NFL: 2011 Season News and Discussion Thread
12-11-2011, 11:26 PM
#921
oh wait....
12-12-2011, 12:17 AM
#923
I shoot people
12-12-2011, 12:19 AM
#925
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With the nice skid the Bears are on, love/hate him: Cutler is showing his worth...And stick a fork in Chicago's season. 
12-12-2011, 12:38 AM
#928
Ah, did your little itty bitty feelings get hurt. You still don't know shit, you're keep comparing him, to Brady, Rodgers and Manning. Let's see ...., have many ephen games and seasons they have played.
And it looks like Tebow, just put HIS teams in a situation to win another game. Seems to me you're just hater, just running your mouth to run it.
And it looks like Tebow, just put HIS teams in a situation to win another game. Seems to me you're just hater, just running your mouth to run it.
You know nothing about football, you just only know how to jump on the bandwagon. I am NOT HATING on Tebow you idiot, learn to read. I actually gained tons of respect for him especially when he didn't say one word that gave him credit that game.
With your logic, my QB for the Texans is 3-0-- a actual ROOKIE QB 5th round draft pick. Tebow Time? TJ TIME BOY
One is hated because he decided to have a animal fighting ring at his house. Lawl
12-12-2011, 04:44 AM
#930
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maybe that's where the hate comes from ....
12-12-2011, 06:09 AM
#932
Banned
You know nothing about football, you just only know how to jump on the bandwagon. I am NOT HATING on Tebow you idiot, learn to read. I actually gained tons of respect for him especially when he didn't say one word that gave him credit that game.
With your logic, my QB for the Texans is 3-0-- a actual ROOKIE QB 5th round draft pick. Tebow Time? TJ TIME BOY
With your logic, my QB for the Texans is 3-0-- a actual ROOKIE QB 5th round draft pick. Tebow Time? TJ TIME BOY
Texans are a much more talented team than the Broncos are. Sorry.
Michael Vick is a good passer now, he just has no O-line.
One is hated because he decided to have a animal fighting ring at his house. Lawl
And Vick isn't the one who is more hated right now...
12-12-2011, 07:13 AM
#933
Go Giants
Woot.
12-12-2011, 08:43 AM
#934
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12-12-2011, 10:15 AM
#936
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49ers are looking more and more like a one-and-done playoff team. Same story since week 1 - get inside the 5 yard line 3 times in the first quarter and come out with 9 points.
The game should've been over by halftime.....the offensive line looks like a turn-stile allowing 9 sacks to the Ravens and 6 sacks to the Cards.
The game should've been over by halftime.....the offensive line looks like a turn-stile allowing 9 sacks to the Ravens and 6 sacks to the Cards.
12-12-2011, 10:21 AM
#937
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49ers are looking more and more like a one-and-done playoff team. Same story since week 1 - get inside the 5 yard line 3 times in the first quarter and come out with 9 points.
The game should've been over by halftime.....the offensive line looks like a turn-stile allowing 9 sacks to the Ravens and 6 sacks to the Cards.
The game should've been over by halftime.....the offensive line looks like a turn-stile allowing 9 sacks to the Ravens and 6 sacks to the Cards.
That defense will keep them in the game with anyone, but they have to start scoring some TD's. Scary game coming up Sunday.
12-12-2011, 11:57 AM
#938
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12-12-2011, 12:03 PM
#939
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12-12-2011, 12:04 PM
#940
49ers are looking more and more like a one-and-done playoff team. Same story since week 1 - get inside the 5 yard line 3 times in the first quarter and come out with 9 points.
The game should've been over by halftime.....the offensive line looks like a turn-stile allowing 9 sacks to the Ravens and 6 sacks to the Cards.
The game should've been over by halftime.....the offensive line looks like a turn-stile allowing 9 sacks to the Ravens and 6 sacks to the Cards.
Yeah the o-line worries the hell out of me. Cardinals were blitzing almost every play and they still pick it up.
12-12-2011, 12:23 PM
#942
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ravens got another one...next!
12-12-2011, 12:26 PM
#943
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dude had two spectacular kicks to keep them in the game and win the game, and they yahoo headlines say "tebow did it again"
Last edited by Rockstar21; 12-12-2011 at 12:31 PM.
12-12-2011, 12:50 PM
#948
You see Texans team last year? Ranked 32nd in total defense to #1.
We lost our TOP players on offense and defense-- PRO BOWL players and doing it with a 3rd string QB with our PRO BOWL WR out. This has to do with the team stepping up and being a TEAM. Which is also what Tebow is doing to the Broncos. The difference between each one is that Tebow is a RB and TJ Yates is a QB. I will admit that Tebow did very good in passing on Sunday and I hope he continues so I can stop talking about him and praise him. I'm all for Tebow, but no one (but himself) is giving his D or McGahee or his whole team any credit. Everyone just thinks it is ALL Tebow.
Vick passing has increased tremendously since the days of the Falcons. He completed like 70%+ last season and this season.
Last edited by TheChamp531; 12-12-2011 at 12:52 PM.
12-12-2011, 12:51 PM
#949
Niner Faithful
12-12-2011, 01:01 PM
#950
Banned
Vince Young did not get as much credit Tebow was getting nor did he even get any credit because it always CJ's team and there D.
You see Texans team last year? Ranked 32nd in total defense to #1.
We lost our TOP players on offense and defense-- PRO BOWL players and doing it with a 3rd string QB with our PRO BOWL WR out. This has to do with the team stepping up and being a TEAM. Which is also what Tebow is doing to the Broncos.
Vick passing has increased tremendously since the days of the Falcons. He completed like 70%+ last season and this season.
You see Texans team last year? Ranked 32nd in total defense to #1.
We lost our TOP players on offense and defense-- PRO BOWL players and doing it with a 3rd string QB with our PRO BOWL WR out. This has to do with the team stepping up and being a TEAM. Which is also what Tebow is doing to the Broncos.
Vick passing has increased tremendously since the days of the Falcons. He completed like 70%+ last season and this season.
As far as the Texans go, the offenses are in two different worlds. Two Pro Bowl RBs (potentially) make a world of difference. A good running game makes all the difference - ask John Elway. The defense is outstanding, thanks in large part to Wade Phillips. Assistant coach of the year.
As for Vick, it's easy to have a high completion percentage when a third of your pass plays involve screens to McCoy.
12-12-2011, 01:01 PM
#951
Vince Young did not get as much credit Tebow was getting nor did he even get any credit because it always CJ's team and there D.
You see Texans team last year? Ranked 32nd in total defense to #1.
We lost our TOP players on offense and defense-- PRO BOWL players and doing it with a 3rd string QB with our PRO BOWL WR out. This has to do with the team stepping up and being a TEAM. Which is also what Tebow is doing to the Broncos. The difference between each one is that Tebow is a RB and TJ Yates is a QB. I will admit that Tebow did very good in passing on Sunday and I hope he continues so I can stop talking about him and praise him. I'm all for Tebow, but no one (but himself) is giving his D or McGahee or his whole team any credit. Everyone just thinks it is ALL Tebow.
Vick passing has increased tremendously since the days of the Falcons. He completed like 70%+ last season and this season.
You see Texans team last year? Ranked 32nd in total defense to #1.
We lost our TOP players on offense and defense-- PRO BOWL players and doing it with a 3rd string QB with our PRO BOWL WR out. This has to do with the team stepping up and being a TEAM. Which is also what Tebow is doing to the Broncos. The difference between each one is that Tebow is a RB and TJ Yates is a QB. I will admit that Tebow did very good in passing on Sunday and I hope he continues so I can stop talking about him and praise him. I'm all for Tebow, but no one (but himself) is giving his D or McGahee or his whole team any credit. Everyone just thinks it is ALL Tebow.
Vick passing has increased tremendously since the days of the Falcons. He completed like 70%+ last season and this season.
Let see, Broncos weren't winning with Orton as QB, it's the same defense and McGahee, but you give Tebow no credit, for that.
AFA Vince Young, he is just another overrated Texas QB. He has a few years to prove himself, and that was proved as a fail.
The "Mile High Messiah" will not be stopped, now matter how much hate for his lifestyle is ...
TJ Yates, has played two games and you're giving him credit for the whole year.
12-12-2011, 01:08 PM
#953
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Credit where credit was due. I will say that Timmy has the third best QB rating in the fourth quarter. It's still something to get your team in position to win a game.
Should he be doing this the first three quarters? Absolutely. But wins are wins.
12-12-2011, 01:38 PM
#954
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12-12-2011, 03:46 PM
#955
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How about some of those plays by Gronkowski yesterday? Two guys had him wrapped up and still couldn't take him down...
He was an absolute beast...
He was an absolute beast...
12-12-2011, 07:04 PM
#956
QBs get an inordinate amount of credit when they win, an inordinate amount of blame when they lose. It's part of the world we live in. The shows I was watching, Young was getting the credit he deserved. Especially in particular the game he came off the bench.
As far as the Texans go, the offenses are in two different worlds. Two Pro Bowl RBs (potentially) make a world of difference. A good running game makes all the difference - ask John Elway. The defense is outstanding, thanks in large part to Wade Phillips. Assistant coach of the year.
As for Vick, it's easy to have a high completion percentage when a third of your pass plays involve screens to McCoy.
As far as the Texans go, the offenses are in two different worlds. Two Pro Bowl RBs (potentially) make a world of difference. A good running game makes all the difference - ask John Elway. The defense is outstanding, thanks in large part to Wade Phillips. Assistant coach of the year.
As for Vick, it's easy to have a high completion percentage when a third of your pass plays involve screens to McCoy.
Arian was hurt. McGahee is having a Pro Bowl season also. Yes our defense is outstanding all because of our acquisitions of Wade and Jonathan Joseph, but once again, look at our QB situation, our top defensive player, and our two best offensive players. The reason why we're still good is because people make something out of themselves. We have a pro coaching staff and I give them most of the credit.
So, Brian Urlacher is now posting from Texas, come up with something original ...
Let see, Broncos weren't winning with Orton as QB, it's the same defense and McGahee, but you give Tebow no credit, for that.
AFA Vince Young, he is just another overrated Texas QB. He has a few years to prove himself, and that was proved as a fail.
The "Mile High Messiah" will not be stopped, now matter how much hate for his lifestyle is ...
TJ Yates, has played two games and you're giving him credit for the whole year.
Let see, Broncos weren't winning with Orton as QB, it's the same defense and McGahee, but you give Tebow no credit, for that.
AFA Vince Young, he is just another overrated Texas QB. He has a few years to prove himself, and that was proved as a fail.
The "Mile High Messiah" will not be stopped, now matter how much hate for his lifestyle is ...
TJ Yates, has played two games and you're giving him credit for the whole year.
Once again, you cannot read. I have given him credit, but does he deserve ALL the credit? NO.
The Tebow lovers fail to realize that his defense is keeping him in the game for the 3 quarters (or McGahee). The Tebow haters fail to realize Tebow is outstanding in the 4th quarter.
You must be a devoted, hard Christian.
And btw, no one ever said VY was any good, but he was good that year like Tebow will prob.
I'm not giving credit to him that much (TJ), but with knowledge of most Tebow fans at his 2nd win-- why not TJ?
Once I see Tebow play like he does in the 4th quarter in the other 3 quarters I will officially be on his bandwagon, but if not, good luck.
Last edited by TheChamp531; 12-12-2011 at 07:08 PM.
12-12-2011, 07:23 PM
#957
Banned
There actually are studies that prove a style of leadership that Tebow demonstrates is more effective than other approaches (yelling, demeaning, etc). I wonder if his consistant attitude of lifting his teammates up and consistantly praising them and not himself got these tangible results?
As stated, this team isn't too different than the one that started 1-5. When it gave up in previous games, it sees hope in these, and that leads to tangible results.
His teammates clearly believe, as demonstrated by Prater's comments last night and Von Miller's comments for the last two months. Willpower is an incredible asset.
As stated, this team isn't too different than the one that started 1-5. When it gave up in previous games, it sees hope in these, and that leads to tangible results.
His teammates clearly believe, as demonstrated by Prater's comments last night and Von Miller's comments for the last two months. Willpower is an incredible asset.
12-12-2011, 07:30 PM
#958
And Marion Barber. And Lovie Smith. And Tim Tebow.
Credit where credit was due. I will say that Timmy has the third best QB rating in the fourth quarter. It's still something to get your team in position to win a game.
Should he be doing this the first three quarters? Absolutely. But wins are wins.
Credit where credit was due. I will say that Timmy has the third best QB rating in the fourth quarter. It's still something to get your team in position to win a game.
Should he be doing this the first three quarters? Absolutely. But wins are wins.
Yes, Tebow is pretty decent I give him that but he didn't kick the winning field goals. Yes Tebow got them set up but this last game I give more credit to Prater, a 59 yard FG
12-12-2011, 07:44 PM
#959
Senior Moderator
Yup...and in just the same way Mason Crosby beat the Giants last week.