TLtrigirl

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^^there are only a dozen crazy people like him doing this kind of stuff not to mention being able to afford it.

he's got a motor that won't quit.

Acura_Dude

My motor needs to be rebuilt. I can't make it through a mile without stopping and im not a heavy person.

Well...chunky per se.

TLtrigirl

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^^slow and steady...one foot in front of the other. just go out and make it happen. enjoy being outside!

wow...felt great on my run today...10.5 miler obscenely low heart rate at a good pace. considering i am sore and fatigued and i already did a pretty nice pool workout as well....or maybe it is the 20* temp drop that helped. in any case, i'm hoping i feel this good on my big day after getting off the bike.

Acura_Dude

Awesome TLtrigurl! That's what I'd do: ease back into running.

subinf

Had a shitty 1:50 half marathon time few weeks ago. Granted it was part of a HIM but still, I expected better from myself. Oh well.

TLtrigirl

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^^what were conditions like? sometimes you got it...sometimes your body has other ideas and you end up flat or worse. i've learned to put perspsective on my race results.

subinf

^ - Hot and hilly. First half was great. There was one big hill to start but the rest was relatively flat. Second half of the course was constant up and down. Even the pro's splits were off. For me it was mainly that I hadn't done any real distance training...my knees were getting tired around mile 10.

I think I'm gonna find a half to run and see what kind of time I put up.

dallison

do it^




I have the same groin area ache from either too much mileage or who knows what. I have found shortening my stride seems to help.
The side effect of this has been faster times longer w/o really getting worn out. I have been putting down 8-8:30 miles on mnost of my 10 mile runs this week.

I look at my watch after the first mile or two at what seems to be an easy pace and i'm flying along so i see how long i can do it.

The last two miles are just under 8 minutes.


I am not really pushing myslef yet, but the shorter stride seems to work very well for me.

I'm hoping to get a lot of 10 mile runs in before sept. I am looking at a half and want to run under 1:30. I am 4 minutes off and closing in.

TLtrigirl

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my crazy friend has officially scratched the quintuple iron tri. he actually has to work real hours (one of his employees recently resigned, he's covering), and doesn't really want to end up in divorce court.

oh well. it will still be on his list though.

Acura_Dude

imj0257

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dallison

I am getting ready for my third half that i am probably running in September. When i say probably, i mean there's a 90% chance that i'll run it. I don't pre-register for most events since i always seemed to get hurt and couldn't run and lose the $$.

Anyway, i had my last fast 11 mile training run on Thursday. it started out semi quick since i was trying to outrun some rain that was going to hit in a few hours.
It felt real strong and i kept the pressure on the entire distance. There are several longer steep hills that are about a 1/2 mile up and down.

I was able to run an average of an 8:04 mile. The last two were 7:40 and 7:20. This was over 10 minutes quicker than i have run that route before. But, i run it at a slower 9 min pace.

That felt good. I took a day off yesterday and i ran a 5k today. I knew i would be slower since my legs would still be recovering from the 10 miler, and i was right.

But, i needed to get in a speed workout for my next 5k in two weeks. I ran a 20:23 on a course that was .1 longer than normal.

i felt it but at least i was able to get a 5k in for practice. The 5k in two weeks in in my hometown and features a 1 mile hill as the first mile. I get to run against some of my high school classmates and i like to beat them.

But anyway, the half is in one month and i would like to take 2-4 minutes off of my time from last year. I will be keeping up the 30-40 mile weeks and the runs will be slower to build my endurance and get my aerobic exercise in.

i hope you all are getting your training in and are injury free.

dallison

bah, taking a week off. I am experiencing the same nagging injury that i had last year. My right groin area hurts.
It seems as if when i keep the mileage up in the summertime it starts to ache and then hurts.

Right now it's as if it feels "hot". Last year i backed off the mileage for a couple weeks and i even took off a week and the discomfort subsided.

I have been averaging 33-42 mpw in the past five weeks.

I have a 5k on Saturday and i'll be fine to run that, but i am in the same situation as i was in last year. I might not be able to run a half in three weeks. I have plenty of mileage and long runs in to compete but not be really competitive.


I have been stretching each day along with doing leg lifts. The only running i do is 1.2 with our youngest furball and i'm still questioning that.

dallison

I looked at my data from last year, and i did take some time off in August also.

It seems as if taking time off really helps. By sept, all was well.

It looks like when i keep the mileage that i am, and don't take a break, that's when i have these re-occurring injuries.

TLtrigirl

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taking time off is good it helps your body absorb all the training that you have put in. you also need to get that groin thing looked at by a PT and have your form reviewed. or start cross training.

think of it as less is more. running is hard on the body and if you keep pushing the intensities it breaks down. you have now figured this out. this is where strength training also plays a role. it will help fortify your tendons, ligaments and muscles to resist breakdown.

anyway, i could go on and on, but i know you can be a little resistant to change.

rest your body a little, back off the mileage, and go easy to moderate in the next few weeks. i bet you could run that 1/2 and still do well.

dallison

I'm running a half tomorrow. I still have some aching in my groin area. I went to the dr to get checked out and of course they really can't tell much but i was able to get a script for x-rays and pt.

I am going this morning for x-rays but i am sure it will come up negative. Who knows.

I am choosing PT that has weekend hours since i can't get off of work and work until 5-6 pm. But where i live in central PA, there are a few that have weekend hours.

I didn't start pt since i just went to the dr Tuesday and didn't want any new exercise to make me hurt more or make something ache that i don't need to ache.

I am shooting for 1:31-32 if there isn't much pain. We'll see.

TLtrigirl

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Find a PT that also is an athlete and that does hands on work. Avoid the ones that just give you a sheet of exercises and walks away to tend to the 3-4 other people there with you. Good luck tomorrow. I'll be doing something a bit longer tomorrow...looking forward to a great day!!!

justnspace

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i finally got my lazy ass back into running/crossfit/weights 2 weeks ago.

TLtrigirl

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Nice!

justnspace

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this gym mouse is headed to the gym.
lets put in this work, fellas. and Lady.

dallison

Congrats crabman, that's the first step.


Somehow, and just somehow i ran a 1:34:43 today. It was an extremely shitty run. The first two miles were great and then i slowed to settle into a groove. By mile 6-7 i started slowing down. I felt tired and had no oomph. i slowed down to a 7:20-7:40 mile the remaining time.

I ran consistant 6:56 mile at the 10 miler on the same course in april. It should have been a 1:30-31 day but it sucked. I grabbed water at some of the later stations and made sure to hydrate.

I knocked almost 40 seconds off of last years' time, but it should have been 4-5 minutes. Maybe recovering from the groin injury and lightening my miles didn't help.

The way i felt today does not make me want to run the marathon on the same course. I can run a 3:20-25 but if i run it feeling like i did, then i won't be running it.

dallison

Bah! It's a very slight case of arthritis in my hip. WTF? how the hell do i deal with this besides not running? That's not going to happen.

TLtrigirl

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slight means nothing. it may not even be the thing causing your pain. don't panic. if you have recurring injuries...it's usually b/c of form/mechanics (#1 culprit), training style (too much too soon, too hard all the time, both), poor recovery to name a few.

dallison

Nice. I wonder if form from possibly running differently in the summer heat is causing it. I am still searching for someone more local to evaluate my form.

Right now i am following hal higdons' marathon advanced training and will see where that leads me.

If i continue to have pain or discomfort, i'll take a break or really reduce my mileage and crosstrain.

In other news, i might be convincing my wife to run a 10 miler in April. She ran a 10 miler a couple weeks back and she felt good. It was a 9:15-9:30 pace. I said that i would pace her so she could finish well. I told her that she could do it in 90 minutes, but i know she can be a little faster than that and do well. I won't tell her that or she'll be very disappointed if her time isn't as good as i think it could be.

subinf

Took about a month off from running (mostly intentional) and it was probably a mistake. Been running the past two weeks and the fitness is coming back fairly quick but I always find myself thinking how much faster I would be if I didn't have the down time.

TLtrigirl

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One of the worst things one can do is to NOT run for prolonged periods of time.

The tendon and ligament strength you have built up goes to hell, your fitness starts to go too unless you've cross trained, and your legs seem to basically decondition from the "pounding". And also if you want to continue running fast without hurting yourself, you need to stimulate your running muscles at least once every 2-3 days to keep them from feeling flat. This is why it is smart to taper correctly versus all rest and no activity.

The last race i just did, my legs felt sore and just lousy the early part of race week (i had been tapering for 2 weeks at that point). By the two days prior to race day, i felt the need to keep my legs moving with easy spins and runs with a few bursts of speed here and there. By race day, i felt rearing to go. granted, i am now in recovery mode, i won't dare run for another week (trust me, my legs and my body will feel awful once i'm half way through a slow easy run). it's an interesting experience to feel the overwhelming fatigue that comes over you. i might consider getting on my bike a week out for a light spin, but that's about it.

subinf

I continued to ride quite a bit during that time period.

justnspace

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I know this is the running thread; butt....



time to get it!

dallison

1st day of PT and it seems as if my left leg/hip is weaker than the right. The right side may be overcompensating therefore possible uneven wear and causing pain/discomfort.

I ran one mile last week and it was painful the entire distance. I took off a few days and ran 1.2 on Sat.
I ran 1.2 with our youngest and then set out to run a mile or two with Mrs. Dallison who is also nursing an injury. We ended up running 4 slow miles.
I felt good the entire time.

Today i only did 1.25 as the area was inflammed a bit and we were going to the fair and was going to walk 2-3 miles.

This is most definitely a learning phase for me.

Mrs. D's PT knows a Pt that diagnoses running form! This i will have to investigate.

subinf

Was hot today. Managed to get in 8 miles. Not too bad considering I've been a fucking lazy ass recently.

MySoCalLife

I been running for 5 years (not competitively, just to get in shape. I used to weight 215 lbs, currently 155 lbs.) And i find that the form you run effects your stamina and breathing tremdendously, excpecailly towards the end of your run. Running at night is way different then running at day time.
I lose twice as much weight when I ran at night then during the day time.
Also, running a good warm up effects how greatly you perform during your main run.

TLtrigirl

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Well....the quintuple iron distance tri has been going on since tuesday morning of this week. 7 hardy souls (3 of which were women) took on the challenge. the first finisher has crossed the line in 95 hours, 43 minutes. keep in mind it has been raining since wednesday here and they kept riding and running in the wet, cold conditions on the same 5 mile bike loop and 2 mile run loop for the duration of the race. It appears that 6 of the 7 will finish this endeavor by tomorrow at 7am (which is when they need to be done). 12 miles of swimming, 560 miles of cycling, and 131 miles of running. there were at least 15 or so that did/doing the triple iron and another 25 or so doing the double. 2 of the 3women doing the double...are currently 2nd and 3rd overall.

freaking beasts....or freaks of nature. crazy what the human body is capable of doing. just...wow.

Acura_Dude

justnspace

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i dropped 10lbs in a month!
from 180 to 170!!
its sunday morning! time go hard at the gym.

Excuse my non-running butt.

dallison

Are you one of them?

TLtrigirl

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^^oh hell no. i don't have the resources, time nor desire to do a quintuple iron distance. i just find it completely fascinating.

i'll stick to the more "sane" iron distance tri's. my friend who was going to do the quint before work got in the way....plans on doing the quint next october. i won't be around to witness his endeavor in person. i actually already have plans that week i can't wait until 2014!

dallison

I have a torn labrum. i'll have to go in and see what the options are.
I have been running more shorter distances and and ran 155 miles last month and 75 so far this month.

I have been stretching more and paying attention to things. My stride has been shortened and have been icing my hip.
I am sure i can run a half if i need but not a full marathon.
Hopefully i can reciver in a decent amount of time if i elect to get surgery.

TLtrigirl

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only way to fix it...'scope.

sorry to hear about the injury.your shorter stride length maybe beneficial in the long term....you won't be overstriding (putting on the brakes). nonetheless, the labrum is still torn. i've known people with this issue.

dallison

Yup, after ski season i'll look into it. I'll be out of vacation time to have it done this year but i'll have to see how bad it is. It's surprising that i can keep the mileage and keep the achiness down.

dallison

I have accomplished one of my goals. I have completed 1500 miles this year. This seems to be a decent mileage for me. I still haven't gone in to the dr to see what the options are. I ran out of vacation days so we'll look into it in Jan.