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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Question Buying a broken 360 (red lights?)

How can an Ebox be fixed and how much does it cost? Someone in my neighborhood has a 360 with the red circle and wants 80 bucks for it with 2 controllers. What would I do to get it fixed?
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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How can an Ebox be fixed and how much does it cost? Someone in my neighborhood has a 360 with the red circle and wants 80 bucks for it with 2 controllers. What would I do to get it fixed?
towel trick
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Towel Trick is Temporary, You need a X-Clamp Replacement and Requires lots of Labour and Work, Pretty much Hes making free $80 for trash
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Raheel
Towel Trick is Temporary, You need a X-Clamp Replacement and Requires lots of Labour and Work, Pretty much Hes making free $80 for trash
labor = work = relative in what you think a lot is. if it takes you 4 hours to do, and lets say parts cost $100, that still a net savings of $270 not including tax.

Worth it imo. Thats $67.50 saving per hour on a xbox that'll last a while, if u get it working.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Oh, I thought I could just send it to MS to fix? Guess not
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pebecl97
Oh, I thought I could just send it to MS to fix? Guess not

You can, it costs about $150 and you get a 1 year warranty.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Raheel
Towel Trick is Temporary, You need a X-Clamp Replacement and Requires lots of Labour and Work, Pretty much Hes making free $80 for trash


Depends on what is wrong.

Here is how to diagnose it:

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair...rror-codes.htm
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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So, where can I go to see what I need to do this? Is it on MS's website? Do I need to have the receipt or anything? For 80 bucks (negotiable) maybe its worth it.

I played 360 for the first time the other day, GRAW 2, and I am hooked, but I dont want to shell out 400 right now for a new 360.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cambo
labor = work = relative in what you think a lot is. if it takes you 4 hours to do, and lets say parts cost $100, that still a net savings of $270 not including tax.

Worth it imo. Thats $67.50 saving per hour on a xbox that'll last a while, if u get it working.

Actually Your Saving $120 not $270, and thats after 4 Hours of Labor

Core = $300 - $80 for XBOX - $100 Parts = $120 Savings for buying a Used Unreliable System

Thats not a gurantee it will last either, it might crap out on you, I know because I know tons of people on XBOX Forums, who have had 3-4 XBOX's Replaced but since they got extended warranty they didnt care.

Originally Posted by Silver™
Depends on what is wrong.

Here is how to diagnose it:

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair...rror-codes.htm

Good Site, use that ^^^

X-CLAMP REPLACEMENT
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pebecl97
So, where can I go to see what I need to do this? Is it on MS's website? Do I need to have the receipt or anything? For 80 bucks (negotiable) maybe its worth it.

I played 360 for the first time the other day, GRAW 2, and I am hooked, but I dont want to shell out 400 right now for a new 360.

Call 1-800-4MY-XBOX, Tell them you have a Problem with your System, Warranty is 12 months so they will say You have to pay, and ask them how much.

They Might just replace it with a Refurb that might crap out again!

$80 + $150 = $230, Save $70 over a Core, $170 over a Premium
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Yea check the date on the xbox too. If the 360 was made before January 1st 2006, Microsoft will fix the xbox for free.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Yea check the date on the xbox too. If the 360 was made before January 1st 2006, Microsoft will fix the xbox for free.

Not anymore.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Raheel
Call 1-800-4MY-XBOX, Tell them you have a Problem with your System, Warranty is 12 months so they will say You have to pay, and ask them how much.

They Might just replace it with a Refurb that might crap out again!

$80 + $150 = $230, Save $70 over a Core, $170 over a Premium
who buys the core system? Does the x-clamp cost $150?

if it does, thats still a cost savings of $220 (you didn't consider the cost of the second controller) for the premimum, $120 for core.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Also, all xboxs are unreliable, refurb or new.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Well Im just gonna knock on wood and hope my New Elite Lasts me longer than most people.

And Circuit City has Free Second Controllers on Special with new Systems
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cambo
Also, all xboxs are unreliable, refurb or new.
you're kidding right?

I didn't know that ALL xboxs were that bad.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
you're kidding right?

I didn't know that ALL xboxs were that bad.
At least with a Refurb or New, you get a warranty
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Raheel
Well Im just gonna knock on wood and hope my New Elite Lasts me longer than most people.

And Circuit City has Free Second Controllers on Special with new Systems
my brother-in-law has been using his 360 for over a year now with no issues. Haven't heard of any of my other friends having issues either. I know at the beginning there were complaints of units that were overheating. Since then the only other issue has been the three red lights of death correct?

Hopefully mine won't suffer that fate, but I'm still not going to assume that all xboxs are bad.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
my brother-in-law has been using his 360 for over a year now with no issues. Haven't heard of any of my other friends having issues either. I know at the beginning there were complaints of units that were overheating. Since then the only other issue has been the three red lights of death correct?

Hopefully mine won't suffer that fate, but I'm still not going to assume that all xboxs are bad.

The Three Red Lights are due to the heating Problem, and People are still having them, theres people from Dec 2005 WHose Consoles have never had Problems, but theres people with 1-6 Month Old Systems that are Having Problems, but its REALLY REALLY RANDOM
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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I think as long as the unit is well ventilated, it should be fine.

Now if they make a black cooler like the ones that are out right now so that it matches the elite, i'd pick one up to keep it even cooler.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
my brother-in-law has been using his 360 for over a year now with no issues. Haven't heard of any of my other friends having issues either. I know at the beginning there were complaints of units that were overheating. Since then the only other issue has been the three red lights of death correct?

Hopefully mine won't suffer that fate, but I'm still not going to assume that all xboxs are bad.

You are right, it is not fair to say all. Just like how all Yugo's weren't bad cars, I am sure there are a few still on the road

But there is certainly a fairly high failure rate for 360's. And whatever the problem, they seem incapable of fixing it. And I say this from personal experience. My 360 was manufactured in 11/05 and lasted until 3/07 before the three red rings showed up. I sent it back to MS after paying $150 and waited two weeks. It was fixed and lasted nearly the weeks before the three red rings came back. While I have had to use the magic towel a few times, it is $146 cheaper and my downtime is only 30 mins vs. 2 weeks if I sent it in. I will eventually pick up an elite from Costco.

And my experience is far from being unique. Forums all over the net are littered with threads about people in similar circumstances.

But I still love it and wouldn't trade it for a PS3 or Wii.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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^^^ how is MS fixing the problem? Does anyone know? Is a fault that is no longer present in newer units? as an owner of an elite do I still need to be worried?
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Is it a premium system or Core?

If it is Premium I'd say it's worth paying $80 and an extra $150 to get it fixed or do it yourself.

If it's a core, just buy the refurbs from gamestop for $250.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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^^^ how is MS fixing the problem? Does anyone know? Is a fault that is no longer present in newer units? as an owner of an elite do I still need to be worried?
It's happening with newer units too, not just the first batch. But I have no idea at what rate.

As they swith to the smaller (65nm) processors, it may help
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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^^^

I'll be doing my best to keep it cool at all times.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
^^^

I'll be doing my best to keep it cool at all times.

That is definitly a good idea, and I don't want to scare you into thinking that they all fail or that even most fail. But it is a real possibility.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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You guys do know the New Elite has a new Motherboard, They have all been failing, even people who had Ones VERY VENTILATED, there are people hooking up fans to the systems.

But the New Elite should solve the problems

There was a side-by-side comparison by Llama.com which shows the Elite and Premium/Core have different mobos.

If you read the article, it goes on to explain that they've implimented a solution to fixing the 'mobo flexing under intense heat' issue.

Link~


This is the GIF they made of the two mobos, the Premium/Core mobo has the short(er) AV output on the top-left hand side of the board, the other mobo is the Elite.[/QUOTE]
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
^^^ how is MS fixing the problem? Does anyone know? Is a fault that is no longer present in newer units? as an owner of an elite do I still need to be worried?

Looks like they may have come up with a fix...

http://www.dailytech.com/New+Xbox+36...rticle7667.htm
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Looks like they may have come up with a fix...

http://www.dailytech.com/New+Xbox+36...rticle7667.htm

Great FIND Man, Future seems promising, with the New Cooling Hardware and 65 nm Chips, looks great
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Does the elite have the 65nm chip or the 90?
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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6 month and still going strong. I dont know why the ps3 fanboys come in and bash the 360 because of the ps3's lack of quality games. Ps3 will get better but it lacks good online service and games. Sorry.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Does the elite have the 65nm chip or the 90?

Not yet. They will update that later in the year.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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Woulda been nice if the elite truly was more "elite" than the premium version. oh well, game on!
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
6 month and still going strong. I dont know why the ps3 fanboys come in and bash the 360 because of the ps3's lack of quality games. Ps3 will get better but it lacks good online service and games. Sorry.

Not too mention PS3 is priced up the ARSE!
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