Microsoft: Windows 8 News and Discussion Thread
Can't get it to run in a VM (Vbox). Says CPU doesn't support... Tried it with both Intel and AMD CPUs in separate VMs, no go. Windows 8 Pro-64 is running fine in both VMs, but neither will install 8.1 update.
It seems that the desktop version of IE11 runs in "Enhanced Protected Mode" out of the box. Which is their super secure mode where add-ons don't run except for the embedded flash, ironically. I guess it's really about support, my guess is that all ActiveX controls don't currently support EPM and therefore don't run. MS must've worked with Adobe to get this version to work in EPM.
I also notice that my newTabs page has yet to fill in with anything while in EPM as well, not sure if that's a beta bug or a limitation of EPM.
I also notice that my newTabs page has yet to fill in with anything while in EPM as well, not sure if that's a beta bug or a limitation of EPM.
^This coincides with Netflix saying that you won't be required to use Silverlight to watch Netflix on your PC anymore, you can use HTML 5 video. Silverlight doesn't run in EPM and probably never will since MS has pretty much abandoned Silverlight.
EPM makes IE run like a mobile browser on your phone (Metro IE10 only ran in EPM), it's very isolated from the system. So it should help ease Netflix and it's fears of pirating.
EPM makes IE run like a mobile browser on your phone (Metro IE10 only ran in EPM), it's very isolated from the system. So it should help ease Netflix and it's fears of pirating.
Here's post describing EPM that came out in Metro IE 10, it was available on the desktop but not on by default like it is now in IE 11.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2...cted-mode.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2...cted-mode.aspx
If you go to silverlight.net you might get a prompt asking for permission to disable EPM on just that site in order to run silverlight. Like so
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Also that prompt disappears after about 10 seconds which is going to be a support nightmare. Refreshing the page brought it back though.
Unlike what was mentioned in the above blog post IE 11 doesn't run with 64bit EPM processes by default you have to enable that in Internet Options > Advanced and it requires a restart.
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Also that prompt disappears after about 10 seconds which is going to be a support nightmare. Refreshing the page brought it back though.
Unlike what was mentioned in the above blog post IE 11 doesn't run with 64bit EPM processes by default you have to enable that in Internet Options > Advanced and it requires a restart.
Microsoft is expanding its Xbox Music service today, nearly a year after it launched alongside Windows 8. Subscribers will now be able to access music on their iOS and Android devices thanks to new apps for both operating systems. Both apps are available today and provide basic access to music, with the ability to sync and change playlists, but no offline functionality to play songs without an internet or data connection.
Speaking to The Verge, Xbox Music general manager Jerry Johnson says the company will "be updating the apps every four to six weeks," and that an update is planned to support an offline mode in the coming months. The iOS and Android apps follow the launch of a web-based Xbox Music, and Microsoft is also making some changes to that particular version today. After previously launching to subscribers only, Xbox Music web will now offer free streaming to all browsers. After six months the web-based version will have limited hours of free streaming, but for now it's open to all with ads.
Social features planned for the future
While Microsoft's Xbox Music service has been a fairly solid but simple offering, the company hasn't expanded heavily into social features like rival Spotify. Microsoft regularly holds hack days where it experiments with future Xbox Music features, and Johnson says that "30 percent of our hack day stuff are social features." Microsoft is currently exploring how to best roll out social discovery and friend features. "The ability to autopost and see what others are listening to is love and hate," explains Johnson. We'll be careful about how we do it." Right now, Microsoft is expanding its service greatly, and "social will be a bigger priority down the road."
Xbox One version revealed
Microsoft is also launching the Xbox One on November 22nd, and Xbox Music will be a big part of the services available for the next-generation console. The software maker is previewing the user interface of Xbox Music on the Xbox One today. Essentially, it's a more refined version of the existing app for Xbox 360. As you'd expect it fits in with the new Xbox One user interface, and provides access to playlists, radio, featured artists, and the top charts. You can also pin content from the service in the Xbox One pins section.
Although the iOS and Android apps are fairly basic, and Microsoft's Windows Phone 8 version of Xbox Music needs some serious improvements, the service as a whole is shaping into a compelling offering for anyone who has a mix of devices. While Spotify and others are available across iOS, Android, Windows Phone, Windows, and Mac, Microsoft is also proving it has the ability to offer its own music service across its own software and on other popular devices. If Microsoft's promised "devices and services" strategy is going to pay off, that's an essential element for all of its services. At its heart Microsoft is still a software company, and its services need to be everywhere if they're going to succeed.
Speaking to The Verge, Xbox Music general manager Jerry Johnson says the company will "be updating the apps every four to six weeks," and that an update is planned to support an offline mode in the coming months. The iOS and Android apps follow the launch of a web-based Xbox Music, and Microsoft is also making some changes to that particular version today. After previously launching to subscribers only, Xbox Music web will now offer free streaming to all browsers. After six months the web-based version will have limited hours of free streaming, but for now it's open to all with ads.
Social features planned for the future
While Microsoft's Xbox Music service has been a fairly solid but simple offering, the company hasn't expanded heavily into social features like rival Spotify. Microsoft regularly holds hack days where it experiments with future Xbox Music features, and Johnson says that "30 percent of our hack day stuff are social features." Microsoft is currently exploring how to best roll out social discovery and friend features. "The ability to autopost and see what others are listening to is love and hate," explains Johnson. We'll be careful about how we do it." Right now, Microsoft is expanding its service greatly, and "social will be a bigger priority down the road."
Xbox One version revealed
Microsoft is also launching the Xbox One on November 22nd, and Xbox Music will be a big part of the services available for the next-generation console. The software maker is previewing the user interface of Xbox Music on the Xbox One today. Essentially, it's a more refined version of the existing app for Xbox 360. As you'd expect it fits in with the new Xbox One user interface, and provides access to playlists, radio, featured artists, and the top charts. You can also pin content from the service in the Xbox One pins section.
Although the iOS and Android apps are fairly basic, and Microsoft's Windows Phone 8 version of Xbox Music needs some serious improvements, the service as a whole is shaping into a compelling offering for anyone who has a mix of devices. While Spotify and others are available across iOS, Android, Windows Phone, Windows, and Mac, Microsoft is also proving it has the ability to offer its own music service across its own software and on other popular devices. If Microsoft's promised "devices and services" strategy is going to pay off, that's an essential element for all of its services. At its heart Microsoft is still a software company, and its services need to be everywhere if they're going to succeed.
If you copy and paste this link in a browser it may work
ms-windows-store:WindowsUpgrade
It isn't working for me and there's many complaints on the interwebs. It's looking like an Apple iOS launch! Get your shit together Microsoft!
ms-windows-store:WindowsUpgrade
It isn't working for me and there's many complaints on the interwebs. It's looking like an Apple iOS launch! Get your shit together Microsoft!
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM.
I love that network switching capability of Windows 8. I started downloading the update over a crappy wifi network but the internet the wifi is connected to is 75Mbps down. I was only getting 25Mbps down over wifi. So I plugged in an Ethernet cable able Win 8 immediately recognized that it was faster and seamlessly switched from downloading over wifi to going over Ethernet. Now downloading at 60Mbps. Bad ass!
I have Windows 8 now and I'm trying to find a way to clean install Windows 8.1. I've always clean installed from XP -> Vista -> 7 -> 8. Is 8 -> 8.1 a big enough upgrade to do a clean install? Is that even worth it?
Not yet, in the future they are going to have a source to do it. They cant get the upgrade right though.
copy and paste that link into a browser don't click! Doesn't work if you click, think that's AZs fault, it works on other sites by clicking but not here.
Currently on 8.1
Currently on 8.1
Why can't I find the update in the Store?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d-update-store
And there is a typo on that link
you need KB2871389
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2871389
After applying the update I now see 8.1 in the store.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d-update-store
And there is a typo on that link
you need KB2871389http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2871389
After applying the update I now see 8.1 in the store.
Last edited by doopstr; Oct 17, 2013 at 03:43 PM.
For anyone interested, here is the legit way of getting 8.1 ISO if you don't have TechNet or MSDN.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...oduct-key-only
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...oduct-key-only
I installed 8.1 on my laptop, which formerly had 8.0 on it. I am having a serious problem with IE11 now. I use the MVP HOSTS file, which blocks a lot of domains where ads are served from. IE11 now pauses for upwards of 3 seconds per blocked element. The network trace shows "aborted" for those requests, when it probably should say "404". I tried the same pages with Firefox and had no issues at all. I tried installing IIS locally, thinking IE would get a quick 404 error instead of timing out. No difference.
Aside from that, I like the little changes they've made. I think it's a good step forward.
Aside from that, I like the little changes they've made. I think it's a good step forward.
I think I got it now. I did reset the IE settings and that didn't help. So, I compared settings between my Win7 box and this laptop and disabled a few things. SPDY/3 is new, TLS 1.1 and 1.2. But the thing I think that fixed it was unchecking "Enable Enhanced Protection Mode", which required a restart. Now it's as fast as anything else.
And since I mentioned restarting, WTF is up with Windows 8 needing so many restarts? When Win7 came out MS was bragging about how they were able to eliminate lots of annoying restarts. I've had to restart when I installed IIS, reset IE, and disabled Enhanced Protection Mode. Most Windows updates require restarts, some multiple times.
And since I mentioned restarting, WTF is up with Windows 8 needing so many restarts? When Win7 came out MS was bragging about how they were able to eliminate lots of annoying restarts. I've had to restart when I installed IIS, reset IE, and disabled Enhanced Protection Mode. Most Windows updates require restarts, some multiple times.
I think I'm gonna try this hope it works 
Dual-booting Windows 8 and Mountain Lion natively using EFI
http://blog.thedeltaflyer.com/2013/0...ely-using-efi/

Dual-booting Windows 8 and Mountain Lion natively using EFI
http://blog.thedeltaflyer.com/2013/0...ely-using-efi/
It works! 
FYI, when you run
diskpart
select disk 0
clean
That deletes EVERYTHING, including the 10.9 recovery partition. I joined my wifi but didn't get the netboot option. Currently redownloading the Mavericks to copy the installation image to flash drive on my old MBP using the instructions Sly posted in the OS X thread. Might've been SOL if I didn't have another mac nearby.
Currently on 8.1 on my rMBP and it's working good and looking great. Fonts look better on 8.1 and it handles retina better than 8. Google Chrome still looks a little blurry though...

FYI, when you run
diskpart
select disk 0
clean
That deletes EVERYTHING, including the 10.9 recovery partition. I joined my wifi but didn't get the netboot option. Currently redownloading the Mavericks to copy the installation image to flash drive on my old MBP using the instructions Sly posted in the OS X thread. Might've been SOL if I didn't have another mac nearby.
Currently on 8.1 on my rMBP and it's working good and looking great. Fonts look better on 8.1 and it handles retina better than 8. Google Chrome still looks a little blurry though...
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; Nov 19, 2013 at 11:16 PM.
Because you can? I like knowing that Windows isn't running in an emulation mode when it doesn't have to. It also boots a little faster because you lose the few seconds of black screen with blinking cursor.
Also when booting Windows 8 natively the boot screens display isn't blurry it scales perfectly to the retina display, I know it's minor but it always annoyed me.
Also when booting Windows 8 natively the boot screens display isn't blurry it scales perfectly to the retina display, I know it's minor but it always annoyed me.
Microsoft codename 'Threshold': The next major Windows wave takes shape
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-coden...pe-7000023832/
When I blogged recently about Microsoft's plans on the operating-systems front following Windows 8.1, I mentioned a couple of "spring 2015" releases.
It turns out the Microsoft codename for that wave of deliverables is "Threshold."
A couple of my contacts have confirmed that Microsoft Executive Vice President Terry Myerson recently mentioned the Threshold codename in an internal email about plans for his unified operating-system engineering group.
If all goes according to early plans, Threshold will include updates to all three OS platforms (Xbox One, Windows and Windows Phone) that will advance them in a way to share even more common elements.
(The codename Threshold, for those wondering, derives from the planet around which the first halo ring orbited in the original Halo game launched back in 2001. Threshold joins "Cortana," Microsoft's answer to Siri, as yet another codename with its origins in the Xbox franchise.)
From what I've heard, Threshold doesn't refer to a single Windows OS -- not even the expected, converged hybrid comprised of the Windows Phone OS and Windows RT. Instead, the codename refers to the wave of operating systems across Windows-based phones, devices and gaming consoles.
The Xbox One OS, Windows 8.x OS and Windows Phone 8 OS already share a common Windows NT core. As we've heard before, Microsoft is working to deliver a single app store across its myriad Windows platforms. Company officials also are laboring to make the developer toolset for all three of these platforms more similar.
But Threshold will add another level of commonality across Microsoft's various Windows-based platforms, sources said. With the Threshold wave, Microsoft plans to support the same core set of "high value activities" across platforms. These high-value activities include expression/documents (Office, and the coming "Remix" digital storytelling app, I'd think); decision making/task completion (Bing, I'd assume); IT management (Intune and Workplace Join, perhaps?) and "serious fun."
CEO Steve Ballmer mentioned this concept of high-value activities at back in July when he announced Microsoft's cross-company reorg to make the company more focused around its new "One Microsoft" mission.
Before Microsoft gets to Threshold, the company is on track to deliver an update to Windows 8.1 (known as Windows 8.1 Update 1) around the same time that it delivers Windows Phone "Blue" (Windows Phone 8.1). That's supposedly happening in the spring 2014/Q2 2014 timeframe, from what my sources have said.
I've asked Microsoft officials if they'd confirm any of this information about Threshold. No word back so far.
It turns out the Microsoft codename for that wave of deliverables is "Threshold."
A couple of my contacts have confirmed that Microsoft Executive Vice President Terry Myerson recently mentioned the Threshold codename in an internal email about plans for his unified operating-system engineering group.
If all goes according to early plans, Threshold will include updates to all three OS platforms (Xbox One, Windows and Windows Phone) that will advance them in a way to share even more common elements.
(The codename Threshold, for those wondering, derives from the planet around which the first halo ring orbited in the original Halo game launched back in 2001. Threshold joins "Cortana," Microsoft's answer to Siri, as yet another codename with its origins in the Xbox franchise.)
From what I've heard, Threshold doesn't refer to a single Windows OS -- not even the expected, converged hybrid comprised of the Windows Phone OS and Windows RT. Instead, the codename refers to the wave of operating systems across Windows-based phones, devices and gaming consoles.
The Xbox One OS, Windows 8.x OS and Windows Phone 8 OS already share a common Windows NT core. As we've heard before, Microsoft is working to deliver a single app store across its myriad Windows platforms. Company officials also are laboring to make the developer toolset for all three of these platforms more similar.
But Threshold will add another level of commonality across Microsoft's various Windows-based platforms, sources said. With the Threshold wave, Microsoft plans to support the same core set of "high value activities" across platforms. These high-value activities include expression/documents (Office, and the coming "Remix" digital storytelling app, I'd think); decision making/task completion (Bing, I'd assume); IT management (Intune and Workplace Join, perhaps?) and "serious fun."
CEO Steve Ballmer mentioned this concept of high-value activities at back in July when he announced Microsoft's cross-company reorg to make the company more focused around its new "One Microsoft" mission.
Before Microsoft gets to Threshold, the company is on track to deliver an update to Windows 8.1 (known as Windows 8.1 Update 1) around the same time that it delivers Windows Phone "Blue" (Windows Phone 8.1). That's supposedly happening in the spring 2014/Q2 2014 timeframe, from what my sources have said.
I've asked Microsoft officials if they'd confirm any of this information about Threshold. No word back so far.










