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11-01-2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Phesto
Buehrle option was just picked up at 9.5 mill...............shows how crazy the pictching market will be.
10 million a year seems to be a staring ground on all contracts.(zito,schmidt,mussina)
10 million a year seems to be a staring ground on all contracts.(zito,schmidt,mussina)
The waste of $$$ are more along the one-two-season wonders like Park, Pavano, and Russ Ortiz...
11-01-2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Awesome. So, the Cubs will be going after two idiot players now. First, I-like-jogging Ramirez and now Sheffield. 
What like 22 of his homers were after the break
11-01-2006, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Phesto
Ramirez knows when to turn it on when the games don't matter.
What like 22 of his homers were after the break
What like 22 of his homers were after the break
That $$$ can be so better spent on a Soriano who just wants $2M more than I-Like-to-Jog. At least we know we'll get stolen bases and HRs to boot.
11-01-2006, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Well, Beuhrle's the staff ace IMO. Sure, he had a terrible year by his standards...but, if you look at his past and what he has done for the ChiSox, he's worth every penny and not overpaid as far as pitching goes.
The waste of $$$ are more along the one-two-season wonders like Park, Pavano, and Russ Ortiz...
The waste of $$$ are more along the one-two-season wonders like Park, Pavano, and Russ Ortiz...
Hell 9.5 may turn out to be a bargin the way starting pitching is overvalued now a days.(44 year old Moyer is getting close to 7 a year: CRAZY)
11-01-2006, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Yup. If Hendry re-signs Ramirez, then, he's a freaking tool.
That $$$ can be so better spent on a Soriano who just wants $2M more than I-Like-to-Jog. At least we know we'll get stolen bases and HRs to boot.
That $$$ can be so better spent on a Soriano who just wants $2M more than I-Like-to-Jog. At least we know we'll get stolen bases and HRs to boot.
11-01-2006, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Phesto
The stat that scares me with Soriano is that he hit .177 in the 3 hole of the Nats lineup......virtually all his production came from the leadoff spot......but then again he did set his carrer high in homer playing 80 games at RFK(pitcher friendly).
11-01-2006, 07:15 PM
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Sheffield is over the hill, overrated, and an alleged steroid user. Don't do it Kenny!
I wish Kenny could trade Garcia for another quality pitcher instead! Bonehead move by the White Sox.
I wish Kenny could trade Garcia for another quality pitcher instead! Bonehead move by the White Sox.
11-01-2006, 07:29 PM
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I hope the Cubs or White Sox can sign Barry Zito!
Anybody else here this??
11-02-2006, 01:33 AM
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From what I have heard, Zito may go to an NL team, most likely the Mets, especially since Mota doped up and is now suspended.
Also, he would be re-united with former A's Pitching Coach Rick Peterson, who Zito said molded him during his Cy Young year. Plus, the Mets have the money to throw at him.
Also, he would be re-united with former A's Pitching Coach Rick Peterson, who Zito said molded him during his Cy Young year. Plus, the Mets have the money to throw at him.
11-03-2006, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lister00169
From what I have heard, Zito may go to an NL team, most likely the Mets, especially since Mota doped up and is now suspended.
Also, he would be re-united with former A's Pitching Coach Rick Peterson, who Zito said molded him during his Cy Young year. Plus, the Mets have the money to throw at him.
Also, he would be re-united with former A's Pitching Coach Rick Peterson, who Zito said molded him during his Cy Young year. Plus, the Mets have the money to throw at him.
Right now I'm hoping for a rotation that looks like this...
Pedro (?), Zito, Maine, Bannister, Pelfrey
11-04-2006, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottman111
I can see the Cubs getting him. I've heard they're going to increase their payroll by $20 million this year
Anybody else here this??
Anybody else here this??
11-04-2006, 01:56 PM
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Isn't Glavine in there?
11-04-2006, 06:29 PM
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Gibs, I read that Pedro is out until at least June and might retire if he's not 100%. You might need Tommy or do you think they'll pick someone else up cheap to run the #5. And who's Pelfrey? I don't remember seeing his name in box scores or maybe I was half asleep.
11-04-2006, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Gibs, I read that Pedro is out until at least June and might retire if he's not 100%. You might need Tommy or do you think they'll pick someone else up cheap to run the #5. And who's Pelfrey? I don't remember seeing his name in box scores or maybe I was half asleep.
I believe Maine and Bannister are legit and could both win 12-15 games next year. Zito, if they get him, will be Zito. Pelfrey is one of, if not, the top pitching prospect in MLB. He is 6'7'' with a 98 mph fastball and a nasty slider (sounds like anyone you know?). Google him, there's a good amount of info on him.
I think we are going to see a trade involving Lastings Milledge (hopefully with Roy Oswalt on the other end) because he is just not fitting in with the clubhouse. A lot of things could happen.
But about your Pedro point, if they have low hopes for Pedro I think they will have no choice but to sign Tommy G again. The Mets can win enough without Pedro until June, but only if they know he will be full strength once he comes back.
11-10-2006, 03:46 PM
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Tigers add Steroids
Yankees trade Sheffield to Detroit. The Tigers officially make my 
list.
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9792863
list.http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9792863
11-10-2006, 05:33 PM
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Good...now there's not chance the Cheat Chef can go to the Cubs. Thank-you Detroit! 
11-12-2006, 11:18 PM
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Cubs resign The Jogger and Wood...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2659250
Ramirez signs for a 5-year deal...and Wood is coming back. Well, at least he'll be out of the bullpen and the Cubs don't have to count on him as a starter no more.
Let's set the over/under for when Wood goes on the IR shall we...?
Ramirez signs for a 5-year deal...and Wood is coming back. Well, at least he'll be out of the bullpen and the Cubs don't have to count on him as a starter no more. Let's set the over/under for when Wood goes on the IR shall we...?
11-13-2006, 09:02 AM
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Yankees trade Jared Wright to the Orioles for a no-name..I think Cashman and Steinbrenner are finally getting the picture dumping these big useless salaries and building the system. Now we need to finish the litigation on Pavano and get rid of him too, and then go after a 1st Basemen or Big DH. I say trade Randy for a good #2 or #3 starter and cash.
11-13-2006, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CL Platano
Yankees trade Jared Wright to the Orioles for a no-name..I think Cashman and Steinbrenner are finally getting the picture dumping these big useless salaries and building the system. Now we need to finish the litigation on Pavano and get rid of him too, and then go after a 1st Basemen or Big DH. I say trade Randy for a good #2 or #3 starter and cash.
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Let's set the over/under for when Wood goes on the IR shall we...?
11-13-2006, 11:25 AM
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damn Ramirez got three Million more than Vladimer Guerrero (5,70)did when he signed his deal(2003)..........anyone think they really have the same value as players??
Plus he wanted Beltran money(7,119). .........whats the world coming too.
Aramis better send a thank you note to Adrian Beltres agent.
Plus he wanted Beltran money(7,119).
.........whats the world coming too.Aramis better send a thank you note to Adrian Beltres agent.
11-13-2006, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
Wtf is Hendry thinking of resigning injury Wood? Please Cubs let the Tribune sell you guys now or fire Hendry too.
I think Hendry did a good job. Somebody get him some donuts!
11-13-2006, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
incentive-loaded, he took a paycut. He'll be coming out of the pen, and it's only 1 year so if it doesnt work out, goodbye.
I think Hendry did a good job. Somebody get him some donuts!
I think Hendry did a good job. Somebody get him some donuts!
He should've spent it on Soriano or something...
11-13-2006, 03:58 PM
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Hanley Ramirez for Rookie of the year:
Wow- it looks like he had a great season for the Marlins. I thought at the beginning of the year, it was gonna be a major one-sided trade for at least a couple of years
The 22-year-old Ramirez, acquired from Boston last November in a deal for Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell, batted .292 with 17 homers, 59 RBI, 119 runs and 51 stolen bases. Ramirez also hit 46 doubles and 11 triples.
11-13-2006, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Chr8808
Hanley Ramirez for Rookie of the year:
Wow- it looks like he had a great season for the Marlins. I thought at the beginning of the year, it was gonna be a major one-sided trade for at least a couple of years
Wow- it looks like he had a great season for the Marlins. I thought at the beginning of the year, it was gonna be a major one-sided trade for at least a couple of years
11-13-2006, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Phesto
his own teamate will beat him: Dan Uggla ROY
11-14-2006, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Meh...I disagree...he gave $$$ to an overrated player who jogs more often than hustles.
He should've spent it on Soriano or something...
He should've spent it on Soriano or something...
we have PLENTY $$$ still with the increase in payroll. Soriano, Drew, and/or CLee are the next targets. Reports in LA claim the Cubs have already offered JD Drew a deal.
As for ARam, there is no denying his power, and I was impressed with his defense actually. As for the "jogging", I don't care for that. CONSIDER THIS: He was coming of injury during that span; why would you want to reaggrivate it by running hard on a popout? I am willing to assume that the coaching staff told him to take it easy.
11-14-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
Ramirez beat Uggla in every single offensive category except HR's and RBI's. Ramirez bested Uggla in Runs, Hits, Doubles, Triples, Stolen bases, Walks, Batting Avg, SLG, and OPS.
I don't know I guess I was spoiled by watching 6 of the best years ever by a second baseman everyday(Jeff Kent),so I value a good run producing second baseman...But like I said above Ramirez did have a good year also...........its a Toss Up.
11-14-2006, 04:12 PM
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Red Sox's win Matasuka sweepstakes with record bid of 42 mil. just to talk............will end up having to give a deal that averages 12 mil. a year for at least 3-4..
So in the end this unproven Japanese picher will cost the Red Soxs at least 80 million and possibly(crazier things have happened) 100 mil.
What I don't get is shouldn't Zito's price tag be 6 years at 73 mil ?? why waste on a guy who throws a so called "Gyro" Ball,and has never pitched in the majors..............when a Cy Young winner who has averaged 16 wins the past 5 years is on the market also. (hell I might rather want Schmidt or Suppan even)
I wonder what some Red Sox fans have to say about this?
So in the end this unproven Japanese picher will cost the Red Soxs at least 80 million and possibly(crazier things have happened) 100 mil.
What I don't get is shouldn't Zito's price tag be 6 years at 73 mil ?? why waste on a guy who throws a so called "Gyro" Ball,and has never pitched in the majors..............when a Cy Young winner who has averaged 16 wins the past 5 years is on the market also.
(hell I might rather want Schmidt or Suppan even)I wonder what some Red Sox fans have to say about this?
11-14-2006, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Phesto
Red Sox's win Matasuka sweepstakes with record bid of 42 mil. just to talk............will end up having to give a deal that averages 12 mil. a year for at least 3-4..
So in the end this unproven Japanese picher will cost the Red Soxs at least 80 million and possibly(crazier things have happened) 100 mil.
What I don't get is shouldn't Zito's price tag be 6 years at 73 mil ?? why waste on a guy who throws a so called "Gyro" Ball,and has never pitched in the majors..............when a Cy Young winner who has averaged 16 wins the past 5 years is on the market also. (hell I might rather want Schmidt or Suppan even)
I wonder what some Red Sox fans have to say about this?
So in the end this unproven Japanese picher will cost the Red Soxs at least 80 million and possibly(crazier things have happened) 100 mil.
What I don't get is shouldn't Zito's price tag be 6 years at 73 mil ?? why waste on a guy who throws a so called "Gyro" Ball,and has never pitched in the majors..............when a Cy Young winner who has averaged 16 wins the past 5 years is on the market also.
(hell I might rather want Schmidt or Suppan even)I wonder what some Red Sox fans have to say about this?
on signing Zito. As for NL pitchers...ehhhh...as a rule, they tend to struggle when they come over to the AL...
11-15-2006, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Phesto
Red Sox's win Matasuka sweepstakes with record bid of 42 mil. just to talk............will end up having to give a deal that averages 12 mil. a year for at least 3-4..
So in the end this unproven Japanese picher will cost the Red Soxs at least 80 million and possibly(crazier things have happened) 100 mil.
What I don't get is shouldn't Zito's price tag be 6 years at 73 mil ?? why waste on a guy who throws a so called "Gyro" Ball,and has never pitched in the majors..............when a Cy Young winner who has averaged 16 wins the past 5 years is on the market also. (hell I might rather want Schmidt or Suppan even)
I wonder what some Red Sox fans have to say about this?
So in the end this unproven Japanese picher will cost the Red Soxs at least 80 million and possibly(crazier things have happened) 100 mil.
What I don't get is shouldn't Zito's price tag be 6 years at 73 mil ?? why waste on a guy who throws a so called "Gyro" Ball,and has never pitched in the majors..............when a Cy Young winner who has averaged 16 wins the past 5 years is on the market also.
(hell I might rather want Schmidt or Suppan even)I wonder what some Red Sox fans have to say about this?
More like $51.1MM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/column...rry&id=2662289
$51MM is nuts, right off the bat - and if, with a 5yr contract, the guy's a $10MM pitcher. And knowing Boras, $12-$15MM per year is what its gonna take to sign him.
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