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Old 12-09-2011, 08:42 AM
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they will make the playoffs... and nature will run its course.
Old 12-09-2011, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
All this bitching that he isn't a QB, Dilfer wasn't much of a QB, but he has a Super Bowl ring, because he did his job and had a great defense. Tebow is on the field being paid to be a professional QB, in the elite league for football. That's a QB, not a person on a forum claiming to know all about what a QB is.
Did that make him a great QB? Did that make him a great leader by winning a Superbowl ring? Nope. He didn't get as much 'publicity' as Tebow. Lets be real, Tebow is a model boy/man. He is a huge Christian and it seems like he has never done one bad thing in his life. He has won two Championships in College. Unfortunately, IMO, it will never transfer to the NFL.

Lets be ignorant and pull the 'you're not a QB, you don't know statement'. I don't care what you say because I'm sure you don't know crap about football with that statement. For a second you don't think if Manning or Brady or Rodgers was on DENVERs team they would go 16-0 with there defense at the moment/running game? Rodgers is undefeated with NO running game with a spotty defense. Don't have to believe me, believe the people who have played in the 'elite league for football', even Dilfer said so along with Elway, Archie Manning, Keshawn, Ditka, Cris Carter, Dan Marino, and Shannon Sharpe. So shutup if you don't know shit.

Originally Posted by Yumcha
Hey, I'll take wins over pretty throws and stats.


Tebow wins...'nuff said. What else do they want?
I'm not bashing Tebow on being a player, I'm bashing him on how he plays as a QB (throwing-wise).

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i dislike both of those quarterbacks equally (as you can imagine they both had beef with my LSU team in recent years)

but my opinion... you put cam newton on the broncos team, they win those same games, and win them bigger.

put tebow on the panthers, and not only do they lose the same games, but lose more of them.
Exactly my point.

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Old 12-09-2011, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
Did that make him a great QB? Did that make him a great leader by winning a Superbowl ring? Nope. He didn't get as much 'publicity' as Tebow. Lets be real, Tebow is a model boy/man. He is a huge Christian and it seems like he has never done one bad thing in his life. He has won two Championships in College. Unfortunately, IMO, it will never transfer to the NFL.

Lets be ignorant and pull the 'you're not a QB, you don't know statement'. I don't care what you say because I'm sure you don't know crap about football with that statement. For a second you don't think if Manning or Brady or Rodgers was on DENVERs team they would go 16-0 with there defense at the moment/running game? Rodgers is undefeated with NO running game with a spotty defense. Don't have to believe me, believe the people who have played in the 'elite league for football', even Dilfer said so along with Elway, Archie Manning, Keshawn, Ditka, Cris Carter, Dan Marino, and Shannon Sharpe. So shutup if you don't know shit.



I'm not bashing Tebow on being a player, I'm bashing him on how he plays as a QB (throwing-wise).



Exactly my point.
Try being a bigger douche.

They call them talking heads for a reason.
Old 12-09-2011, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
Try being a bigger douche.

They call them talking heads for a reason.
I didn't want to be a douche, but when people throw the 'you don't know because you're not a QB or a random person online' I have problems because it is ignorance at its finest (assuming is disrespectful).
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Pretty sure his comment was all-inclusive.

Even the other QBs in the league don't know what he is going through, only he does. But he has the respect of his locker room, which is about all you can ask for in the league.
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Vick back on time for the Fins. Should be an interesting game.
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
Pretty sure his comment was all-inclusive.

Even the other QBs in the league don't know what he is going through, only he does. But he has the respect of his locker room, which is about all you can ask for in the league.
Still uncalled for.

I just don't like when Tebow is getting all of the credit of there 'turnaround'.

To be honest, they haven't played a good team yet. I feel like they just have good fortune. Rivers and the Chargers are just in a downward spiral and the Jets is inconsistent as they come. Nonetheless, I still give credit when it is deserved.
Old 12-10-2011, 11:56 AM
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So then at what point does tebow start getting credit?
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When he can pass, and actually win games with his gameplay, not his leadership.

People are giving Tebow more credit for the Broncos than Aaron Rodgers for the Packers. See why this is a problem?
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:39 PM
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Step aside Tebow.

TJ FUCKING YATES 2.5-0 BABY.
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This Packers vs Raiders game is so lopsided it's not even entertaining to watch.


I'd rather see the duel of the two horrible offenses in Denver vs Chicago.
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
When he can pass, and actually win games with his gameplay, not his leadership.

People are giving Tebow more credit for the Broncos than Aaron Rodgers for the Packers. See why this is a problem?
Mike Vick is a horrible passer too. Yet when he runs and makes a play he's lauded.

Why is one loved and one hated?

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Old 12-11-2011, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
Still uncalled for.

I just don't like when Tebow is getting all of the credit of there 'turnaround'.

To be honest, they haven't played a good team yet. I feel like they just have good fortune. Rivers and the Chargers are just in a downward spiral and the Jets is inconsistent as they come. Nonetheless, I still give credit when it is deserved.
Ah, did your little itty bitty feelings get hurt. You still don't know shit, you're keep comparing him, to Brady, Rodgers and Manning. Let's see ...., have many ephen games and seasons they have played.

And it looks like Tebow, just put HIS teams in a situation to win another game. Seems to me you're just hater, just running your mouth to run it.
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Tebow Time, bitches!
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Niners suck big time today lost to the Cards?? WTF we need Willis back on Defense
Old 12-11-2011, 06:18 PM
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I hope this is a lesson learned by the Niners that when you are in the Red Zone you HAVE to score touchdowns, Akers can't always win it for you.
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Let the irrational hate commence.
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Tebow did it again bears
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Originally Posted by DIZAZNDOOD320
Tebow did it again bears
Wasn't him, he's not that good of a QB for it to be him ... he's not as good as other QB's that have been in the league 5-10 yrs, so he couldn't have been able to win.
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Raiders game is just plain out fucking boring to watch,

Niners will get another L next week, and if they played like they did today in the playoffs esp against the Packers :shakehead they will get a new hole.
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Originally Posted by Flipster23
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Raiders game is just plain out fucking boring to watch,

Niners will get another L next week, and if they played like they did today in the playoffs esp against the Packers :shakehead they will get a new hole.
niners are playing like they were last year and its bad so many red zone attempt and they can't get a TD
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The "Mile High Messiah" ... maybe that's where the hate comes from ....
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Originally Posted by DIZAZNDOOD320
niners are playing like they were last year and its bad so many red zone attempt and they can't get a TD
They deserve to have a bad game, it'll wake them up. I didn't see what happened, but will look for the game highlights.
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Pat Forde:

America divided between those who want to give Tebow ALL credit and those who want to give him NO credit. Plenty of credit to go around.
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You know, his team is saying it is HIM. And he's saying it's his TEAM. Doesn't matter they are winning and in the lead of the AFC West. Without him and Orton as the QB, they weren't winning.




edit, was Rex, not Kyle

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Jim Harbaugh is probably your COTY, but John Fox needs some love too.
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We came, we saw, we kicked some ass. Go Pack Go 13-0
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
They deserve to have a bad game, it'll wake them up. I didn't see what happened, but will look for the game highlights.
As much as I hate to agree with you, this is absolutely true. The Niners inability to score in the red zone will kill them against the better teams in the league. Just squeaking by isn't going to cut it against the likes of the Packers or Saints.

Plus I thought it was ironic that the Niners lost by a FG.

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If anyone won the Denver game, it was Matt Prater with his 51 yd. field goal in OT...

Btw, they got to OT because he also kicked a 59 yarder in regulation to tie it....Just sayin...

nobody seems to mention forte and cutler missing for
The bears either..

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Two weeks in a row!
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Two weeks in a row!
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same kicker?
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you know Jerry Jones made the call to let him go tomorrow
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jerry is pissed. I expect to see him in a kickers uniform next week


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