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Old 12-29-2015, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWrench116
keep in mind the stock engine is rated at 265 tq at the crank and im putting down 370+ to the ground... so keep in mind that mine is still living and if we do the math
to the wheels x drive line loss correction of 20% = est crank TQ
370 x 1.20 =444 TQ
at the crank which is VERY conservative.

keep in mind its not hp that kills stuff its TQ
You do make an excellent point. This is honda as well, they tend to over build things in order to keep up their reputation for reliability. Your rdx is proof that automakers detune the crap out of shit when they care capable of so much more. Regardless of what I do with my rdx by the end of this summer, I will keep checking back in on your guys's builds. By then, ken will have some twin charging action going on!
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i'm hoping that he gets it out to Vit in Oregon and goes the motec M1 rout in order to extract the maximum potential out of the setup that he goes with supercharger+turbo or the turbos in a compound arrangement!
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Originally Posted by TheWrench116
i'm hoping that he gets it out to Vit in Oregon and goes the motec M1 rout in order to extract the maximum potential out of the setup that he goes with supercharger+turbo or the turbos in a compound arrangement!
Would be fun seeing the look on cayenne turbo and bmw x5M drivers's faces as he passes them. Even better, the look on a new nsx or r8 drivers face.
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Originally Posted by TheWrench116
i'm hoping that he gets it out to Vit in Oregon and goes the motec M1 rout in order to extract the maximum potential out of the setup that he goes with supercharger+turbo or the turbos in a compound arrangement!


So fat!!
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Old 12-30-2015, 03:19 PM
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look at that coke can.. LOOK AT IT!!.. its magical.. santas face on it like Hey check me out..
Old 12-30-2015, 10:20 PM
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post the news already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 12-31-2015, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWrench116
post the news already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh the newly decorvered RDXzilla!!!
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Car is feeling good, still more work to be done though.
Old 01-02-2016, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KenB350z
Car is feeling good, still more work to be done though.
Glad to hear he's sorting it out for you.
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Originally Posted by Slow98teg
Glad to hear he's sorting it out for you.
Yeah, kinda scary "I told him". A bit stressful, you know when you gain a ton of power, you start worrying about other things....
Old 01-02-2016, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KenB350z
Yeah, kinda scary "I told him". A bit stressful, you know when you gain a ton of power, you start worrying about other things....
Yeah I hear ya. None of us know the true limits of the drivetrain. So far we're all good! Lol.
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go dyno if your under 400 wheel tq let it eat!
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new turbo would defiantly break shit :lol:
Old 01-03-2016, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TheWrench116
go dyno if your under 400 wheel tq let it eat!
Soon, have to fulfill a check list first.
Old 01-03-2016, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWrench116
new turbo would defiantly break shit :lol:
Trying to get her ready, so I can race the RDX at the track.
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Ported and ready to go, now just waiting on my engine to come in so I can send it off to get it built! I'm trying to get ready for TX2K16
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Compound..
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Should we be worried about this?
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Should we be worried about this?
Trying to figure out what you are driving. Is it a lexus?
Old 01-22-2016, 08:48 AM
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Trying to figure out what you are driving. Is it a lexus?
Nissan company car.
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need that transmission built or it will be toast also motec to get it to run right no chance that flashpro can cope with all that effectively. the difference would probably be 200ish HP&TQ and loads of drivability between the m1 and hondata.
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The pilot comes through again!
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need that transmission built or it will be toast also motec to get it to run right no chance that flashpro can cope with all that effectively. the difference would probably be 200ish HP&TQ and loads of drivability between the m1 and hondata.
I don't plan on running a built motor and stock transmission...
Old 01-22-2016, 12:09 PM
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The pilot comes through again!
How did you get it back out of the Pilot?
Old 01-22-2016, 01:35 PM
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How did you get it back out of the Pilot?
X2 how? Wait don't you own a wench?
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How did you get it back out of the Pilot?


The wife/BFF and I hulk'd it out.
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are you going send the oil filter housing out to get modded for an oil cooler setup?

and what about a really good catch can setup with the AN fittings welded to the valve cover and every thing else? i'm going to go play in the snow in the morning.
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Will be shipping this block out to Darton East soon...
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are you going send the oil filter housing out to get modded for an oil cooler setup?

and what about a really good catch can setup with the AN fittings welded to the valve cover and every thing else? i'm going to go play in the snow in the morning.
I'll hit you up.
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Now I gotta rip apart the block and get this thing sent out!
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Hmmm, I wonder if I can fit the K20a valvetrain in here. I've seen it done on the K20a3.. Definitely would need a full EMS for that.
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Hmmm, I wonder if I can fit the K20a valvetrain in here. I've seen it done on the K20a3.. Definitely would need a full EMS for that.
Im sure everything will fit. Just would need to clay the motor to check clearances. Just for the stock pistons that is. Aftermarket pistons are definitely deeper on the valve pockets. And no you would not need a different ecu to do it. You guys need to stop thinking this magical motec ecu will be leaps and bounds ahead of flashpro. It's working just fine on your car right now. Just need your boost leaks fixed and see how it goes from there.
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flashpro should be able to control the intake and exhaust vtec camshafts.
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It still won't be true vtec though. No lma's in the head. It will be lopey.
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Im sure everything will fit. Just would need to clay the motor to check clearances. Just for the stock pistons that is. Aftermarket pistons are definitely deeper on the valve pockets. And no you would not need a different ecu to do it. You guys need to stop thinking this magical motec ecu will be leaps and bounds ahead of flashpro. It's working just fine on your car right now. Just need your boost leaks fixed and see how it goes from there.
Guys that have done this said you will need Kpro to run traditional vtec in a none traditional vtec engine. Just what I was reading. What is Motec? My car is running good, and feels good. Looking into the future build that is all. Does it seem weird to do two things at once?
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try contacting hondata and see what they have to say. I know Ktuner can run full vtec heads on the accord i4. Maybe they can tweak flashpro to do the same?
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I'll probably just end up running the BC stage 3, because I know Kpro is for manual only.
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Hmmm, I wonder if I can fit the K20a valvetrain in here. I've seen it done on the K20a3.. Definitely would need a full EMS for that.
So when you max out on twin charging. Will you then try a hybrid setup like they do in volvo t8 vehicles?
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So when you max out on twin charging. Will you then try a hybrid setup like they do in volvo t8 vehicles?
Wow! I wish! Can you imagine twincharge with electric motor! Damn Volvo!

-400 hp Direct-Injected Turbo & Supercharged Engine (87 hp Electric Motor)
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Wow! I wish! Can you imagine twincharge with electric motor! Damn Volvo!

-400 hp Direct-Injected Turbo & Supercharged Engine (87 hp Electric Motor)
I think the biggest hurdle with electric cars is the weight. If they could only find a way to more efficiently store power in smaller, lighter batteries. The one added bonus of heavy batteries is that the center of gravity is so low and that also they provide a near 50/50 weight balance.

Really though, hybrid-turbo systems are genius. Instant power and torque and then the turbo spools up and kicks in. It is like being hit from behind with a freight train. You could then afford to put in a monster turbo because you don't care about turbo lag. It sucks that putting that type of system into a car not meant for it, would probably be close to impossible.

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