Yumcha

Well, to be honest, I didn't watch the Flyers/Rangers tilt.


So, not sure what cabby was whining about. But, okeydokey..will take his word for it.




@ Minnows/Burgerkings tilt.

e30cabrio

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So basically you don't know what happened but have an opinion. Seems par for the course.

e30cabrio

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Pro Flyer report:
STUDS
1. JAKUB VORACEK: Voracek made a nice play along the right-wing boards and then a pretty pass to set up a goal by Mark Streit that cut into a 2-0 Rangers lead. He also showed a rare physical side by pummeling Carl Hagelin six punches to none in a second-period fight that strangely landed both players roughing minors. The Flyers ended with a power play though, when Daniel Carcillo also was sent off for roughing.

dom

Bye - Kings

Yumcha

When did I give an opinion about your team? Read again dude.

Yumcha

Yup. Must-win game and letting the Sharks come back each time with a lead was asking for it.

Well, the Flyers recently proved coming back from 3 zip is possible.









And SJ does have a no-name goalie.

e30cabrio

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You opined I was whining when there was total officiating malfeasance.

Read what you wrote since you seem to have forgotten, d00d.

97BlackAckCL

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So Cabby's team wins 4-1 but spams 2 pages bitching about the refs? Welcome to playing the Flyers, they get away with more dirty shit than any team in the league.

e30cabrio

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Fixed it for ya/spam?

No posted those updaytes you crave.

As far as complaining about officials it fits when it happens.

Watch the , play Voracek interferes with Hagelin, holds him, then punches him. Hagelin just tries to get away yet not only do they both get roughing but Carcello gets a penalty for a love tap.

That is just one of over a dozen bad calls against & calls ignored against Philly.

e30cabrio

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O& lets go Columbusssss!!!

Rounder

you won't get past the pens in round 2.

e30cabrio

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You may not get past Columbusssss.

97BlackAckCL

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My team won 4-1 but the refs are MEAN

e30cabrio

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Officiating sucking and still winning does not mean officiating did not suck.

I get you don't get it seeing as the Pens get away with more ish than anyone.

Rounder

mean ol refs! and I didn't realize this was twitter. if I wanted a play by play on who scored I'll pull up the NHL Game Center.

e30cabrio

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Do that.

Yumcha

That was NOT an opinion, dude. I asked you what you were whining about cuz I only saw the end-result.

You're reading wayyyyy too much into what I had posted. Chill. And honestly, your fight is with the Flyers fans and etc.



I really have no interest as to which team wins in your series. Sorry.

Rounder

cabbys scared to play the pens, hence rooting for lumbus. one and done, buddy. book it.

Yumcha

Let's see how the Jackets respond. But, blowing that 2-goal lead and the way they did it in Game 3 might've been series-changing.

e30cabrio

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Yup, just me.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...m_campaign=nhl

Dave Lozo's Bag Skate: Inconsistent Refereeing Continues to Plague Playoffs

NBC's Brian Engblom relayed a conversation he had with Duncan Keith during Monday night's game between the Chicago Blackhawks and St. Louis Blues about the officiating in their first-round series.

The topic of Brent Seabrook's awful hit on David Backes during Game 2 that left Seabrook suspended three games and Backes out indefinitely came up. Highlights of some questionable hits and dirty plays involving stick work away from the play were shown by NBCSN, and Engblom said he asked Keith why things became so out of control in Game 2.

"Because they weren't calling any penalties," Keith said.

Therein lies the problem every time the Stanley Cup playoffs begin.

After 1,230 regular-season games that are officiated one way, the standard of refereeing becomes something else completely during the second season.

Referees put their whistles away at certain points of games, touting a "let them play" mentality that is detrimental on a lot of levels, including the one that helped leave Backes unconscious from a filthy hit that may not have happened if referees had nipped it all in the bud earlier in the game.

Then at other times, referees call every little thing. Then at other times, the score seems to be dictating what is called and what isn't. Referees straddle a line between LET THEM PLAY and REINING IT IN instead of just CALLING PENALTIES.

Therein lies the problem every time the Stanley Cup playoffs begin.

After 1,230 regular-season games that are officiated one way, the standard of refereeing becomes something else completely during the second season.

Referees put their whistles away at certain points of games, touting a "let them play" mentality that is detrimental on a lot of levels, including the one that helped leave Backes unconscious from a filthy hit that may not have happened if referees had nipped it all in the bud earlier in the game.

Then at other times, referees call every little thing. Then at other times, the score seems to be dictating what is called and what isn't. Referees straddle a line between LET THEM PLAY and REINING IT IN instead of just CALLING PENALTIES.

Keith is not alone in his awareness that the officiating becomes unpredictable in the playoffs. Players know they can get away with a whole lot more when it comes to the rough stuff away from the puck or after whistles, because officials don't want to influence the outcome of games by calling more penalties.

Referees are human, but the fact they get away from protocols that were used for six months during the regular season leaves everyone—fans and players alike—frustrated by the obvious randomness of penalty calls during games.

They don't want to make a call late in a game that leads to a power play that leads to a winning goal, because for some unknown reason, referees have it in their heads they are deciding the outcome of games by making those calls, no matter how warranted those calls may be.

Of course, by not calling penalties that are penalties, referees are doing just as much to decide the fortunes of hockey teams by turning their palms up and shrugging at infractions that were called regularly during the regular season.

Doing nothing is just as influential as doing something, yet this is lost on most referees.

For all the guff officials receive during the regular season, there is a standard that just about every officiating crew uses. Everyone knows what it is, and everyone plays the game within those parameters. Sure, there are blown calls and bad nights, but that's going to happen to anyone.

The problem for players and coaches is with that standard changing in the playoffs, it's simply not changing and remaining in one place from puck drop to the final horn. What is and isn't a penalty becomes this moving target from shift to shift, period to period and, again, players are aware of this.

So they will look to exploit it by trying to get away with more and more, and when they do get away with more and more, it emboldens one side and angers the other side. They know that if their team is down a goal or two, they can get away with more, as officials are aware of the score and are hesitant to give that winning team an added advantage by, well, doing their job and calling penalties.

That leads to the players on the team that feel like they've been wronged by unpunished cheap hits looking to exact justice of their own. Next thing you know, a hockey player is lying unconscious on the ice, while players on the other team are taunting him on national television.

Anger boiling over into dirty hits as a result of cheap shots away from the puck that go unseen and/or unpunished is just one facet of ineptitude of officials during the playoffs.

The other is the way officials are extremely conscious of calling minor infractions against teams for fear of turning the game into a power-play fest, so even when a team is worthy of 10 minor penalties in a game, they'll swallow the whistle at times.

How many games have occurred in the postseason in which one team is called for a blatant hook, trip and hold, giving the opponent two or three straight power plays, yet when a third or fourth blatant penalty is committed, a referee won't put his arm in the air?

Referees keep track of the amount of penalties they've called against a single team and, instead of wiping their minds clean of what they've done previously and calling penalties as they see them, they're conscious of giving one team a lot of power plays in a row, so they'll look the other way on that fourth or fifth infraction.

Again, this is the heart of that silly idea referees have about not influencing the outcome of games by calling penalties, yet by not calling penalties against weaker opponents who must commit penalties to combat the superior team, they are doing a lot to influence the outcome of a game.

This notion isn't exclusive to the playoffs, as this happens a lot in the regular season as well, but it is certainly heightened in the playoffs.

It's impossible to show examples of all this, as web sites don't clip highlights of penalties that aren't called. But this happens routinely and is noticed by just about everyone who watches hockey as part of their jobs.

e30cabrio

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Leave out whining and I don't care. Saying I was whining when there were numerous ignored penalties against Philly & numerous non penalties called against the Rangers is silly.

We played ok against you, I just hate the Pens, check the league most fans of other teams do. It is ok, your golf season beckons just like every year.

Yumcha

But, cabby, as a hockey fan, you need to know that reffing in the NHL is like the WWE at best. And come playoffs, it gets worse. So, nothing should shock you anymore, right?

It's a pathetic and sad reality. And what you posted is bang on...would the Hawks/Blues series have been so chippy in Game 2 if refs actually called it black and white? Probably not.

I did NOT know your game was so badly reffed. But, at least, it did not affect your team's outcome. So, take some solace in that.

e30cabrio

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This is my point exactly. Refs don't make calls ish escalates, careers end.

That is what I am whining about.

Yumcha

Okay then. I get what you're "whining" about now.


We good?

Yumcha

I'm kinda waiting for Waldorf to come in here to talk about how his Kings are getting gang-tackled left and right by the Sharks and there are no calls.

That series is probably going to be over soon but man, those two teams play like they want the other to be dead.

e30cabrio

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Just don't call me late for dinner.

It is unacceptable the way that series has been called.

Yumcha

Kopidoor got tackled first by Jumbo Joe and then later again by Mar-row. Nothing.

black label

Good point, Kings never had a chance.

97BlackAckCL

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I didn't see Pittsburgh mentioned in there anywhere

e30cabrio

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Cause they are meaningless?

Yumcha

He's a no-name goalie that got me gang-raped by everyone in here who thought Chicago had no-chance.


Niemi is the runt of Finlandian goalies. I hear he's actually a Russian immigrant to Finland. Niemiski. He's supposed to choke in the playoffs like all great Russians.

Moog-Type-S

Fore!

e30cabrio

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Speaking of meaningless....

Don't want to show witness face? Cameltoe!

imj0257

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Go Stars

dom

Leaves already booked all the good courses. Your Kings will have to settle for the public courses with the shitty grass.

Brad Doty can Golf with me.

dom

black label

I hear there's some good night fishing spots available though

97BlackAckCL

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dom

If you want to go to Wisconsin, ya.

Moog-Type-S

Richards spotted at practice today.