Apple: Hardware News and Discussion Thread
06-17-2020, 01:51 PM
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8TB SSD 
06-22-2020, 03:55 PM
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Apple officially switching to ARM chips. Appears to be across the lineup. No timeline announced. Probably won't be until USB 4 comes out at a minimum. Maybe Intel screwed itself when they allowed Thunderbolt to become part of USB 4. Then Apple had no need incentive to keep using Intel processors.
06-22-2020, 04:12 PM
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Smart move on their part. There will suddenly be an overflow of apps available for mac as IOS developers port their stuff to mac.
06-22-2020, 04:42 PM
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All beta'ed up here.
06-22-2020, 08:21 PM
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Be there soon
still sticking to 10.14, I need it for work
still sticking to 10.14, I need it for work
06-22-2020, 10:06 PM
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Any of you “developers” picking up the Mac mini with the A12Z?
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06-22-2020, 10:12 PM
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Apple officially switching to ARM chips. Appears to be across the lineup. No timeline announced. Probably won't be until USB 4 comes out at a minimum. Maybe Intel screwed itself when they allowed Thunderbolt to become part of USB 4. Then Apple had no need incentive to keep using Intel processors.
how long is many? Who knows but if I recall the G5 Mac didn’t last that long before being replaced by the Mac Pro.
06-22-2020, 10:25 PM
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RIP my 2012 Mac Mini. 
06-22-2020, 10:57 PM
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meh
my stuff has been “unsupported” for a while but this dude keeps patching to make older hardware work with newer versions of OSX: macOS Catalina Patcher
just installed Catalina on a ‘09 MBP
my stuff has been “unsupported” for a while but this dude keeps patching to make older hardware work with newer versions of OSX: macOS Catalina Patcher
just installed Catalina on a ‘09 MBP
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06-22-2020, 11:14 PM
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Only 10Gbps USB-C, 5Gbps USB-A and HDMI 2.0.
802.11 AC, BT 5.0 and gigabit ethernet.
I'm guessing that means no wifi 6?
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06-23-2020, 10:00 AM
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Tim Apple told developers that they plan to release an ARM based Mac this year and that the transition will take 2 years.
there’s a rumor that a 13in MBP and an iMac will be the first ARM Macs. I don’t buy the t though. I think the MacBook will be first
there’s a rumor that a 13in MBP and an iMac will be the first ARM Macs. I don’t buy the t though. I think the MacBook will be first
07-18-2020, 02:50 PM
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08-04-2020, 10:21 AM
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updated iMacs released. No design change. Updated to 10th gen Intel chips.
1080p facetime. T2 chip. nano texture display. True Tone. next gen AMD GPU.
Comes standard now with SSD.
https://www.apple.com/imac/
1080p facetime. T2 chip. nano texture display. True Tone. next gen AMD GPU.
Comes standard now with SSD.
https://www.apple.com/imac/
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08-04-2020, 10:35 AM
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$3399 for 10 core 20 thread i9, 8GB RAM, 1TB SSD & 5700 XT 
08-04-2020, 11:37 AM
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Will be the worst selling iMac out there.
08-04-2020, 12:06 PM
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Damn that nano texture is $450!
I hope that becomes cheaper and available on the laptops, I'd probably ad it. I imagine it'd be cheaper to do on the 13in laptops than the 27in iMac. Apple charges $1000 for the same nano texture on the Pro XDR display
I hope that becomes cheaper and available on the laptops, I'd probably ad it. I imagine it'd be cheaper to do on the 13in laptops than the 27in iMac. Apple charges $1000 for the same nano texture on the Pro XDR display
08-04-2020, 12:28 PM
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Apple is prohibitively expensive for everything.
08-04-2020, 01:10 PM
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08-04-2020, 01:16 PM
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Also base line iMac Pro now starts with the Xeon 10 core chip upgrade option. Nothing else changed.
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08-04-2020, 01:43 PM
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It's their matte screen option, it's supposed to be better than the matte film
08-04-2020, 01:49 PM
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i see. well my current computer is indoors and not facing any windows or lamps. so probably not necessary for me
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08-04-2020, 02:14 PM
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Not necessarily that much more expensive.
I just quickly built a similar 10th gen i9 build on PC Part Picker.
Runs about $3100, but that doesn't come with a 5K display. Has a 4K BenQ 10-bit monitor.
Also no thunderbolt 3 (does have 10gigabit USB 3.2) and normally a 5700 XT comes with only 8GB VRAM.
I did add 32GB of RAM thou.
Also added a 970 Pro instead of the EVO since people say that the EVO is not "comparable" to what SSD Apple offers.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9b8Qmg
I just quickly built a similar 10th gen i9 build on PC Part Picker.
Runs about $3100, but that doesn't come with a 5K display. Has a 4K BenQ 10-bit monitor.
Also no thunderbolt 3 (does have 10gigabit USB 3.2) and normally a 5700 XT comes with only 8GB VRAM.
I did add 32GB of RAM thou.
Also added a 970 Pro instead of the EVO since people say that the EVO is not "comparable" to what SSD Apple offers.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9b8Qmg
08-04-2020, 02:19 PM
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Ohh and that doesn't even include windows 10. but i think you can get that for either free or really cheap.
08-04-2020, 02:23 PM
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Whens that second stimulus coming, I do need a new computer to replace my aging 2012 Mini. 
08-04-2020, 03:56 PM
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08-04-2020, 08:30 PM
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Just realized it was only the 27 inch iMac that was updated to 10th gen.
So similar to the 13 inch MBP in the base remained at 8th and the higher end was bumped to 10th.
I guess that makes sense if the rumored 14" MBP and 24" iMac based off Apple Silicon are released first.
So similar to the 13 inch MBP in the base remained at 8th and the higher end was bumped to 10th.
I guess that makes sense if the rumored 14" MBP and 24" iMac based off Apple Silicon are released first.
08-06-2020, 11:54 AM
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Should've seen it coming since the 27 inch has the T2 chip, but the SSD are now soldered on to the board.
Would've been nice if they made an m.2 port (or their proprietary connection ala mac pro) accessible behind the memory cover.
Would've been nice if they made an m.2 port (or their proprietary connection ala mac pro) accessible behind the memory cover.
08-14-2020, 10:25 AM
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You can get $200 off a MacBook Pro at Best Buy
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/promo/s...0&mpid=1310690
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/promo/s...0&mpid=1310690
08-14-2020, 01:27 PM
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I’m actually thinking of going with the 27” iMac now.
was originally thinking a 13” MBP, but then I thought about it more. How often would I actually travel with it. Or would it end up being used majority in clamshell mode. Also they don’t have a discrete GPU.
then I was thinking about an i7 Mac mini, but also no discrete GPU. and if I added on a eGPU+5700 XT, I’d be at the cost of the top tier iMac w/ the i7.
i could go with the base 16” but again I don’t ever think I’ll travel with it. Also not a fan of that size. Also reviews show the iMac outperforming it (which should be expected)
was originally thinking a 13” MBP, but then I thought about it more. How often would I actually travel with it. Or would it end up being used majority in clamshell mode. Also they don’t have a discrete GPU.
then I was thinking about an i7 Mac mini, but also no discrete GPU. and if I added on a eGPU+5700 XT, I’d be at the cost of the top tier iMac w/ the i7.
i could go with the base 16” but again I don’t ever think I’ll travel with it. Also not a fan of that size. Also reviews show the iMac outperforming it (which should be expected)
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08-14-2020, 01:31 PM
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It wasn’t mentioned but apparently the 2020 iMac’s display supports HDR10.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210980
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210980
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08-21-2020, 12:00 PM
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Someone got hold of an AirPower. Wow looks complex
Video here:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Hv...nique_k=9pTmgz
Video here:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Hv...nique_k=9pTmgz
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08-21-2020, 04:21 PM
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09-25-2020, 01:29 PM
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Apple Watch Solo Loop bands are really nice. More comfortable, less bulky, and less weight than the sport bands.
John Gruber figured out that the Solo Loop sizes match up with the Sport Band holes. I used this to determine my size and it fits perfectly
John Gruber figured out that the Solo Loop sizes match up with the Sport Band holes. I used this to determine my size and it fits perfectly
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09-25-2020, 01:40 PM
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It weighs less than half as much as the sport band.
09-25-2020, 01:57 PM
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Interesting. Is it stretchy like a rubber band?
it basically makes the watch like a bracelet?
it basically makes the watch like a bracelet?
09-25-2020, 02:23 PM
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Yes, the texture feels very similar to the sport band but it's much more stretchy.
09-25-2020, 03:06 PM
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I hope they don’t loosen over time. My sport band has loosened over time.
anyways I think I won’t be updating my series 3 until the series 7.
not quite that compelling for me to get the series 6.
Only annoying thing was upgrading to 6.2.8.
required 2.1GB, I only had 1.8 available.
I don’t have many apps installed so uninstalling all my apps wasn’t enough.
found out email was taking up 500mb, so I told the watch to only include email from an empty folder.
freed up enough space to update.
Probably won’t be able to update to watchOS 7 since it needs 3.1gb and I have only 2.4gb free.
the 8gb capacity is so limiting on the series 3
anyways I think I won’t be updating my series 3 until the series 7.
not quite that compelling for me to get the series 6.
Only annoying thing was upgrading to 6.2.8.
required 2.1GB, I only had 1.8 available.
I don’t have many apps installed so uninstalling all my apps wasn’t enough.
found out email was taking up 500mb, so I told the watch to only include email from an empty folder.
freed up enough space to update.
Probably won’t be able to update to watchOS 7 since it needs 3.1gb and I have only 2.4gb free.
the 8gb capacity is so limiting on the series 3
09-25-2020, 04:33 PM
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I hope they don’t loosen over time. My sport band has loosened over time.
anyways I think I won’t be updating my series 3 until the series 7.
not quite that compelling for me to get the series 6.
Only annoying thing was upgrading to 6.2.8.
required 2.1GB, I only had 1.8 available.
I don’t have many apps installed so uninstalling all my apps wasn’t enough.
found out email was taking up 500mb, so I told the watch to only include email from an empty folder.
freed up enough space to update.
Probably won’t be able to update to watchOS 7 since it needs 3.1gb and I have only 2.4gb free.
the 8gb capacity is so limiting on the series 3
anyways I think I won’t be updating my series 3 until the series 7.
not quite that compelling for me to get the series 6.
Only annoying thing was upgrading to 6.2.8.
required 2.1GB, I only had 1.8 available.
I don’t have many apps installed so uninstalling all my apps wasn’t enough.
found out email was taking up 500mb, so I told the watch to only include email from an empty folder.
freed up enough space to update.
Probably won’t be able to update to watchOS 7 since it needs 3.1gb and I have only 2.4gb free.
the 8gb capacity is so limiting on the series 3
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