05-15-2003, 12:59 PM
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Spy shots: Porsche's cabrio 911 C4 and Turbo
(Photos by Bernd Rauh)
By GREG KABLE
PORSCHE WILL REVEAL two open-top versions of the 911 over the next four months in a move aimed at wringing extra sales out of today’s six-year-old model prior to the arrival of next year’s heavily upgraded car.
First out of the blocks is the 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet. Due at U.S. dealers in September, it mates the altered bodywork and four-wheel-drive underpinnings of the Carrera 4S with the soft-top and 320-hp, naturally aspirated 3.6-liter flat six-cylinder engine of the Carrera Cabriolet.
The highlight of Porsche’s drop-top 911 push, however, is a new Turbo Cabriolet—the first since the original ceased production in 1989. Spied under-- going testing near Porsche’s Zuffenhausen headquarters, the new car goes into production later this summer with U.S. sales beginning after its debut in Frankfurt in early September.
The highlight of Porsche’s drop-top 911 push is a new Turbo Cabriolet—the first since the original ceased production in 1989.
Power for the 911 Turbo Cabriolet comes from the same twin-turbocharged, 3.6-liter flat six-cylinder found in the hardtop. The engine’s 420 hp will be channeled to all four wheels via either a six-speed manual or a five-speed Tiptronic gearbox. Packaging the fabric roof and stiffening the 911’s floorpan will add 154 pounds to the vehicle’s curb weight, but insiders say the convertible will still run 0 to 60 mph in 4.4 seconds and top out at about 180 mph—figures that should see the 911 Turbo Cabriolet in a close race with the Ferrari 360 Spider.
Extensive wind-tunnel testing ensures downforce created by the 911 Turbo Cabrio’s rear wing is constant when running with the roof up or down.
The addition of the 4S Cabriolet and Turbo Cabriolet to the Porsche lineup brings to 11 the number of 911 derivatives—more than any time in the car’s 39-year history. And there could be at least one more 911 model in store.
AutoWeek sources say Porsche has developed a successor to the 911 Speedster that is merely awaiting approval from Porsche CEO Wendelin Wiedeking.
By GREG KABLE
PORSCHE WILL REVEAL two open-top versions of the 911 over the next four months in a move aimed at wringing extra sales out of today’s six-year-old model prior to the arrival of next year’s heavily upgraded car.
First out of the blocks is the 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet. Due at U.S. dealers in September, it mates the altered bodywork and four-wheel-drive underpinnings of the Carrera 4S with the soft-top and 320-hp, naturally aspirated 3.6-liter flat six-cylinder engine of the Carrera Cabriolet.
The highlight of Porsche’s drop-top 911 push, however, is a new Turbo Cabriolet—the first since the original ceased production in 1989. Spied under-- going testing near Porsche’s Zuffenhausen headquarters, the new car goes into production later this summer with U.S. sales beginning after its debut in Frankfurt in early September.
The highlight of Porsche’s drop-top 911 push is a new Turbo Cabriolet—the first since the original ceased production in 1989.
Power for the 911 Turbo Cabriolet comes from the same twin-turbocharged, 3.6-liter flat six-cylinder found in the hardtop. The engine’s 420 hp will be channeled to all four wheels via either a six-speed manual or a five-speed Tiptronic gearbox. Packaging the fabric roof and stiffening the 911’s floorpan will add 154 pounds to the vehicle’s curb weight, but insiders say the convertible will still run 0 to 60 mph in 4.4 seconds and top out at about 180 mph—figures that should see the 911 Turbo Cabriolet in a close race with the Ferrari 360 Spider.
Extensive wind-tunnel testing ensures downforce created by the 911 Turbo Cabrio’s rear wing is constant when running with the roof up or down.
The addition of the 4S Cabriolet and Turbo Cabriolet to the Porsche lineup brings to 11 the number of 911 derivatives—more than any time in the car’s 39-year history. And there could be at least one more 911 model in store.
AutoWeek sources say Porsche has developed a successor to the 911 Speedster that is merely awaiting approval from Porsche CEO Wendelin Wiedeking.
07-01-2003, 11:47 AM
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Next gen. Porsche 911 Cabrio - SPY VIDEO
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/video_g...o.php?id=37557
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Even though you might think this is a prototype of the current car, it is actually not: In fact, this is a first prototype of the future Porsche 911 Carrera Cabrio. Under the cleverly disguised body, the prototype carries the complete new mechanics including new engines and new chassis.
If you study the car closely you'll recognize the hoods placed over the front and rear wings, disguising the true shape of the new car. However, yet today it is clearly visible that the next generation 911 will get circular headlamps while flashers and foglights will be mounted in the bumper rather than built into the headlight units. After strong critics for the shape of the headlights of the current 911, Porsche is returning to the conventional, typical 911 face for the new model.
Like their predecessors, 911 and Boxster are developed in combination and will again share major components, although the design will feature much more distinguishing marks compared to the two current models - the close relationship of which was regarded as a big mistake in the beginning of the era of the Boxster.
The new 911 Carrera will be yet another evolutionary step in the development of the original design of the 911 with all design-elements being interpretations of the known theme: headlights, roof-line, rear wings and rear side windows clearly define the new coupe as a true successor of the current 911, but much more of the 911s built before today's generation. Power will continue to come from a 3.6-litre 6-cylinder Boxer in the rear, then delivering around 335 HP in the normally aspirated Carrera and some 440 HP in the Turbo. The 911 Cabrio will make its debut at the Paris Motor Show in 2006, one year after the coupé which is to debut at the 2005 Frankfurt Show. @Automedia
Autoexpress:
Even though you might think this is a prototype of the current car, it is actually not: In fact, this is a first prototype of the future Porsche 911 Carrera Cabrio. Under the cleverly disguised body, the prototype carries the complete new mechanics including new engines and new chassis.
If you study the car closely you'll recognize the hoods placed over the front and rear wings, disguising the true shape of the new car. However, yet today it is clearly visible that the next generation 911 will get circular headlamps while flashers and foglights will be mounted in the bumper rather than built into the headlight units. After strong critics for the shape of the headlights of the current 911, Porsche is returning to the conventional, typical 911 face for the new model.
Like their predecessors, 911 and Boxster are developed in combination and will again share major components, although the design will feature much more distinguishing marks compared to the two current models - the close relationship of which was regarded as a big mistake in the beginning of the era of the Boxster.
The new 911 Carrera will be yet another evolutionary step in the development of the original design of the 911 with all design-elements being interpretations of the known theme: headlights, roof-line, rear wings and rear side windows clearly define the new coupe as a true successor of the current 911, but much more of the 911s built before today's generation. Power will continue to come from a 3.6-litre 6-cylinder Boxer in the rear, then delivering around 335 HP in the normally aspirated Carrera and some 440 HP in the Turbo. The 911 Cabrio will make its debut at the Paris Motor Show in 2006, one year after the coupé which is to debut at the 2005 Frankfurt Show. @Automedia
07-01-2003, 01:53 PM
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Re: Next gen. Porsche 911 Cabrio - SPY VIDEO
Originally posted by gavriil
Even though you might think this is a prototype of the current car, it is actually not:
Even though you might think this is a prototype of the current car, it is actually not:
07-09-2003, 08:09 PM
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Porsche 911 Turbo **C&D Test (page 1)**
from Car & Driver.com
Nabbed by our spies on the streets of Germany, this bright yellow pre-production 911 Turbo Cabriolet confirms what Porsche was hoping to keep under wraps until the Frankfurt motor show in September. The Turbo Cabriolet is indeed going into production. It could go on sale as early as this autumn, and will be powered by a 420-hp twin-turbocharged 3.6-liter flat six that should be good for 0-60 in around 4.4 seconds.
Nabbed by our spies on the streets of Germany, this bright yellow pre-production 911 Turbo Cabriolet confirms what Porsche was hoping to keep under wraps until the Frankfurt motor show in September. The Turbo Cabriolet is indeed going into production. It could go on sale as early as this autumn, and will be powered by a 420-hp twin-turbocharged 3.6-liter flat six that should be good for 0-60 in around 4.4 seconds.
07-15-2003, 10:31 PM
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Spy Shots: 2004 911 Turbo Cabrio
Notice the turbo underneath?
by Brenda Priddy
Only Porsche would drive a bright yellow pre-production car around the streets of Germany and expect no one to notice. But our spies noticed and picked it right out of the crowd — and came away with pictures.
Porsche was hoping to keep their long-rumored 911 Turbo Cabriolet under wraps until the Frankfurt Motor Show this fall, but these pictures confirm the exciting new variant, and sources tell us the Turbo Cabriolet will go on sale as early as this coming autumn.
This isn’t your typical sports car for Sunday drives in the countryside. The Turbo Cabriolet’s 420-hp twin-turbocharged 3.6-liter flat six does 0-60 in 4.4 seconds!
by Brenda Priddy
Only Porsche would drive a bright yellow pre-production car around the streets of Germany and expect no one to notice. But our spies noticed and picked it right out of the crowd — and came away with pictures.
Porsche was hoping to keep their long-rumored 911 Turbo Cabriolet under wraps until the Frankfurt Motor Show this fall, but these pictures confirm the exciting new variant, and sources tell us the Turbo Cabriolet will go on sale as early as this coming autumn.
This isn’t your typical sports car for Sunday drives in the countryside. The Turbo Cabriolet’s 420-hp twin-turbocharged 3.6-liter flat six does 0-60 in 4.4 seconds!
07-17-2003, 01:25 AM
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wow, i cant say it looks like theyre trying to hide it too well. i mean it says turbo on the back and has the rag top black on a yellow car. whats the use of the front masking?
07-17-2003, 07:59 AM
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I really think the only bad thing about porsche is that they are a little to small. Other then that AWD, sick horsepower, and turbo's shit you can't go wrong
08-06-2003, 01:55 PM
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Porsche 911 Celebrates 40th Anniversary With Commemorative Model with power increase
Porsche announced it will produce a special 40th Anniversary 911 model in recognition of the debut of the first Porsche 911 at the 1963 Frankfurt Motor Show (IAA). To be unveiled next month at the 2003 IAA, the commemorative model is based on the current rear-wheel drive Porsche 911 Carrera but offers more horsepower, enhanced handling features, and unique interior and exterior styling.
The 40th Anniversary 911's 3.6-liter flat-six engine produces 345 horsepower (DIN), 25 horsepower more than the base model 911. As a result, the model is one second faster than the regular 911 from 0 to 120 mph (200 km/h) with a time of 16.5 seconds. The car's top track speed, 180 mph (290 km/h), makes it the second fastest non-turbocharged model in the current 911 line.
Aggressive sport suspension settings help to enhance the 40th Anniversary 911's handling. Combined with the standard electronic Porsche Stability Management (PSM) system, an additional mechanical rear-axle differential lock provides even better traction and optimum acceleration potential.
The 40th Anniversary 911's distinguishing styling features include GT silver metallic exterior paint color (exclusive to this model and the Carrera GT), front cooling air openings adopted from the 911 Turbo, body color air intake grills, left and right sill trims, an aluminum "911" logo on the engine cover, shot-blasted, polished 18-inch Carrera wheels, and high-gloss polished exhaust tailpipes. A sliding sunroof, bi-xenon headlights with dynamic beam angle control and a headlight cleaning system complete the standard exterior features.
The interior is trimmed in naturally soft dark gray leather. Other interior details include sport seats with two-stage heating; center console, seat backs and dashboard groove trim strips and handbrake lever side covers finished in GT silver metallic; aluminum-finish instrument dial rings; and a numbered "911 40th Anniversary" plaque on the center console.
Porsche will produce only 1,963 40th Anniversary 911 models. It will be available to the North American market in November 2003 with a base U.S. price of $89,800 ($131,450 Canadian).
08-06-2003, 03:36 PM
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1. I wonder how they came up with the number "1,963" to be produced?
2. So $10K less than a GT3. Hmmm... I see very few of them selling...
1. I wonder how they came up with the number "1,963" to be produced?
2. So $10K less than a GT3. Hmmm... I see very few of them selling...
08-06-2003, 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by gavriil
1. I wonder how they came up with the number "1,963" to be produced?
2. So $10K less than a GT3. Hmmm... I see very few of them selling...
1. I wonder how they came up with the number "1,963" to be produced?
2. So $10K less than a GT3. Hmmm... I see very few of them selling...
debut of the first Porsche 911 at the 1963 Frankfurt Motor Show (IAA).
08-07-2003, 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by gavriil
1. I wonder how they came up with the number "1,963" to be produced?
2. So $10K less than a GT3. Hmmm... I see very few of them selling...
1. I wonder how they came up with the number "1,963" to be produced?
2. So $10K less than a GT3. Hmmm... I see very few of them selling...
So even though the price difference isn't great this one still has more luxury which will appeal to some people.
08-07-2003, 07:11 PM
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actually I think it will sell fine. The GT3 doesn't have the creature comforts that the regular 911 has. (to save weight)
So even though the price difference isn't great this one still has more luxury which will appeal to some people.
actually I think it will sell fine. The GT3 doesn't have the creature comforts that the regular 911 has. (to save weight)
So even though the price difference isn't great this one still has more luxury which will appeal to some people.
08-12-2003, 06:23 PM
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Porsche: 911 Turbo new **S Version Revealed (page 4)
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/video_g...o.php?id=39014
ust when Ferrari and Lamborghini thought they had the 911 Turbo covered with cars like the 360 Stradale and Gallardo, Porsche unleashes a new, more powerful version of the blown 911.
Filmed here for the first time, Stuttgart's latest Turbo will go on sale towards the end of 2005 as part of a thoroughly revised 911 line-up. At its heart is a reworked version of the current car's twin-turbo 3.6-litre flat six with over 450 HP in standard trim - up by 30 HP. Exact technical details remain scarce, though Porsche is thought to have side-stepped direct injection - a technology it has already developed - in raising the turbo's output. Instead, the increase is said to come from a series of subtle enhancements to the ECU, coupled with further improvements to the VarioCam variable valve timing system and a moderate increase in boost pressure.
New transmission technology is also claimed to have played its part in pumping the torque rating of the new turbo. Along with a beefed up version of the existing six-speed manual and a new six-speed automatic, Porsche is developing the next-generation Turbo to accept an advanced double clutch gearbox similar to that offered by Audi on the TT V6 and pioneered by Porsche itself on the 956/962 sports racing cars of the'80s/'90s.
Developed in co-operation with Borg-Warner, its ability to deliver rapid fire shifts without any interruption in power should see the 0-100 km/h time drop to around 3.7sec. Top speed remains close to the existing model's 305 km/h.
The new front-end look of the 911 Turbo, with a return to classic round headlamps, can be clearly seen in this footage. The heavily disguised rear vertical air ducts for the engine and brakes will be replaced by more stylised units similar in shape to those found on the Porsche Carrera GT.
ust when Ferrari and Lamborghini thought they had the 911 Turbo covered with cars like the 360 Stradale and Gallardo, Porsche unleashes a new, more powerful version of the blown 911.
Filmed here for the first time, Stuttgart's latest Turbo will go on sale towards the end of 2005 as part of a thoroughly revised 911 line-up. At its heart is a reworked version of the current car's twin-turbo 3.6-litre flat six with over 450 HP in standard trim - up by 30 HP. Exact technical details remain scarce, though Porsche is thought to have side-stepped direct injection - a technology it has already developed - in raising the turbo's output. Instead, the increase is said to come from a series of subtle enhancements to the ECU, coupled with further improvements to the VarioCam variable valve timing system and a moderate increase in boost pressure.
New transmission technology is also claimed to have played its part in pumping the torque rating of the new turbo. Along with a beefed up version of the existing six-speed manual and a new six-speed automatic, Porsche is developing the next-generation Turbo to accept an advanced double clutch gearbox similar to that offered by Audi on the TT V6 and pioneered by Porsche itself on the 956/962 sports racing cars of the'80s/'90s.
Developed in co-operation with Borg-Warner, its ability to deliver rapid fire shifts without any interruption in power should see the 0-100 km/h time drop to around 3.7sec. Top speed remains close to the existing model's 305 km/h.
The new front-end look of the 911 Turbo, with a return to classic round headlamps, can be clearly seen in this footage. The heavily disguised rear vertical air ducts for the engine and brakes will be replaced by more stylised units similar in shape to those found on the Porsche Carrera GT.
08-13-2003, 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
Holy chit that 911 is riding on rails!
WOW
Holy chit that 911 is riding on rails!
WOW
AWESOME!