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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Any expected date for the S4?
b8? or the current b7? or the later in special edition trim?

and would the SE cost more then the not special one?
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Hmmm, I need to look into if I can pre-order one of these using their 2.9% financial deals.
Wait for the next A4...you will be happier.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Wait for the next A4...you will be happier.
Although the B8 is improved in looks and performance especially with the LED in the headlights and the longer wheelbase.

I actually like the look of the B7 and I actually prefer the interior of the B7 over the interior of the B8. The B7 interior looks much simpler to me than the B8, and I personally don't like that the LCD is so high ont he dash on the B8. That was one thing I didn't like about the CL because it was horrible when the sun would hit it and you coudln't see a damn thing.

In any case, there are also special deals on the B7 right now til the start of march with 2.9% deals and that'll save me a lotta money which is what I'm more concerned about even though it may be cool to have a B8. Also, the B8 will be a little more expensive because it's a newer model and so i'd be spending more than I want to.

This is what I'm looking at getting

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Although the B8 is improved in looks and performance especially with the LED in the headlights and the longer wheelbase.

I actually like the look of the B7 and I actually prefer the interior of the B7 over the interior of the B8. The B7 interior looks much simpler to me than the B8, and I personally don't like that the LCD is so high ont he dash on the B8. That was one thing I didn't like about the CL because it was horrible when the sun would hit it and you coudln't see a damn thing.

In any case, there are also special deals on the B7 right now til the start of march with 2.9% deals and that'll save me a lotta money which is what I'm more concerned about even though it may be cool to have a B8. Also, the B8 will be a little more expensive because it's a newer model and so i'd be spending more than I want to.

This is what I'm looking at getting
Agree on the interior. Current gen is better than the coming gen....although the next A4 interior is still beautiful....after all, it is an Audi.

As far as the Avant goes....If I were you I'd pull the trigger.
I thought you might be interested in the sedan.

B8 sedan is a stunner.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Agree on the interior. Current gen is better than the coming gen....although the next A4 interior is still beautiful....after all, it is an Audi.

As far as the Avant goes....If I were you I'd pull the trigger.
I thought you might be interested in the sedan.

B8 sedan is a stunner.
My buddy has a B7 3.2 6spd sedan and it is a beautiful piece of machinery. But since I was originally leaning towards the A3, the Avant would be the next logical step. And in the long run this would become a family car anyway and the extra space can come in handy when we have kids. Another reason I decided to move up is because the price difference between the A3 I configured and the A4 you see above wasn't that much in comparison to how much more value I felt we would get out of the A4 like addition of quattro which you can't get on the 2008 2.0T A3, larger storage space and it's one of the best looking wagons if not THE best wagons IMHO on the market was enough for me to want to try to get the A4 Avant.

I finally paid off my credit cards last month, and I've been waiting for the information to update on my credit report. I'm goign to give it probably till next weekend and by then, regardless of it has updated, we'll start the negotiating process.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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^^^^ Of course my comment about the A4 Avant being the best wagon doesn't take into consideration that the Avant versions of the S4 and RS4 are the other two even bester, yea you heard me, bester wagons on the market!
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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^^^^ Of course my comment about the A4 Avant being the best wagon doesn't take into consideration that the Avant versions of the S4 and RS4 are the other two even bester, yea you heard me, bester wagons on the market!
on teh bester wagons RS4
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Special Edition...wow Wheels.

Bring on the B8 already.
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The latest variation of the volume A4 model, the all-new Avant wagon, will be on display at next month’s Geneva Motor Show where it will be making its worldwide debut before going on sale in just over a month. Based on the same technology layout as the sedan, the new Avant gets the same newly developed five-link front axle and will initially be available with just five engine types, two petrol units and three diesels.

Compared to the previous model, the proportions have been reconfigured in a new, sportier design. The front overhang has been shortened, and the engine hood and the wheel base have gained considerably in length. The car measures in at 4.70m in length, almost 12cm longer than the previous model and its body is considerably more rigid but weighs 10% less thanks to the increased use of lightweight aluminum.

With up to 1,430L in volume, the latest A4 Avant has the largest luggage capacity in this segment. With the rear seats remaining standing, luggage space is reduced to just 490L.

As previously stated, the new model will be launched on the market with two petrol engines and two diesel engines that cover a range of 105kW (143hp) to 195kW (265hp). Audi’s 2.0L TDI generating 125kW (170hp) will be added later to round out the range.
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The new Audi A4 Avant: Driving in a new dimension

Attractive design, spacious and well thought-out luggage space
Sporty technology layout and dynamic driving performance
New generation of engines with higher performance and lower fuel consumption

Ingolstadt, February 2008 – Dynamic, elegant, and emotional; with the
A4 sedan, Audi has already advanced into a new dimension. In a few weeks, the A4 Avant will follow: The most successful premium station wagon of its class offers, along with excellent drivability and uncompromising quality, a higher utility value for sports and recreation. This vehicle combines elegance and intelligent functionality.

The Audi A4 Avant is extending its lead. Based on the same technology layout as the sedan, the newly developed five-link front axle has been shifted farther forward. This ensures that the axle loads are perfectly distributed, thereby guaranteeing the highest precision and agility when it comes to handling. The Avant therefore also offers a new and fascinating driving experience similar to the one that led media experts to pronounce the sedan the best automobile in the midsize range.

Audi is launching the A4 Avant with five engine types to begin with: two gasoline engines and three diesel engines. These engines offer superior performance while reducing fuel consumption by more than 14 percent compared to the previous model – proof of Audi’s successful efficiency strategy.

Audi’s high technological competence is also expressed in the broadly diversified range of powertrains and in its numerous sport and comfort technologies – many of which originate directly from the premium class.

Attractive station wagons called Avant: the design


The design of the new Audi A4 Avant is as exciting and dynamic as one would expect from a brand as design-oriented as Audi. The headlights are staged like a technological work of art. The Avant comes with daytime running lights as a standard feature; the xenon plus headlights consist of 14 white light-emitting diodes.

Compared to the forerunner model, the proportions have been reconfigured in a new and even sportier design. The front overhang has been shortened, and the engine hood and the wheel base have gained considerably in length. The flat D-posts lend the Audi A4 Avant a dynamic, coupe-like silhouette, while the rear design emphasizes its width with powerful, horizontal lines. The new A4 Avant measures 4.70 meters (15.42 feet) in length, almost 12 centimeters (4.72 inches) longer than its forerunner model. Its body is considerably more rigid and safer in build than its predecessor, yet is around 10 percent lighter at the same time.

With up to 1,430 liters in volume (50.50 cubic feet), the latest addition to the Audi family has the largest luggage capacity in its competitive field; in its basic configuration it holds 490 liters (129 gallons). The 60/40 split-fold rear seats also come with the option of a load-through hatch with separate ski and snowboard bag. The A4 Avant’s trunk is lined with fine carpet and features intelligent details as standard such as a reversible cargo floor and a convenient cargo cover that retracts at a touch. Audi also offers luxury features such as an electro-mechanical drive for the rear tailgate or tie-down eyelets for securing luggage.

Light and spacious: the interior


The ambience inside the new A4 Avant is light and spacious. The interior reflects Audi’s strengths – the highest quality of workmanship, sophisticated looks, and logical, intuitive operation. The cockpit is driver-oriented; it borrows many features from the larger A8. Thanks to the new electro-mechanical parking brake, the manual parking brake was no longer necessary.

Even the standard climate control system has been completely redesigned. It supplies ten percent more cooling capacity, yet operates more efficiently than the previous system, thus saving about 0.2 liters of fuel per 100 km.

When it comes to safety, Audi has raised the bar, for example, with its combination of adaptive airbags, belt tensioners with variable belt force limiters and seat position sensors on the front seats. With this system, the force of the airbag deployment and belt tension level are selectively controlled depending on the seat position and the accident severity. In case of a rear-end collision, the backs of the front seats and the head rests support the upper body. This system is called Audi backguard and has received special praise during independent tests.

The engines: more performance, less fuel consumption

The new Audi A4 Avant will be launched on the market with two powerful gasoline engines and two diesel engines, thus covering a range of 105 kW (143 hp) to 195 kW (265 hp). The 2.0 TDI generating 125 kW (170 hp) will be added later to round out the range. All the engines have FSI and TDI direct fuel injection technology and the three four-cylinder engines reach high torques thanks to turbocharger technology. On average, the engine performance in this model series has increased by almost eight percent. At the same time, fuel consumption in the gasoline engines has dropped by almost 12 percent, and the TDI engines by almost nine percent.

The new 3.2 FSI is the most powerful engine that comes with the new A4 Avant. It has an output of 195 kW (265 hp) and reaches 330 Nm (243.40 lb-ft) of torque between 3,000 and 5,000 rpm. Enhancements to the V6 include considerably lower inner friction and a valve actuation system called the Audi Valvelift System, which varies the stroke of the intake valves.

The 3.2 FSI delivers sport-driven performance in any situation. It powers the
A4 Avant from zero to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in just 6.4 seconds and on up to a top speed of 250 km/h (155.34 mph). At the same time, fuel consumption has dropped by 1.5 liters (0.40 gallons) compared to its predecessor.

The 1.8 TFSI, too, is a highly efficient engine. The compact and light four-cylinder unit has an output of 118 kW (160 hp) and reaches 250 Nm (184.39 lb-ft) of torque between 1,500 and 4,500 rpm. Direct gasoline injection and turbocharging create the ideal combination in this model. The 1.8 liter engine responds spontaneously and provides a highly refined driving experience. It powers the car from zero to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in 8.9 seconds and on up to a top speed of 218 km/h (135.46 mph).

The 3.0 TDI engine in the Audi A4 Avant comes across as a widely new engine, particularly when it comes to the fuel injection system and the turbo. This three liter diesel unit, which is firmly coupled to the manual transmission, has an output of 176 kW (240 hp) and reaches a torque of 500 Nm (368.78 lb-ft) between 1,500 and 3,000 rpm. Its performance figures – from zero to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in 6.3 seconds, a top speed of 250 km/h (155.34 mph) – demonstrate this engine’s dynamic character.

The 2.0 TDI has a new common rail fuel injection system that guarantees refined running; other innovations include the turbo and the piston geometry. Audi offers the two liter diesel engine in two versions: one developing 105 kW (143 hp) and 320 Nm (236.02 lb-ft) of torque and the other generating 125 kW (170 hp) and 350 Nm (258.15 lb-ft) of torque. Both ensure powerful propulsion – the basic TDI accelerates the A4 Avant to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in 9.7 seconds and facilitates a top speed of 208 km/h (129.25 mph). The more powerful of the two accelerates the Avant to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in 8.6 seconds and on up to a top speed of 222 km/h (139.19 mph).

When it comes to power transmissions, customers can choose from a broad range of high-tech components. Six-speed manual and tiptronic transmissions (optional for the 3.2 FSI) transfer the engine’s torque. For the 1.8 TFSI unit and the 2.0 TDI engine generating 105 kW (143 hp), the continuously variable multitronic transmission is also an option.

The 3.2 FSI and the 3.0 TDI come equipped with quattro permanent all-wheel drive as a standard feature. It distributes the forces under normal driving conditions at a ratio of 40 : 60 between the front and rear axle – a configuration that perfectly harmonizes the overall dynamic character of the new A4 Avant. If needed, the Torsen differential transfers the majority of the torque to the axle with the better traction.

In the driveline of the new A4 Avant, the differential has moved directly behind the engine. It has switched places with the clutch or the torque converter.

It was therefore possible to move the front axle 154 millimeters (6.06 inches) forward. This solution provides for a longer wheel base and for the perfect distribution of the axle loads, thus improving both handling and ride comfort equally.

Redesigned from top to bottom: the dynamic suspension

The dynamic suspension of the new Audi A4 was redesigned from top to bottom. The pivot bearing and the five links of the front axle are also made of aluminum, just like the beam, which makes the front end of the body more rigid. The steering box is located far to the front and deep down to enable the steering impulse to go directly to the wheels via the tie-rods. The highly efficient servo pump in the sensitive rack-and-pinion steering improves fuel consumption by about 0.1 liter/100 km.

In the rear axle, Audi applied the track-controlled trapezoidal link principle from the larger A6 and A8 series. The suspension is made largely of aluminum; the separate layout of the springs and shock absorbers guarantees sensitive responsiveness. The new A4 Avant will roll off the production line on 16 inch and 17 inch alloy wheels, behind which are located powerful brakes. The electronic stabilization program (ESP) can be partially switched off when driving under 70 km/h (43.50 mph).

A package of innovative technology makes the driving experience even more dynamic and exciting. The optional Audi drive select control system accesses various technology components, depending on which upgrade the customer has selected. In the basic version, it influences the engine’s gas intake, the tiptronic shifting points, the multitronic and the power steering as well as the steering angle of the steering wheel. By pressing a button, the driver determines whether these components should work in a comfortable, average or sporty mode. If the car is equipped with the MMI operating system, a fourth, individually programmable mode is available.

Audi drive select requires at least one of the following two high-end components. One is an adaptive controller for the shock absorbers which is connected to a sports suspension and lowers the body by about 20 millimeters (0.79 inches).

The second component is the Audi dynamic steering that operates with a superposition gear. It varies the steering ratio continuously by almost 100 percent depending on the speed driven. In the limit range, it stabilizes the new A4 Avant thanks to its lightning-fast steering interventions. The system is also extremely useful when understeering occurs.

Even greater supremacy: assistance systems

Audi equips the new Avant, upon request, with a complete range of high-tech systems that make driving an even more supreme and relaxed experience. These include the Audi parking system (a parking aid; standard for the A4 Avant Ambiente), Audi lane assist (the lane departure warning system) and Audi side assist (which warns of hazards when changing lane). Adaptive cruise control maintains the distance to the vehicle in front.

Even when it comes to multimedia, the Audi A4 Avant sets new standards. The Audi Music Interface (AMI) allows iPods to be connected. The navigation systems with MMI Basic plus or with DVD including MMI are also further upgrade options. They permit the integration of cell phones as Bluetooth car phones and are combined with the competition-beating MMI operating system. The top of the line when it comes to hi-fi enjoyment is the car’s sound system from the leading Danish company Bang & Olufsen: A powerful 505 watt, ten-channel amplifier controls 14 speakers.

The new Audi A4 Avant will roll off the production line in the Attraction, Ambition, and Ambiente equipment lines. The dynamic S line offers the options of an exterior package and a sports package. The broad range of options includes luxury-class features such as air-conditioned comfort seats, the triple-zone climate control system, the advanced key which allows keyless access to the vehicle and vehicle start-up at the press of a button, and the dynamic cornering light system known as adaptive light. The large panoramic glass sunroof lights up the elegant interior. A new headlight assistant will be an additional feature in the future.

The A4 Avant will be available for sale in the spring in Germany and other European markets. The basic price of the Audi A4 Avant 1.8 TFSI Attraction model with an output of 88 kW (120 hp) will be €27,550 and it will be available in the fall.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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One of my buddies said he didn't like the interior of the A4 because in the center stack the vent openings are uneven. The passenger side looks thicker between teh edge of the vent and the center console/dash piece.

I think he's off his goddamn meds. That interior is the nicest around. Period.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Audi is the anti-Acura

They're just cranking out one winner after another these days...
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Oooooooooh! I think I might have found my next car!!! YAY!

Hello A4 Avant, bye bye Acura with the ugly new grille!!! LOL
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Very nice, inside and out. But I'm not having any second thoughts.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY should post up a white B8 Avant otherwise I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN!

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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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Hmm...I really like wagons so this may be it! Looks like I'm going to be migrating with a bunch of you to the Audis...
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Hmm...I really like wagons so this may be it! Looks like I'm going to be migrating with a bunch of you to the Audis...
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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I'm going to have a very tough time waiting for my Mazdaspeed3 to be paid off before getting an A5!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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I'm going to have a very tough time waiting for my Mazdaspeed3 to be paid off before getting an A5!
Hey sherlock, this is the A4 thread, take your A5 business elsewhere!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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Hey sherlock, this is the A4 thread, take your A5 business elsewhere!
But the A5 is just an A4 coup-ay!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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But the A5 is just an A4 coup-ay!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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But the A5 is just an A4 coup-ay!
what about the 4-door coup-ay version of the A5, which is just an A4 coup-ay?

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Audi is the anti-Acura

They're just cranking out one winner after another these days...
"What's this? A cohesive, beautiful design? How do they do that?"
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
what about the 4-door coup-ay version of the A5, which is just an A4 coup-ay?

ROFL ... A coupe has 2 doors!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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Stunning wagon!!!
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Stunning Avant
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Stunning? I guess I'm not really getting it. It doesn't seem that different from the current version, interior wise, and even the exterior seems just alright, aside from the interesting looking day time running lights. I reserve judgment until I see it in person.

I still give a nod to the BMW 328iT.
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Both are good looking wagons. I just prefer Audis.
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Mmmmmm ... Love it.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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^^ although nice, I'm not nearly as impressed by the profile as I am by the front, rear, or 3/4 angle view.
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^^ although nice, I'm not nearly as impressed by the profile as I am by the front, rear, or 3/4 angle view.


and the wheels ruin the profile.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike




Both are good looking wagons. I'm just an Audi fanboy.

fixed

And I know.... better Audi than Cadillac, I'm a GM fanboy so I have no high ground, etc. so :iballofthat:

I would take a new A4 over a new 3..xi-series though if I were looking for a dedicated AWD vehicle. Hands down.... Audis look better inside and out and the interior seems more driver-oriented.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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and the wheels ruin the profile.


not very fond of those wheels
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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I've been thinking of selling the TSX for the 09 A4 sedan... but the TSX is paid off... must... resist...
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When do they turn those lights on?
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when you're driving in front of them?
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when you're driving in front of them?
Sounds like something I would do.
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When do they turn those lights on?
Hehe, I'd think they were anti-photography lamps
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Hehe, I'd think they were anti-pronography lamps
How dare they!
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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From: GO GATORS!
Originally Posted by charliemike


Mmmmmm ... Love it.
why does it look so damn long, like it should be an a6??
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