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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Windows XP weirdness

Does this belong in the gaming section

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Just installed XP on a new system, along with a bunch of software. If i manually tally up the disk space used on c:, I get about 7-8 gigs, incluging pagefile.sys. If I check the properties on the C drive, it says I am using up 10 gigs.

What gives
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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you add the 2 gigs windows uses....other than that must be some installer files maybe left over....run a disk cleanup...and see how much space you get then...
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AcUrAge703
you add the 2 gigs windows uses....other than that must be some installer files maybe left over....run a disk cleanup...and see how much space you get then...

The 2 gigs windows uses was included. I added up everything under C:.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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did you create a partition??? or just installed over a previous windows....sorry not trying to make you feel like you dont know computers but thats the only way i can see where 2 gigs is added...

i work in IT....its become second nature.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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Yeah - mine's off (lower in the listing) by about 80 MB. Do you have "show hidden and system files" enabled?

Otherwise it could be hidden/system files like the swap file or the hibernation file (if you have that enabled).
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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My Computer > Tools Folder Options > View > Show Hidden Files and Folders > Uncheck - Hide Protected Operating System Files (Recommeded)....
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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My Computer > Tools Folder Options > View > Show Hidden Files and Folders > Uncheck - Hide Protected Operating System Files (Recommeded)....
Mine are all displayed - and I'm still off by 80MB.

Meh - who cares. I figure Bill Gates took my 80MB and put it in his pocket.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
My Computer > Tools Folder Options > View > Show Hidden Files and Folders > Uncheck - Hide Protected Operating System Files (Recommeded)....
Did that, which is how i included pagefile.sys.

Its still way off
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fla-tls
Mine are all displayed - and I'm still off by 80MB.

Meh - who cares. I figure Bill Gates took my 80MB and put it in his pocket.

I wouldnt care either about 80 megs. I'm off by a few gigs
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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when you install windows it always takes away like 80 mb and puts it to the side or something....very weird...i guess its for caching and stuff....
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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like i said maybe recheck your partition....start....programs...administrator tools....computer management....disk management....maybe you didnt put in the right number for the partition of the c: drive...cuz thats the only way gigs can be missing....
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AcUrAge703
when you install windows it always takes away like 80 mb and puts it to the side or something....very weird...i guess its for caching and stuff....
Never heard of that. I do know it will leave a few MB out of the partition in order to allow you to change the volume to dynamic disk from simple disk later on if you wish...

But that wouldn't affect anything fdl is experiencing.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AcUrAge703
like i said maybe recheck your partition....start....programs...administrator tools....computer management....disk management....maybe you didnt put in the right number for the partition of the c: drive...cuz thats the only way gigs can be missing....

Ya but its saying i have USED 10 gigs. If i left out 2 gigs on the partition, it just woudlnt show up right?
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Yes. You are comparing what disk management says to "size on disk" when you highlight all of the files/folders, right?

They difference between size and size of disk is the file slack (the unused space at the end of a cluster).
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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If I show all hidden files, then go into C: and highlight ALL folder and hit properties I get "Size: 7.23 GB (7,769,351,834 bytes), Size on disk: 7.08 GB (7,605,664,043 bytes)"

vs

If I go to C:\ in explorer and right click and go to properties (or go to disk management) I get "Used Space : 9.7GB"
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Its windows.............

Kind of falls under the category of "dont ask, dont tell"
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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whoa...that is weird....just checked my partition by doing the same thing you have...and yes there is 2 gigs un accounted for...so your not crazy....cuz i have a 30 gig drive and it says i have 24 used and 3 gigs free....that doesnt add up...so i think its what swervincl said...dont ask dont tell....
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
Kind of falls under the category of "dont ask, dont tell"


It's the kinda shit that makes me crazy about winbloz sometimes... Like when I'm in word or excel, and the program locks up for a second beause it's looking for the printer... Unless I hit print preview or print, I can't understand why it needs to check for a printer... :coco:

I sent an email to Bill Gates about it, and I'm still waiting for a reply
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Whiskers, are you a MCP/MCSE, or just a smart network/desktop guy
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Whiskers, are you a MCP/MCSE, or just a smart network/desktop guy

neither
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
Its windows.............

Kind of falls under the category of "dont ask, dont tell"


Every win installation I have done NT, W2K & XP never had the disk space right when creating a partition & formatting. As a result the drive was always smaller then what the drive actually was.
I'd say it has to do with how the NTFS file system works.

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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fat32 or ntfs?
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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fat32 has a "bug" lol

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article07-043
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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ntfs disk space errors:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

are you doing this as an administrator? or a user? maybe it is not including user dirs you don't have permission to read.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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That was the exact page I was going to put up.

MFT uses up a lot of space ( on my 80gb disk it uses almost 3gb) but that space doesn't show up when you select the files but it shows up under the size when you select all the files.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wipe0ut
ntfs disk space errors:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

are you doing this as an administrator? or a user? maybe it is not including user dirs you don't have permission to read.
Its NTFS.

I'm doing it as admin
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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That was the exact page I was going to put up.

MFT uses up a lot of space ( on my 80gb disk it uses almost 3gb) but that space doesn't show up when you select the files but it shows up under the size when you select all the files.

I dont think thats it, since its a new installation.
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