NFL: 2011 Season News and Discussion Thread
12-12-2011, 08:14 PM
#961
Senior Moderator
Giants count?
12-12-2011, 08:55 PM
#963
There actually are studies that prove a style of leadership that Tebow demonstrates is more effective than other approaches (yelling, demeaning, etc). I wonder if his consistant attitude of lifting his teammates up and consistantly praising them and not himself got these tangible results?
As stated, this team isn't too different than the one that started 1-5. When it gave up in previous games, it sees hope in these, and that leads to tangible results.
His teammates clearly believe, as demonstrated by Prater's comments last night and Von Miller's comments for the last two months. Willpower is an incredible asset.
As stated, this team isn't too different than the one that started 1-5. When it gave up in previous games, it sees hope in these, and that leads to tangible results.
His teammates clearly believe, as demonstrated by Prater's comments last night and Von Miller's comments for the last two months. Willpower is an incredible asset.
12-12-2011, 09:10 PM
#965
I'm not disagreeing with you and never have. He is a leader. Not a 100% QB (well not yet). I just don't like people giving him so much credit just because hes a Christian and that he is winning games. It is a team game. Its the people, not Tebow or the team (that I have a problem with).
Yeah it would be better if he was out running around in bars raping underage women, driving around drunk and killing people or getting arrested for beating his wife/ girlfriend or just the woman who happens to be the mother of his kid.
He doesn't force anyone to receive how he lives and who cares if he gives thanks, hell many players do and the next morning they're in jail from getting caught speeding/drunk when leaving the strip club.
But I knew where your hate was coming from, knew it would eventually come out.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/12/church.../#.TubCh2Mr2nA
Last edited by jupitersolo; 12-12-2011 at 09:12 PM.
12-12-2011, 09:27 PM
#966
I shoot people
ugh, I'm not even watching the game, but all I know is... the Seahawks got 2 things going for them Marshawn Lynch and "the 12th man" 
12-12-2011, 10:05 PM
#967
Yeap, there it is, I knew that's where the hate comes from.
Yeah it would be better if he was out running around in bars raping underage women, driving around drunk and killing people or getting arrested for beating his wife/ girlfriend or just the woman who happens to be the mother of his kid.
He doesn't force anyone to receive how he lives and who cares if he gives thanks, hell many players do and the next morning they're in jail from getting caught speeding/drunk when leaving the strip club.
But I knew where your hate was coming from, knew it would eventually come out.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/12/church.../#.TubCh2Mr2nA
Yeah it would be better if he was out running around in bars raping underage women, driving around drunk and killing people or getting arrested for beating his wife/ girlfriend or just the woman who happens to be the mother of his kid.
He doesn't force anyone to receive how he lives and who cares if he gives thanks, hell many players do and the next morning they're in jail from getting caught speeding/drunk when leaving the strip club.
But I knew where your hate was coming from, knew it would eventually come out.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/12/church.../#.TubCh2Mr2nA
Thank god I don't care what you have to say because you can't even read over and over. You just want to read what you want to read, ignorant fella. epic fail
12-13-2011, 07:13 AM
#969
The Dumb One
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12-13-2011, 09:08 AM
#970
Senior Moderator
thats a good one. We will eat him up. Exactly, Tebow didnt do shit. It was the Kicker that did the deed.
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12-13-2011, 09:27 AM
#972
Banned
I've yet to see a kicker who could hit a FG from 97 yards. So with respect, you do need to give the offense credit for getting them in position.
Vinatieri won Brady two Super Bowls, but Brady is the one who gets the credit.
Vinatieri won Brady two Super Bowls, but Brady is the one who gets the credit.
12-13-2011, 09:41 AM
#973
The Dumb One
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they drove a wopping 39 yards and put prater in a posisition where he had to make a kick that is only possibly in the denver air.
tebow had one TD, one INT, and one fumble.
did he contribute? yes, did he win the game? no.
all we are saying is fans and media need to give credit where credit is due.
nobody is saying he isnt contributing.
tebow had one TD, one INT, and one fumble.
did he contribute? yes, did he win the game? no.
all we are saying is fans and media need to give credit where credit is due.
nobody is saying he isnt contributing.
Last edited by Rockstar21; 12-13-2011 at 09:43 AM.
12-13-2011, 09:47 AM
#974
Banned
they drove a wopping 39 yards and put prater in a posisition where he had to make a kick that is only possibly in the denver air.
tebow had one TD, one INT, and one fumble.
did he contribute? yes, did he win the game? no.
all we are saying is fans and media need to give credit where credit is due.
nobody is saying he isnt contributing.
tebow had one TD, one INT, and one fumble.
did he contribute? yes, did he win the game? no.
all we are saying is fans and media need to give credit where credit is due.
nobody is saying he isnt contributing.
As the quote I gave before stated, there are too many people giving him all the credit, and too many people giving him none of the credit. Plenty of it to go around.
Tebow, for better or worse, is the face of the Broncos. They don't have any other marketable player, as of yet. Von Miller should be, but for the most part it's a group of anonymous players to those who don't pay close attention.
12-13-2011, 09:48 AM
#975
Niner Faithful
Other than that....the Giants win is probably the only worthy win right about now.
They really do look like a one and done team right about now....
12-13-2011, 09:49 AM
#976
Yes ok but WHO won the game for the Broncos? It was not Tebow, he contributed, but:
If PRATER did not make the 59 yard FG would they have the W that they have now?
I give Tebow credit for doing what he did on Sunday, but if it wasn't for the amazing kick they would have the L.
#justsayin
12-13-2011, 09:51 AM
#977
Eh....we beat a few quality teams in the early part of the season when they still had swagger....Eagles, Bengals, Bucs (who were like 3-1 at one point).
Other than that....the Giants win is probably the only worthy win right about now.
They really do look like a one and done team right about now....
Other than that....the Giants win is probably the only worthy win right about now.
They really do look like a one and done team right about now....
12-13-2011, 09:52 AM
#978
Banned
Yes ok but WHO won the game for the Broncos? It was not Tebow, he contributed, but:
If PRATER did not make the 59 yard FG would they have the W that they have now?
I give Tebow credit for doing what he did on Sunday, but if it wasn't for the amazing kick they would have the L.
#justsayin
If PRATER did not make the 59 yard FG would they have the W that they have now?
I give Tebow credit for doing what he did on Sunday, but if it wasn't for the amazing kick they would have the L.
#justsayin
It's just how it is.
12-13-2011, 09:58 AM
#981
Banned
This is my first year doing ESPN for fantasy, coming from Yahoo.
This is the first round of the playoffs, and the guys on my bench scored 96 points. Not that big of a deal, considering I won 111-100.
Only problem is, each round is two weeks.
If I hadn't switched out my WRs, I could be up 157-100.
This is the first round of the playoffs, and the guys on my bench scored 96 points. Not that big of a deal, considering I won 111-100.
Only problem is, each round is two weeks.
If I hadn't switched out my WRs, I could be up 157-100.
12-13-2011, 10:01 AM
#982
Banned
I don't mean to come off as a Tebow apologist, either. No reason to like him, being a UGA guy. I also get uncomfortable with people who are that public about their faith.
But for some reason, I do. The more people try to bring him down, the more I like him. He's not getting results by any way that's been conventional since the 40s, but he's getting them.
12-13-2011, 12:40 PM
#983
Team Owner
This is my first year doing ESPN for fantasy, coming from Yahoo.
This is the first round of the playoffs, and the guys on my bench scored 96 points. Not that big of a deal, considering I won 111-100.
Only problem is, each round is two weeks.
If I hadn't switched out my WRs, I could be up 157-100.
This is the first round of the playoffs, and the guys on my bench scored 96 points. Not that big of a deal, considering I won 111-100.
Only problem is, each round is two weeks.
If I hadn't switched out my WRs, I could be up 157-100.
12-13-2011, 01:16 PM
#984
The Dumb One
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im in my playoffs!
$450 pot! i can smell it!
oh, and...
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oh, and...
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Last edited by Rockstar21; 12-13-2011 at 01:20 PM.
12-13-2011, 01:47 PM
#985
Niner Faithful
Hey hey - cut them some slack! It's been 8-9 years since we've actually had a winning record....homerism is at its highest point the first year of the turn around!
12-13-2011, 01:49 PM
#986
Banned
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That was awesome.
12-13-2011, 02:04 PM
#987
Don't worry everybody. Jupiter says Jesus marched them down the field. We're all wrong.
I'm happy for every team minus the Colts. (Poor Colts-- You can see how Manning was the team, the coach, and everything else in between).
Can't wait for the Playoffs should be a confusing year for the AFC.
You have a surging Jets team. A mysterious 'winning' Broncos team. You have a championship yet old and banged up Steelers team. You have a Tom Brady team, but with no offense. You have a Ravens team with a powerful D, but with a Tony Romo-like QB in the 4th QTR in the Playoffs(fail). You have a complete Houston Texans team, but with a rookie 3rd String QB.
On the NFC, I have no doubt that the Packers will win out. There only obstacle will be the 49ers or Saints, but moreso the Saints.
I'm happy for every team minus the Colts. (Poor Colts-- You can see how Manning was the team, the coach, and everything else in between).
Can't wait for the Playoffs should be a confusing year for the AFC.
You have a surging Jets team. A mysterious 'winning' Broncos team. You have a championship yet old and banged up Steelers team. You have a Tom Brady team, but with no offense. You have a Ravens team with a powerful D, but with a Tony Romo-like QB in the 4th QTR in the Playoffs(fail). You have a complete Houston Texans team, but with a rookie 3rd String QB.
On the NFC, I have no doubt that the Packers will win out. There only obstacle will be the 49ers or Saints, but moreso the Saints.
12-13-2011, 02:45 PM
#989
Don't worry everybody. Jupiter says Jesus marched them down the field. We're all wrong.
I'm happy for every team minus the Colts. (Poor Colts-- You can see how Manning was the team, the coach, and everything else in between).
Can't wait for the Playoffs should be a confusing year for the AFC.
You have a surging Jets team. A mysterious 'winning' Broncos team. You have a championship yet old and banged up Steelers team. You have a Tom Brady team, but with no offense. You have a Ravens team with a powerful D, but with a Tony Romo-like QB in the 4th QTR in the Playoffs(fail). You have a complete Houston Texans team, but with a rookie 3rd String QB.
On the NFC, I have no doubt that the Packers will win out. There only obstacle will be the 49ers or Saints, but moreso the Saints.
I'm happy for every team minus the Colts. (Poor Colts-- You can see how Manning was the team, the coach, and everything else in between).
Can't wait for the Playoffs should be a confusing year for the AFC.
You have a surging Jets team. A mysterious 'winning' Broncos team. You have a championship yet old and banged up Steelers team. You have a Tom Brady team, but with no offense. You have a Ravens team with a powerful D, but with a Tony Romo-like QB in the 4th QTR in the Playoffs(fail). You have a complete Houston Texans team, but with a rookie 3rd String QB.
On the NFC, I have no doubt that the Packers will win out. There only obstacle will be the 49ers or Saints, but moreso the Saints.
Packers have nothing to worry about with either of those teams..
I think the Colts are lost on purpose
12-13-2011, 03:27 PM
#990
^well you can't tell me if somehow Brees goes crazy and gets 500 YDS 4 TDS 0 picks that they don't have a chance. Brees is Brees. Playoffs is all about 1 game and maybe for that 1 day Saints may win. I never say no to Brees cause he has the heart and talent every time I watch him play.
I was thinking of a possible scenario for the Colts. Trade Peyton to the Texans for Mario Williams and Ben Tate. 4 straight years of SB winning team!
Not a bad trade for the Colts. Pro Bowl RB and DE/LB and they get Luck.
I was thinking of a possible scenario for the Colts. Trade Peyton to the Texans for Mario Williams and Ben Tate. 4 straight years of SB winning team!
Not a bad trade for the Colts. Pro Bowl RB and DE/LB and they get Luck.
12-13-2011, 04:25 PM
#992
Yeah, I wonder what the Colts are going to do. Even though they try to hide it over and over, Peyton has clearly said he doesn't want someone in his shadow ready to take over. It would be good if Peyton was traded to like the Vikings for there 3rd pick. Manning + AP = beast
12-14-2011, 04:36 AM
#995
Senior Moderator
im in my playoffs!
$450 pot! i can smell it!
oh, and...
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$450 pot! i can smell it!
oh, and...
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12-14-2011, 07:40 AM
#996
The Dumb One
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^well you can't tell me if somehow Brees goes crazy and gets 500 YDS 4 TDS 0 picks that they don't have a chance. Brees is Brees. Playoffs is all about 1 game and maybe for that 1 day Saints may win. I never say no to Brees cause he has the heart and talent every time I watch him play.
that game could have easily been a loss for the Pack
12-14-2011, 01:07 PM
#997
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12-14-2011, 01:17 PM
#999
LOL @ participated. the kid was a regular at the camp and became a counselor there for the years leading up to college. Peyton is the one who convinved him to stay another year in college and their dads played together. I'm pretty sure Peyton wants Luck at the Colts. he'll groom him, teach him the offense the way he knows it, and Peyton will retire to become the head coach or Offensive coordinator
According to Peyton and Archie, they have said that Peyton/himself will not want someone in his shadow. He has said this time and time again. I'm not sure if Jim Irsay and the Colts have enough dough to pay both of these QBs and keep a good D (well barely a good D now).
I'm not going to put down the 49ers. I think they have a good chance. I'm a stats person when it comes to W's and L's. Did you know that most teams that made the Superbowl/AFC-NFC Championship game beats the teams that they are supposed to beat? Every year the team that beats the teams that have a sub-500 record (percentage wise but lose to a top team) ends up going deep in the playoffs. I forgot where the data was given, but this goes for the last 15 Superbowl champions/AFC-NFC games.
