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He got fined 5k for this.... 5k!?!?!? This league is a fucking joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B2O...nnel=SPORTSNET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B2O...nnel=SPORTSNET
no suspension???
no wonder he keeps doing this shit
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Yep, he's a serial repeat offender and already knocked out a Bruins player for months, the fact that the league enables him over and over is a joke and so ridiculous. He assaulted 2 people and got yet another slap on the wrist...
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Breadman done for season after the tussle with Tom Wilson...
https://www.tsn.ca/new-york-rangers-...lson-1.1634431
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Completely agree with NYR's statement. Parros was on glue and he should step down.
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Well, the fact the league keeps agreeing to terms with the NHLPA that the max fine is $5000 when salaries are so high is crazy by NHL standards max the punishment a joke in the first place. Leave the max fine at $5000 for like your first 3 offenses unless they all occur in the same season. After that there needs to be a higher ceiling. Games missed and thus paychecks missed obviously isn't enough for this guy. He is happy to live off the money he already earned regardless it seems. The league needs to make him have to write them a check back that hurts.
All this with the fact that I loved this style of hockey in its day and age. The Detroit vs Colorado series, 1970-90s Flyers hockey, both Fantastic. But that just isn't the game these days at least according to the league. The problem is when it comes time to enforce the changes the NHL projects about today's game they don't back it up when things like this happen.
All this with the fact that I loved this style of hockey in its day and age. The Detroit vs Colorado series, 1970-90s Flyers hockey, both Fantastic. But that just isn't the game these days at least according to the league. The problem is when it comes time to enforce the changes the NHL projects about today's game they don't back it up when things like this happen.
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Spot on as well
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Rangers need to call up the Hansons!
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Smith gave a hell of an accounting of himself. kudos to him.
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I agree if Wilson got a suspension for this game OR if Laviolet did not dress him, there would not have been 6 fights in 5 minutes.
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98 penalty minutes assessed in the first 17 minutes of the first,
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Nice even 100 minutes to end the 1st. Wonder what the record is.
What? They fired the Pres & GM?????
May 5, 2021 | 2:52pm | Updated
https://nypost.com/2021/05/05/ranger...shocking-move/
What? They fired the Pres & GM?????
Rangers fire John Davidson, Jeff Gorton in shocking move
By Larry BrooksMay 5, 2021 | 2:52pm | Updated
https://nypost.com/2021/05/05/ranger...shocking-move/
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Nice even 100 minutes to end the 1st. Wonder what the record is.
What? They fired the Pres & GM?????
May 5, 2021 | 2:52pm | Updated
https://nypost.com/2021/05/05/ranger...shocking-move/
What? They fired the Pres & GM?????
Rangers fire John Davidson, Jeff Gorton in shocking move
By Larry BrooksMay 5, 2021 | 2:52pm | Updated
https://nypost.com/2021/05/05/ranger...shocking-move/
If anything, this leadership group set up the Rangers nicely with a key building piece in every position...Panarin, Fox, Igor...and the pipeline is full of studs starting with Kakka ( ), Lafreniere...What's ownership unhappy about?
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This is rich...Gostisbehere gets suspended but Wilson gets $5000 fine? Okay. Sure.
https://www.tsn.ca/philadelphia-flye...ding-1.1635055
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Oh...just read that Wilson got what he deserved in the fight-filled 1st period rematch between the Rangers and Caps. Good. Hope he's done for the year...career...
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Management wants them to start winning now, the ex gm and pres wanted to move slowly.
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Dunno...don't agree with the firings but I'm not a close observer of the Rangers and this is just based on what I think I understand of the team so far.
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I agree 100% and I liked the path they were on, it's a path towards long term success. Hopefully they don't wreck it.
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Well looks like the Stars don't have the magic for a run this year. A couple more games (losses) til season end. I don't think the covid outbreak at the beginning of the season helped any.
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So, Buchnevich gets one game for high-sticking but Wilson gets no ban for plowing the guy's face into the ice while he's prone on the ice?
Okayyyyyyyy.
WTF amateur hour is this? This is frankly, why the NHL is always going to be a distant 4th in relevancy in the US for pro sports.
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So, Buchnevich gets one game for high-sticking but Wilson gets no ban for plowing the guy's face into the ice while he's prone on the ice?
Okayyyyyyyy.
WTF amateur hour is this? This is frankly, why the NHL is always going to be a distant 4th in relevancy in the US for pro sports.
gaaaaa
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Wow
https://nypost.com/2021/05/06/james-...1005-712523751
This wasn’t about the state of the rebuild. This was about the state of the Rangers union. And Jim Dolan, the Rangers CEO, was not comfortable with it. So he acted. Decisively.
“I saw a weakness in the team that was not being addressed and I knew it needed to be,” Dolan told The Post during a telephone interview on Thursday in explaining why he dismissed president John Davidson and general manager Jeff Gorton. “I knew that we were missing a key component to us being a Stanley Cup contender.
“And that is the overall spirit and culture that goes with being a team. I believe that as good of a job as JD and Jeff have done, in speaking with them, it is clear to me that Chris Drury was going to be the right guy to lead the team forward.”
Drury, of course, has been elevated into the twin roles of president and GM after having served as Gorton’s lead aide for the past five years. Dolan preferred not to discuss the substance of his conversations with Davidson and Gorton regarding those missing elements.
The CEO did not want to engage in hypotheticals about what the ousted regime might have done this upcoming offseason with a heap of available salary-cap space. Instead, this was his take:
“What I’m talking about is not just something that happens in the locker room,” Dolan said. “It’s an entire organization that has to be together as a team. It’s everybody from the president, the general manager, the coach, the players, the assistant coaches, the trainers. … Everybody has to be together as a team, because everyone makes a contribution.
“Our organization doesn’t have that.”
What it does have, in Dolan’s opinion, is talent. Enough talent to … well, let him tell it.
“Honestly, we have enough talent now to compete for a Stanley Cup,” he said. “I’m sure we can always do better and add more, and I will tell you that both JD and Jeff did a good job of putting talent into this organization, and we also got lucky along the way too [with lottery victories the last two years].
“But other owners, other general managers have been telling me for a year that they can’t believe how stocked we are with talent, but talent alone doesn’t do it. We’re missing this piece and we need it. And when I looked at our organization, I felt that we need to change the whole organization and change the culture.
“And then it was a question of who was going to be the best person to lead that change, and I would argue that Chris Drury has the best résumé for that, period. He is a consummate team player, a winner, a man of high character.
“He reminds me somewhat of [Yankees GM] Brian Cashman.”
As if the twin dismissals of popular figures didn’t ignite enough of a firestorm, the timing of the announcement may have seemed odd, coming as it did with just three games remaining in the season that ends Saturday. Why not wait?
Conspiracy theorists concluded that Davidson and Gorton had been fired Wednesday because of their opposition to the statement issued Tuesday night by Dolan under the team’s banner that decried the NHL’s failure to suspend Tom Wilson and called for George Parros’ dismissal as head of the department of player safety.
Why not wait? It turns out there was a pretty good reason for Dolan acting when he did.
“Exit meetings [with the players] are the cornerstone of the entire summer, and it was critical to have Chris in place for those,” said Dolan of the meetings that probably would be scheduled for Sunday or Monday. “The Wilson thing, it is an unfortunate coincidence and it actually gave me a moment of pause, but I had to give this the best chance of being successful.
“I had to get it done so Chris was in place and this was the last opportunity to do this before they went on the road and I wasn’t going to do it on the road. So that’s why.”
The statement made its mark on Tuesday. On Thursday, the NHL made Dolan its mark, fining the Rangers a cool $250,000 for their trouble. Is it necessary to note that was 50 times more than Wilson was fined for Monday’s hysteria? Probably not.
“I feel a little poorer today,” Dolan said lightheartedly “But no, we said what we felt we needed to say and the league did what they felt they needed to do, so it’s fine. Hopefully, we’ll both move on. I don’t think it’s worth enflaming anymore.”
This was not a spur-of-the-moment decision. This was not an emotional reaction to the late slide out of playoff contention. This was months in the making.
“I started thinking about it 20 or 25 games ago at a time when the team really needed to show heart and we had key games — I won’t be specific — where we had to show up and had to come out strong, and even if we lost, it had to be our best effort,” Dolan said. “And we clearly had nowhere close to our best effort.”
There was a stretch through the middle of February through the middle of March when the performance was uneven, inconsistent and wanting. Then there was the April 20, 6-1 humbling at the Coliseum that proved the first of three mismatches against the Islanders.
“That was big,” Dolan said.
Glen Sather, who has been acting as adviser since stepping down from the presidency two years ago, will help guide Drury. Dolan called Sather, “The Godfather of the Rangers.”
“Glen is one of the best hockey minds out there,” Dolan said. “To have his counsel for me and for Chris is invaluable.”
There will be a decision concerning the fate of head coach David Quinn, who has two years remaining on his contract. Drury, remember, was instrumental in the search and hiring process of the former BU coach.
“It’s totally Chris’ call,” Dolan said. “I think Chris has some pretty unique insight into it.”
So the Rangers forge ahead. Unspoken or not, Drury has the mandate to bring the Rangers to the next level, sooner than later. Following Wednesday, there is unease in Rangerstown that Dolan will assume a greater presence in the operation and turn it into someplace like Knicksland.
“No, no, no,” Dolan said. “I don’t delude myself with basketball or hockey to say that I know what to do. But I do have a job and I do have a responsibility, and with the Knicks, I chose Leon Rose.
“Yes, I chose the other guys too, and by the way, every time I did I was hopeful I was getting the right guy. But sports doesn’t always work out that way. But when it comes to the Rangers, I’m turning the reins over to Chris.
“I have complete faith in him. I hope he’s here for 20 years.”
James Dolan: Chris Drury ‘the right guy’ to lead Rangers culture change
https://nypost.com/2021/05/06/james-...1005-712523751
This wasn’t about the state of the rebuild. This was about the state of the Rangers union. And Jim Dolan, the Rangers CEO, was not comfortable with it. So he acted. Decisively.
“I saw a weakness in the team that was not being addressed and I knew it needed to be,” Dolan told The Post during a telephone interview on Thursday in explaining why he dismissed president John Davidson and general manager Jeff Gorton. “I knew that we were missing a key component to us being a Stanley Cup contender.
“And that is the overall spirit and culture that goes with being a team. I believe that as good of a job as JD and Jeff have done, in speaking with them, it is clear to me that Chris Drury was going to be the right guy to lead the team forward.”
Drury, of course, has been elevated into the twin roles of president and GM after having served as Gorton’s lead aide for the past five years. Dolan preferred not to discuss the substance of his conversations with Davidson and Gorton regarding those missing elements.
The CEO did not want to engage in hypotheticals about what the ousted regime might have done this upcoming offseason with a heap of available salary-cap space. Instead, this was his take:
“What I’m talking about is not just something that happens in the locker room,” Dolan said. “It’s an entire organization that has to be together as a team. It’s everybody from the president, the general manager, the coach, the players, the assistant coaches, the trainers. … Everybody has to be together as a team, because everyone makes a contribution.
“Our organization doesn’t have that.”
What it does have, in Dolan’s opinion, is talent. Enough talent to … well, let him tell it.
“Honestly, we have enough talent now to compete for a Stanley Cup,” he said. “I’m sure we can always do better and add more, and I will tell you that both JD and Jeff did a good job of putting talent into this organization, and we also got lucky along the way too [with lottery victories the last two years].
“But other owners, other general managers have been telling me for a year that they can’t believe how stocked we are with talent, but talent alone doesn’t do it. We’re missing this piece and we need it. And when I looked at our organization, I felt that we need to change the whole organization and change the culture.
“And then it was a question of who was going to be the best person to lead that change, and I would argue that Chris Drury has the best résumé for that, period. He is a consummate team player, a winner, a man of high character.
“He reminds me somewhat of [Yankees GM] Brian Cashman.”
As if the twin dismissals of popular figures didn’t ignite enough of a firestorm, the timing of the announcement may have seemed odd, coming as it did with just three games remaining in the season that ends Saturday. Why not wait?
Conspiracy theorists concluded that Davidson and Gorton had been fired Wednesday because of their opposition to the statement issued Tuesday night by Dolan under the team’s banner that decried the NHL’s failure to suspend Tom Wilson and called for George Parros’ dismissal as head of the department of player safety.
Why not wait? It turns out there was a pretty good reason for Dolan acting when he did.
“Exit meetings [with the players] are the cornerstone of the entire summer, and it was critical to have Chris in place for those,” said Dolan of the meetings that probably would be scheduled for Sunday or Monday. “The Wilson thing, it is an unfortunate coincidence and it actually gave me a moment of pause, but I had to give this the best chance of being successful.
“I had to get it done so Chris was in place and this was the last opportunity to do this before they went on the road and I wasn’t going to do it on the road. So that’s why.”
The statement made its mark on Tuesday. On Thursday, the NHL made Dolan its mark, fining the Rangers a cool $250,000 for their trouble. Is it necessary to note that was 50 times more than Wilson was fined for Monday’s hysteria? Probably not.
“I feel a little poorer today,” Dolan said lightheartedly “But no, we said what we felt we needed to say and the league did what they felt they needed to do, so it’s fine. Hopefully, we’ll both move on. I don’t think it’s worth enflaming anymore.”
This was not a spur-of-the-moment decision. This was not an emotional reaction to the late slide out of playoff contention. This was months in the making.
“I started thinking about it 20 or 25 games ago at a time when the team really needed to show heart and we had key games — I won’t be specific — where we had to show up and had to come out strong, and even if we lost, it had to be our best effort,” Dolan said. “And we clearly had nowhere close to our best effort.”
There was a stretch through the middle of February through the middle of March when the performance was uneven, inconsistent and wanting. Then there was the April 20, 6-1 humbling at the Coliseum that proved the first of three mismatches against the Islanders.
“That was big,” Dolan said.
Glen Sather, who has been acting as adviser since stepping down from the presidency two years ago, will help guide Drury. Dolan called Sather, “The Godfather of the Rangers.”
“Glen is one of the best hockey minds out there,” Dolan said. “To have his counsel for me and for Chris is invaluable.”
There will be a decision concerning the fate of head coach David Quinn, who has two years remaining on his contract. Drury, remember, was instrumental in the search and hiring process of the former BU coach.
“It’s totally Chris’ call,” Dolan said. “I think Chris has some pretty unique insight into it.”
So the Rangers forge ahead. Unspoken or not, Drury has the mandate to bring the Rangers to the next level, sooner than later. Following Wednesday, there is unease in Rangerstown that Dolan will assume a greater presence in the operation and turn it into someplace like Knicksland.
“No, no, no,” Dolan said. “I don’t delude myself with basketball or hockey to say that I know what to do. But I do have a job and I do have a responsibility, and with the Knicks, I chose Leon Rose.
“Yes, I chose the other guys too, and by the way, every time I did I was hopeful I was getting the right guy. But sports doesn’t always work out that way. But when it comes to the Rangers, I’m turning the reins over to Chris.
“I have complete faith in him. I hope he’s here for 20 years.”
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Tocchet out as Yotes coach: https://www.tsn.ca/rick-tocchet-ariz...ways-1.1636975
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Torts gone from CBJ: https://www.tsn.ca/john-tortorella-c...ways-1.1636873
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Torts gone from CBJ: https://www.tsn.ca/john-tortorella-c...ways-1.1636873
lol
I'm in the latter camp.
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Nice even 100 minutes to end the 1st. Wonder what the record is.
What? They fired the Pres & GM?????
May 5, 2021 | 2:52pm | Updated
https://nypost.com/2021/05/05/ranger...shocking-move/
What? They fired the Pres & GM?????
Rangers fire John Davidson, Jeff Gorton in shocking move
By Larry BrooksMay 5, 2021 | 2:52pm | Updated
https://nypost.com/2021/05/05/ranger...shocking-move/
This is rich...Gostisbehere gets suspended but Wilson gets $5000 fine? Okay. Sure.
https://www.tsn.ca/philadelphia-flye...ding-1.1635055
https://www.tsn.ca/philadelphia-flye...ding-1.1635055
So, Buchnevich gets one game for high-sticking but Wilson gets no ban for plowing the guy's face into the ice while he's prone on the ice?
Okayyyyyyyy.
WTF amateur hour is this? This is frankly, why the NHL is always going to be a distant 4th in relevancy in the US for pro sports.
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The right scenery has definitely done Hall well. I will eat my words on that one. He just wasn't in the right fits. I guess he just can't be the main piece of the puzzle. Not all guys can be though.
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In your defense there was no evidence to say otherwise
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Joneill never heard of TH until the B's traded for him
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He prolly thought Taylor Hall was some pop singer who Kanye went on stage to upstage at the Awards show a few years back.
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Fake news. Boston media alway brought up his career path because of the draft with Seguin
So
So
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So guesses who the next Ranger coach will be?
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No better time in sports than playoff hockey
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Torts