Apple: iPhone OS 4.0 News Thread
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I liked birthday calendar, sms and mms search results, find and delete mail search results, edit from outbox and change image size in mail messages. I want to know more about persistant wifi and wake on wireless; I wonder if wake on wireless is that new feature in snow leopard.
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Lots of screenshots here:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/new...appear-online/
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/new...appear-online/
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Palm Pre Plus bro! It's only $50 AND the tethering capability is FREE!!!!!!!! Compared to $60/mo for a mifi.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/01/v...ices-now-free/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/01/v...ices-now-free/
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Apple always seems to be a step behind and playing catch up. The thing is, when they do catch up they do it really well, better than those before them did it.
Doesn't seem to be the case here, I thought Apple's multitasking was going to blow Androids away, but it really doesn't. It's not even really full multitasking.
Doesn't seem to be the case here, I thought Apple's multitasking was going to blow Androids away, but it really doesn't. It's not even really full multitasking.
it does make sense imo, there really isnt a need for an app to be 100% running in the background while you're doing something else.
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Aside from the aforementioned about to background Pandora, I still don't see what the big deal is. I have Backgrounder installed and I've used it a whopping 10 times at most, and that was all in the first 2 weeks that I had it. Now it's like Internet Explorer on my computer.... it just sits there collecting dust, waiting for an opportunity to be useful.
I still can't get over the fact that only iPods/Phones are capable of syncing and being controlled with the average OE car stereo through USB. Has anyone tried this yet, with a Zune for example? Or any other phone that carries a lot of music?
It would make me a lot more willing to part with the iPhone. Not that I am, but the convenience of not having to buy and carry an iPod aside from my phone and being able to control everything from my OE radio is priceless, and it charges the phone too.
I still can't get over the fact that only iPods/Phones are capable of syncing and being controlled with the average OE car stereo through USB. Has anyone tried this yet, with a Zune for example? Or any other phone that carries a lot of music?
It would make me a lot more willing to part with the iPhone. Not that I am, but the convenience of not having to buy and carry an iPod aside from my phone and being able to control everything from my OE radio is priceless, and it charges the phone too.
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I'm not sure how many head units support that even with the iPod. When I was doing my researching, it seemed that it only did it via flash drives, and it just read the folders on the drive. Didn't see anything about using the iPods even in disk mode, but that may have changed.
Microsoft touted a couple of years ago about new head units out there that would support the Zune, but they are few and far between. The slick interface I can use now is one of the main reasons I'll probably stick with the iPhone for the foreseeable future.
BTW - I got your message and I'm working on a response - may take a bit.
Microsoft touted a couple of years ago about new head units out there that would support the Zune, but they are few and far between. The slick interface I can use now is one of the main reasons I'll probably stick with the iPhone for the foreseeable future.
BTW - I got your message and I'm working on a response - may take a bit.
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I'm not sure how many head units support that even with the iPod. When I was doing my researching, it seemed that it only did it via flash drives, and it just read the folders on the drive. Didn't see anything about using the iPods even in disk mode, but that may have changed.
Microsoft touted a couple of years ago about new head units out there that would support the Zune, but they are few and far between. The slick interface I can use now is one of the main reasons I'll probably stick with the iPhone for the foreseeable future.
BTW - I got your message and I'm working on a response - may take a bit.
Microsoft touted a couple of years ago about new head units out there that would support the Zune, but they are few and far between. The slick interface I can use now is one of the main reasons I'll probably stick with the iPhone for the foreseeable future.
BTW - I got your message and I'm working on a response - may take a bit.
and thanks.... take your time, hope you don't mind. It's a probably life-changing decision for me, and I want to make sure I want to do it. The more detailed, the better.
fixed.... Jesus I need to sleep. Some of the things I'm typing aren't making sense.
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What about IM apps? Games? It will up to the third-party to code their app with the ability to pause or hold the process open. It's like this multitasking was forced into the update unwillingly. Maybe just to piss off Google and payback for pinch-zoom.
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You would think this would be a given.
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Steve Jobs Confirms Lack of Future Support for Original iPhone
Monday April 12, 2010 01:11 PM EST; Category: iPhone
Written by Eric Slivka
iPhone OS 4 Compatibility
Just in case there was any doubt regarding Apple's plans to not support the original iPhone with iPhone OS 4, Apple CEO Steve Jobs has now weighed in on the matter with one of his typically terse emails. MacStories reports that a Twitter user sent an email to Jobs asking about future support for the original iPhone, to which Jobs responded "Sorry, no."
Apple's preview page for iPhone OS 4 also omits compatibility for the first-generation iPod touch. The iPhone 3G and second-generation iPod touch (which includes the 8 GB model still available for sale today) will be compatible with iPhone OS 4, but will lack support for certain features such as multitasking. Only the iPhone 3GS and third-generation iPod touch (and future hardware) will support all of the features of iPhone OS 4.
Monday April 12, 2010 01:11 PM EST; Category: iPhone
Written by Eric Slivka
iPhone OS 4 Compatibility
Just in case there was any doubt regarding Apple's plans to not support the original iPhone with iPhone OS 4, Apple CEO Steve Jobs has now weighed in on the matter with one of his typically terse emails. MacStories reports that a Twitter user sent an email to Jobs asking about future support for the original iPhone, to which Jobs responded "Sorry, no."
Apple's preview page for iPhone OS 4 also omits compatibility for the first-generation iPod touch. The iPhone 3G and second-generation iPod touch (which includes the 8 GB model still available for sale today) will be compatible with iPhone OS 4, but will lack support for certain features such as multitasking. Only the iPhone 3GS and third-generation iPod touch (and future hardware) will support all of the features of iPhone OS 4.
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I imagine it's probably worth waiting for the next gen iPhone and hope that it has the new Apple A4 chip? I imagine that once an A4 iPhone hits the street all the current one will be forgotten by Steve.
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The thing that's going to suck the most about OS 4 is the double tap to multi-task thing now you won't be able to double-tap to do all those other functions (home screen, search, camera, favorites, iPod controls). This is where Jobs hatred of buttons rears it's ugly head. From what I hear if you want to bring up the ipod controls with a double tap you have to lock the screen first then do it but that's lame. why not just put a dedicated search button, and camera button on the device. taking a pic with one hand is almost impossible on the iPhone cause Steve Jobs hates buttons, it's getting to be re-god-damn-diculous!
the only difference internally from what I can remember is that the 3g has the 3g chip (
) but also has GPS and a chip that supports MMS.
at least we didn't fall for it
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Originally Posted by Engadget
Apple under preliminary antitrust investigation over iPhone, triggered by complaint from Adobe
We'd heard a somewhat sketchy report from the New York Post yesterday that the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission were considering launching an antitrust inquiry into Apple and its various iPhone-related practices, and now it's being confirmed by Reuters and the Wall Street Journal, who say the inquiry was triggered by complaints from Apple's competitors and app developers -- specifically Adobe, according to Bloomberg. The DOJ and FTC are currently deciding which agency will take the lead in any inquiry, but if and when it gets underway there are a few issues at play: the first is obviously Apple's decision to block Flash and other middleware from app development, and the second is Apple's new iAd platform, which comes with its own changes to the iPhone developer agreement that could potentially lock out third-party ad and analytics services like AdMob -- itself under regulatory scrutiny due to the Google acquisition -- and Flurry.
We'd also imagine regulators will take a close look at Apple's App Store policies in general, but from a distance looks like the focus is on mobile advertising: both Apple and Google have made aggressive moves into the space in recent months, and both have come under regulatory scrutiny. We'll just have to wait and see how this one plays out -- there's still no official word from either agency on what's happening, and the timeline of any potential investigation and lawsuit will be measured in months and years
We'd heard a somewhat sketchy report from the New York Post yesterday that the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission were considering launching an antitrust inquiry into Apple and its various iPhone-related practices, and now it's being confirmed by Reuters and the Wall Street Journal, who say the inquiry was triggered by complaints from Apple's competitors and app developers -- specifically Adobe, according to Bloomberg. The DOJ and FTC are currently deciding which agency will take the lead in any inquiry, but if and when it gets underway there are a few issues at play: the first is obviously Apple's decision to block Flash and other middleware from app development, and the second is Apple's new iAd platform, which comes with its own changes to the iPhone developer agreement that could potentially lock out third-party ad and analytics services like AdMob -- itself under regulatory scrutiny due to the Google acquisition -- and Flurry.
We'd also imagine regulators will take a close look at Apple's App Store policies in general, but from a distance looks like the focus is on mobile advertising: both Apple and Google have made aggressive moves into the space in recent months, and both have come under regulatory scrutiny. We'll just have to wait and see how this one plays out -- there's still no official word from either agency on what's happening, and the timeline of any potential investigation and lawsuit will be measured in months and years
Imagine if Microsoft said you could only use Internet Explorer and Windows Live Mail and Window Media Player and you couldn't use any other 3rd party programs instead. Also all 3rd party programs must be made using the .Net framework and Visual Studio any and all 3rd party development platforms (java, flash, adobe air) are banned. How long do think that'd last? I'm surprised it took this long for someone to say something.
Microsoft is now not including Mail and Photo programs in Windows 7 (they are available as a separate download) in order to avoid potential anti-trust violations. Welcome to the real word, Apple. I was hoping you'd learn from MS mistakes but it appears in many areas that you haven't.
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I mean good God! Do they even think about this before they make these rules!?!? Or does Steve think Apple is untouchable and above the law? Sounds like a good movie title
....starring Steven Segall as Steve Jobs, I'd watch that shit! This summer, Steve Jobs in 3-D cockpunches the competition and consumers in iPhone OS 4!
....starring Steven Segall as Steve Jobs, I'd watch that shit! This summer, Steve Jobs in 3-D cockpunches the competition and consumers in iPhone OS 4!
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I mean good God! Do they even think about this before they make these rules!?!? Or does Steve think Apple is untouchable and above the law? Sounds like a good movie title ....starring Steven Segall as Steve Jobs, I'd watch that shit! This summer, Steve Jobs in 3-D cockpunches the competition and consumers in iPhone OS 4!
....starring Steven Segall as Steve Jobs, I'd watch that shit! This summer, Steve Jobs in 3-D cockpunches the competition and consumers in iPhone OS 4!