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Old Oct 5, 2017 | 05:11 PM
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I don't like these updates that are really OS upgrades. Every time I get one of those I need to reload the audio drivers on my old Precision Workstation. I guess I should consider myself lucky that the network drivers work.
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Old Oct 5, 2017 | 06:39 PM
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I even checked the box where it says to don't download/install feature updates and it still downloaded it. I went in and turned off updates under Services for now. Let's see if they fix things with v. 1709
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Old Oct 5, 2017 | 11:30 PM
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You can only defer the upgrade by 6 months with 1607, with 1703 you can defer up to a year.
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Old Oct 6, 2017 | 06:43 AM
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I did the Creators Update yesterday. Wow these updates are so time consuming and taxing. Thank God for smartphones because my laptop was out of commission for like 3 hours.
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Old Oct 11, 2017 | 05:24 PM
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https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-...chines-to-bsod
Windows 10 mandatory October KB4041676 update is causing machines to BSOD
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Old Oct 11, 2017 | 06:50 PM
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I'd love to walk through a MS Board meeting swinging Lucille. Fucking mandatory updates, such assholes. If it wasn't for work, would have to deal with this shit!
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Old Oct 11, 2017 | 10:19 PM
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Meh, seems it only affected WSUS users who installed the update before the "Delta" update expired.
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Old Oct 12, 2017 | 12:40 AM
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My understanding is that since 10 they've mostly shut down their internal testing of patches and relied on their "Windows Insiders" to report bugs. It doesn't appear to be working, the number of issues caused by updates has definitely increased since this change.
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Old Dec 6, 2017 | 09:43 AM
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FYI the Windows 10 assistive technology free upgrade program ends on December 31st. After that you won’t be able to upgrade to Windows 10 for free anymore

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/acce...ndows10upgrade
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Old Dec 6, 2017 | 11:52 AM
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Yeah, I loved that loophole.
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 04:58 PM
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I drove a semi through that loophole
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 09:59 PM
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Is Windows 7 still better?
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 10:27 PM
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Windows 10 + Classic Shell > Windows 7
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 04:53 PM
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Windows Server 2016 is boss
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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 03:01 PM
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FYI there's some ridiculous ReFS backwards compatibility rules you should know about. First with build 1709 MS removed the ability to format ReFS drives the Pro version of Windows. You know need the new Pro Workstation version in order to format drives. Cool.

On top of that an ReFS drive formatted in build 1709 is not mountable on a PC running build 1703. Oh and if you thought you were smart and had a ReFS drive formatted in 1703 Pro that got updated to build 1709 and then decided to downgrade back to 1703 so you could keep the ability format ReFS drives, you will notice once you go back to 1703 your ReFS is no longer mountable. LOL Because MS updated the ReFS version to 3.3 and even though you originally formatted the drive on 1703 it's no longer readable on 1703. Fuck you. Pay me.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReFS#V..._compatibility
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Old Feb 7, 2018 | 03:56 PM
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OK, need some advice...

Wifey has laptop that had W7home premium pre-installed on it. I have the W7 license key code. I upgraded it to the free W10 last year.

The OS shit the bed and now won't boot (after last critical updates). I want to wipe it clean and re-install Windows.

How the hell do I do it? Do I need to download W7 home premium or can any W7 installer disc do it? Or, do I d/l and install a W10 ISO (from where?) and use the W7 key code on the sticker on the chassis?
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Old Feb 7, 2018 | 04:49 PM
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You can activate windows 10 home with your windows seven home license. Also Microsoft create a digital license that’s tied to her hardware so if you reinstall the OS in skip entering the product key during installation it may activate. But sent you have a windows seven key you can actually type in the windows seven key when prompted during windows 10 installation and that should act today. type the windows

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Old Feb 7, 2018 | 04:56 PM
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If you want Win 7 on there , install using disc or ISO

If you want Win 10 on there , install using disc or ISO

Your Win 7 key should work for both 7 and 10

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO


Win 10 has been a paint for me so I might be slightly biased

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Old Feb 7, 2018 | 05:44 PM
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Downloaded the W10 media creator, making a W10 install now. Tried doing a reset from the actual affected PC and it failed...
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Old Feb 7, 2018 | 05:47 PM
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Boot to the installer. Reinstall
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Old Feb 7, 2018 | 05:53 PM
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Boot to the installer. Reinstall
Tried, the re-install fails.

Its a Lenovo U300s
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Old Feb 7, 2018 | 05:56 PM
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If you are ok losing the data, make sure to delete the partitions then do the install. If the install fails, then either the installer is bad or the hardware is bad.
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Old Feb 8, 2018 | 06:58 AM
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Had the same issue as stogie with my HP. Hardrive went bad on me. I'll rebuild it later in the month.
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Old Feb 9, 2018 | 09:55 AM
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Used a W10 media making tool, re-installed W10 on the laptop. I chose to "skip" entering a key code and it seems to be fine. Maybe it will prompt after 30 days? Now, to buy a license of Office Home for her...
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Old Feb 9, 2018 | 10:00 AM
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Go to activation and see if its activated
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Old Feb 9, 2018 | 06:08 PM
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If it says activated by digital license then MS recognized her hardware and just activated it automatically

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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 01:21 PM
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fuck you Microsoft

been putting it off, despite the constant reminders... finally the update was pushed through, and now I can't print to my HP plotter.

man, it pisses me off when they push their shitty updates through.
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 01:54 PM
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fuck you Microsoft

been putting it off, despite the constant reminders... finally the update was pushed through, and now I can't print to my HP plotter.

man, it pisses me off when they push their shitty updates through.
oooh! I can print PDF's... so I just have to convert anything I want to print to a PDF and then print that. Phew.

again, Fuck Microsoft.
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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by brian2
fuck you Microsoft

been putting it off, despite the constant reminders... finally the update was pushed through, and now I can't print to my HP plotter.

man, it pisses me off when they push their shitty updates through.
Sooooo ... in other words .... Microsoft has foiled your plot






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Old Feb 12, 2018 | 03:35 PM
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Old Feb 13, 2018 | 10:59 PM
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You can uninstall the update, but first try reinstalling the plotter drivers that usually gets a printer working after an update. I've had this work a couple times. Go to device manager right click on the printer and choose update driver and let Windows search automatically for a driver and see if it finds anything. Sometimes that fixes it. If not then remove the printer and readd it. If that doesn't work go to settings > updates > recovery and choose go back to previous build. You've only got 10 days after the upgrade to do this or you're pretty much stuck there.
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 06:19 AM
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I know all the tricks... I've done this plenty of times before. It's BS that I have to waste my time doing this crap when I didn't want the update to begin with. I wish I could send them a bill for my time.
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 09:05 AM
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Got her going... I get this on the plotter, but it still plots so, meh.

"So after I get her working, let me turn off automatic updates...." Oh, Windows as taken away the ability to turn off updates.

Fuck you, Microsoft.... Seriously,

FUCK.

YOU.
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 11:48 AM
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 02:14 PM
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^ I've tried that. Doesn't work. It's only a temporary solution. In my case, after a few boot ups, Windows will manually override that "disabled" setting and check for updates in the background. I saw it happen right in front of my eyes one time when I was in Services and saw "Disabled" change to "Running" and "Manual (Triggered)"



What I have to do is start my PC with ethernet cable unplugged from ethernet port, wait 1-2 minutes to let Windows do its background checks (which I believe includes checking for Windows updates), then re-connect ethernet cable after Windows detects there's no internet connection and Windows update check fails.

If I forget to do the above and PC downloads update files, I have to go to C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download and delete all (Windows update) files from folder so there's nothing to install.

Been doing this since Oct. 2017. Pain in the ass and I haven't installed 1 single update since then.
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 04:41 PM
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That's fucked up. Is there some DNS name it tries to resolve to connect? If so, then how about the old 127.0.0.1 trick in hosts file?
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 04:46 PM
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I can confirm that if you disable Window Update it will re-enable itself
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Old Mar 8, 2018 | 08:18 AM
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Probably what I should do is get a dedicated machine to run the plotter... Can I attach to the network and turn off the internet on that machine only?
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Old Mar 11, 2018 | 12:40 PM
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Yeah give it a static IP address but don't assign it a gateway address, then it won't be able to communicate with external networks since it can't find the gateway
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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 10:08 AM
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Ok seriously how do you stop updates? I got a VM that has issues and I have to basically restore from backup everytime updates are installed. I paused updates for 35 days, it hasn't been 35 days (maybe 3 weeks) and I heard complaints that it wasn't working again. I open the update app, it says updates are still paused, I check update history and it installed a bunch of updates on Friday the day that it stopped working.

I could block update.microsoft.com in the HOSTS file but this shit is getting ridiculous.
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