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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 02:11 PM
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That's just apples stance on privcy. Just like how theyre locking down their phones even to law enforcement and forcing them to goto the user instead for access.
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Why not?

Why claim they don't track purchases then, if they really are.

If they are found out to be then that would probably result in a big legal nightmare.


It's like those people I've been reading about who called Apple with getting help on Apple pay purchases, they tell them they can't do anything but to contact their bank/cc or merchant because they don't see anything





Originally Posted by Mizouse
That's just apples stance on privcy. Just like how theyre locking down their phones even to law enforcement and forcing them to goto the user instead for access.
Miz, you have around long enough to know that even if these claims are true (not saying they are), there will be a small, unnoticeable change to the TOS once the payment system is fully adopted allowing apple to monetize the info.

There are two reasons Apple is building in user-controlled encryption:
1. the perception of apple as complicit with the government if they don't build it in
2. the significant resources apple has to invest in time/money/personnel to assist the government in accessing data
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 02:48 PM
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Apple most likely has plans to collect and monetize the data eventually, but I could be wrong. It could benefit them to become the global leader in secure and easy payment processing with the promise of no data sharing, which would likely increase sales across their product lines. Once Apple gets you into their brand, you're one step closer to using their i____, i____, and i_____.
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Miz, you have around long enough to know that even if these claims are true (not saying they are), there will be a small, unnoticeable change to the TOS once the payment system is fully adopted allowing apple to monetize the info.

There are two reasons Apple is building in user-controlled encryption:
1. the perception of apple as complicit with the government if they don't build it in
2. the significant resources apple has to invest in time/money/personnel to assist the government in accessing data


Ok.
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Devil Dog 21
Apple most likely has plans to collect and monetize the data eventually, but I could be wrong. It could benefit them to become the global leader in secure and easy payment processing with the promise of no data sharing, which would likely increase sales across their product lines. Once Apple gets you into their brand, you're one step closer to using their i____, i____, and i_____.
What have you read that makes you think that?
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
I understand this and, frankly, am OK with it. I think it is disingenuous for apple to claim that this is not going to occur with applePay.
They have already stated that they have NO intentions of doing so. So to keep harping on it as if they have said they will is pointless or you're just being a troll about it.
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 05:11 PM
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How is the health app with the iPhone?

google just released fit and it sucks balls.
im not to sure if im just too advanced for just a step counter...or if a step counter is too basic for me.

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I guess I would have to get a wearable to take advantage of other features.
question answered....

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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
They have already stated that they have NO intentions of doing so. So to keep harping on it as if they have said they will is pointless or you're just being a troll about it.
All I have ever really said is that MOST companies initially say they have no intention of (insert activity here) and then a year and a half or three down the road, once the technology is full integrated with users, the companies simply 'decide' otherwise and change the TOS.

I think I am correct to be skeptical of a claim to never monetize highly coveted data that is monetized by nearly all others with access to it.
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
I understand this and, frankly, am OK with it. I think it is disingenuous for apple to claim that this is not going to occur with applePay.
It's covered by the Apple tax you pay on every device.
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Old Oct 29, 2014 | 09:45 PM
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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Monoprice seems to be out of most of the 3ft usb-lighting cables.

Anyone have a line on good cheap ones for charging only?
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 11:25 AM
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There are cheaper ones on amazon, wondering if anyone has USED any of them and if so, which.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 11:35 AM
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Just be careful with 3rd party non mfi certified cables and accessories. They're made too cheap and can cause your phone to short circuit or catch on fire. Spend the extra dollar or 2 or 3 and get certified accesories.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 11:48 AM
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^What he said. How much are the 3 footers on monoprice and why do I feel like the AmazonBasics are actually cheaper?
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Just be careful with 3rd party non mfi certified cables and accessories. They're made too cheap and can cause your phone to short circuit or catch on fire. Spend the extra dollar or 2 or 3 and get certified accesories.
Yup, MFI only, just wondering if anyone has bought any particular ones that work well.

Monoprice sells them for ~$12, but is currently out of stock for the 3ft cables.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
What have you read that makes you think that?
Absolutely nothing, but no company makes the type of investment that Apple is making for Apple Pay for no reason. I'm not saying they definitely will monetize the data, it's just a guess. As I stated, they could be doing it for the sole purpose of getting more people into the Apple ecosystem which could lead to more device sales.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 12:11 PM
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Apple is making money already with Apple pay. They get 0.5% of each transaction.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Apple is making money already with Apple pay. They get 0.5% of each transaction.
Didn't know that. I guess 0.5% will pay them a nice sum in no time if successful.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Devil Dog 21
Didn't know that. I guess 0.5% will pay them a nice sum in no time if successful.
They need it for sure.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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They need it for sure.
Becoming Skynet isn't cheap
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Yup, MFI only, just wondering if anyone has bought any particular ones that work well.

Monoprice sells them for ~$12, but is currently out of stock for the 3ft cables.
So the Amazon cables are cheaper...and from Amazon not Monoprice.

Seems like a no brainer.

I have a bunch of them, they are nice. Better than OEM even.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 01:32 PM
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 01:51 PM
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Never used Monoprice cables but i have used Amazon Basics and they are great cables!
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 06:35 PM
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Only 9 phones?

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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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First iOS8 fuck up...somehow all my texts disappeared. poof.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 11:33 AM
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Someone's lightning cable broke again


And no it wasn't me, I'm still using my launch day iphone 5 cable.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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WTF is "Kum and Go"?

Sounds like a drive through peep show.
came across one earlier in the year - on a roadtrip to Iowa... had to snap a pic lol

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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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This pisses me off. When no keyboard comes up.


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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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I only get that with 3rd party keyboards. So I turned that shit off.

Mine keeps crashing or freezing up.

I'd be in the middle of typing something and the damn thing just locks up. Have to do a force shutdown.

iOS 8 has been so buggy. Can't wait until they squish all of them.
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 07:37 AM
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Is this the buggiest OS so far? I've never heard of so many glitches or just don't remember. I've had a 3GS and a 4 from 3.0 to 7.0.
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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I waited for 8.0.1 and I haven't had a single issue. Lol
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 09:30 AM
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Definitely buggiest iPhone OS/iOS I've ever experienced
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Apple QA, you're debugging it wrong.
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
I only get that with 3rd party keyboards. So I turned that shit off.

Mine keeps crashing or freezing up.

I'd be in the middle of typing something and the damn thing just locks up. Have to do a force shutdown.

iOS 8 has been so buggy. Can't wait until they squish all of them.
Did you upgrade or do clean install? If upgraded, then you need to do clean install.
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 11:56 AM
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It's a brand new phone.
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 08:05 AM
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Haven't been thrilled with all the bugs either. Guessing all the engineers are getting sucked over the help finish the watch software and shit is getting missed as a result?
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 08:28 AM
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That plus I really do think they have something big planned for TV...

I still don't understand why there isn't an App Store for aTV.
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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Haven't been thrilled with all the bugs either. Guessing all the engineers are getting sucked over the help finish the watch software and shit is getting missed as a result?
I think this is what happens when you try to push out a new OS every year.
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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I ordered a 6 plus with ATT at the end of September and finally reached the first day of my 2 week shipping window. For those who've ordered from ATT, did they ship your phones closer to the beginning of the window or was it just a random day during it? After almost 7 weeks of waiting I'm starting to get antsy for my phone. lol
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