ord cl-s

Any good ways to get rid of water spots? I need to get rid of a few before the Zaino treatment begins. Thx

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2001 CL-S Nighthawk Black/ Parchment, Spoiler, no-nav,
1968 GTO Convertible Red/Wht
1956 Ford F100 Blue

MikeS 18

Have you clay bar'ed the car? You got black; you gotta do it. This is the best way to start and get rid of the water spots.

If you are committing to Zayno, then you should do the whole routine.

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CL-S #22,299 Black/Parchment/Nav, spoiler, door & fender guards, wood trim, PIAA 19169 & 9005, V1 w/remote, trunk & winter mats, no headers, no sway bars, no springs, no money!

Bill97Z

Clay bar should get waterspots off....also, as an alternative you could use white vinegar....50/50 mix with water first, and then full strength....should get them off.....

MNCLS

Will this also strip off wax?

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01 3.2 CLS Non-Navi
San Marino Red
Tinted 35% all the way
Winter Rubber mats
Piaa High Beam lights (Not worth it)
Polarg driving lights
Next week CAI (in san marino red)

MikeS 18

Yep, strips it all.

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CL-S #22,299 Black/Parchment/Nav, spoiler, door & fender guards, wood trim, PIAA 19169 & 9005, V1 w/remote, trunk & winter mats, no headers, no sway bars, no springs, no CAI, no money! (but I got a nice new kitchen!)

volsfan0911

Got to really - remember, a "water spot" is the mineral deposit actually digging into the surface. So, you gotta get to the paint to get the minerals carried away. The vineagar solution works really well and is CHEAP! Then just apply Z2 back over it when you get 'em all.

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when you're ready to succeed!

soopa

I was never able to get the Water Spots I have off.

Tried everything.

They dug too deep too fast.

Hopefully Z5 will hide them a lil bit when I put my Zaino coat on soon.

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

AirC

I have tried like almost every cleaner there is and the clay bar too..thers no way those water drops seem to want to come off. I havent tried that vinegar thing.. SHould i just get some from the grocery store or something and doesnt amtter which brand? Will this ruin my paint or clear coat? Thanks alot..

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01' CL 3.2 Premium.
Tan/Black
Neuspeed Strut Bar
Diamond Nicrome Limo Mirror Tint
Undetectable K40 w/t Diffuser
Kicker 12" Competition
Cleared Headlights
Custom Int/Ext Lights
Comptech Sway Bars
AEM CAI w/t Bypass Valve

soopa

If a clay bar doesnt work. Then vinegar wont either.

The water spots have etchec into your paint... you are no longer seeing the water minerals... you are seeing scratches in your paint.

You can try 3M Perfect-It Hand Glaze #39009

If that doesnt work... then nothing will.

Your best bet then is to try to "hide" them... rather then get rid of them.

Use Z5 or anything that says it will cover up scratches/swirls.

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit
Valentine 1

AirC

well I guess ill have to try to use that. But i have tried the clay bar and all other types of scratch cover up and swirls removers and stuff. Nothing works...looks liek im stuck with this.. but just incase it does work.. what kind of vinegar do i need to get...and is that 3m thing cheap? THanks alot soopa

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01' CL 3.2 Premium.
Tan/Black
Neuspeed Strut Bar
Diamond Nicrome Limo Mirror Tint
Undetectable K40 w/t Diffuser
Kicker 12" Competition
Cleared Headlights
Custom Int/Ext Lights
Comptech Sway Bars
AEM CAI w/t Bypass Valve
Eibach Pro Kit

soopa

Just get 5% distilled grocery store quality white vinegar.

Today i gave my baby a dawn wash, claying, vinegar wash, z-wash... and then the Z treatment. She looks a lil better.

But yes... your stuck with the water spots. If ya ask me... dont bother with the 3M shit.. cuz if your spots are as bad as mine (and it sounds like they are) that shit wont help.

your only choice is too live with it... or take it to a detailer and see if they can buff them out with a machine and some strong cutting shit.

let us know...

oh but yea... if you wanna waste your time... or get a workout with the 3M stuff... its not too expensive... its a black bottle with a red/yellow label.

go to your local NAPA store and ask for it... they should have it in the back somewhere. 3M Part #39009

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit
Valentine 1

EricL

It sounds like your need an expert detailer. Once the "easy" stuff doesn't work (the vinegar, polish, clay, etc), it is time for a good detailer.

I once left my Maxima on the street next to some sprinkler with some of the hardest water in the world. The water spots on the spoiler got a full buff-down at a professional shop to get rid of the stuff.

I first tried the solutions/fixes mentioned above (with minor effect), and it looked like it was "inside" the paint!

Good luck



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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
• Kevlar/SS Brake lines w/Brembos?
• Comptech headers & sways
• Silver AEM CAI
• 9 coats of Zaino magic

AirC

Thanks eveyrone for the info. Ill be sure to try some of the things you listed above. I hope something works but im not really expecting anything unless i do go to a detailing shop. Btw what is a NAPA store?k ANd do you have any idea how much it will be to pay a detailer to take it out? Thanks alot

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01' CL 3.2 Premium.
Tan/Black
Neuspeed Strut Bar
Diamond Nicrome Limo Mirror Tint
Undetectable K40 w/t Diffuser
Kicker 12" Competition
Cleared Headlights
Custom Int/Ext Lights
Comptech Sway Bars
AEM CAI w/t Bypass Valve
Eibach Pro Kit

AirC

I recenlty checked up on this site that sells those 3M products and i see the product that you were tlaking about. http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004631.html THey seem to have so many otehr things there.
They have a product that says it removes water spots too... Its the 3m rubbing compounds.. theres actually 2 different types. Just wondering if you have tried this or if you think this woudl be better. THanks everyone.

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01' CL 3.2 Premium.
Tan/Black
Neuspeed Strut Bar
Diamond Nicrome Limo Mirror Tint
Undetectable K40 w/t Diffuser
Kicker 12" Competition
Cleared Headlights
Custom Int/Ext Lights
Comptech Sway Bars
AEM CAI w/t Bypass Valve
Eibach Pro Kit

AirC

Ok well i tried the white viniger thing and that didnt do anything
Does anyone have any other suggestions. IF that 3m thing doesnt work that is.. is my only solution to get the entire panel repainted? Isnt there some kind of special detailer that can buff out those water marks. If so anyone have any ideao what it would cost or what they are using that is different from what we use? Thanks alot for yyour time.

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01' CL 3.2 Premium.
Tan/Black
Neuspeed Strut Bar
Diamond Nicrome Limo Mirror Tint
Undetectable K40 w/t Diffuser
Kicker 12" Competition
Cleared Headlights
Custom Int/Ext Lights
Comptech Sway Bars
AEM CAI w/t Bypass Valve
Eibach Pro Kit

EricL

A professional detailer, if he is really good, will attend classes constantly. They know the latest tricks, products, and solutions to common and not-so-common paint problems.

If you can find a "well recommended" detailer in your area, they can probably "buff-out" the water spots (or some other technique [I don't what they do]).

The guy I know in So. Cal, has a paint depth measuring gauge that costs more that a thousand bucks! He can tell how much paint needs to be removed before the UV properties of the clear coat are compromised. I don't know if he will buff it out, but the guy I know lives, breaths, and talks detailing.

If it CAN be fixed, find out from an expert, not some BOZO that thinks they are a detailer just 'cause they put a sign on a truck or building. Get some references *and* check out the work

That's all I know...



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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
• Kevlar/SS Brake lines w/Brembos?
• Comptech headers & sways
• Silver AEM CAI
• 9 coats of Zaino magic

AirC

Does anyone know if the vinegar is harmful to the clear coat becuase it looks like it ate away on alot of my clear coat. i tried using the clay bar, waxin, polishing and it still looks ike the part that i washed with viniger has lost alot of its shine .

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01' CL 3.2 Premium.
Tan/Black
Neuspeed Strut Bar
Diamond Nicrome Limo Mirror Tint
Undetectable K40 w/t Diffuser
Kicker 12" Competition
Cleared Headlights
Custom Int/Ext Lights
Comptech Sway Bars
AEM CAI w/t Bypass Valve
Eibach Pro Kit

soopa

It is very weak stuff. But I guess any acid would be harmful if left long enough...

Your only supposed to leave it on for like 30-40 seconds.

Your probably seeing your car without any of the waxes and shit on it and thinking the clear coat is gone.

I really doubt you hurt it.

Vinegar is prolly no more acidic then the water in the air.

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit
Valentine 1

Aysle

What area of SoCal does he serve? Can I get his contact information?

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01 CL-S Navi - Black/Ebony
Xephyr CAI with I get my Car back
Alpine MRV-1507 V12 Amp - Tested @ 1,237 Watts RMS - 2,078 Watts Max
2x Alpine 12" Type R - Custom Enclosure
Escort Passport 8500

EricL

I sent you a detailed email with contact info and more -- it went off to your email account.

I only now found your request! So, it is 5/8 at 12:30AM PST and you have mail...




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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
• Kevlar/SS Brake lines w/Brembos?
• Comptech headers & sways
• Silver AEM CAI
• 10 coats of Zaino magic

MikeS 18

Vinegar wash does not hurt the clearcoat. If you want to try more aggressive methods you can try the 3M products. Least aggressive (Perfect It Swirl Mark Remover Glaze for Dark Colored Cars), more aggressive (Perfect It II Fine Cut), more aggressive (Finesse It). If all this doesn't work, take it to a detailer who can get the grinder out. 3M products are about $8-10 per bottle; vinegar is vinegar (pay attention in chemistry next time) and good Luck!

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CL-S #22,299 Black/Parchment/Nav, spoiler, door & fender guards, wood trim, PIAA 9005, Polarg M6, V1 w/remote, trunk & winter mats, no headers, no sway bars, no springs, no CAI, no money! (but I got a nice new kitchen!)