SamDoe1

If I could get both, this thread would be about a Porsche Sport Turismo...

rockstar143

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It was...
when in doubt I look at my WWFJD bracelet and proceed with caution little regard for financial well being.

SamDoe1

My accountant would have to agree with such an expenditure and, as of now, she would not sign off on any such PO. Maybe if we didn't have a kid but here we are.

e30cabrio

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Someone told me to put the dogs down and fly to get the truck.

Priorities.

lol

rockstar143

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If the dogs could speak they would have said they understood why.
They're loyal to the cause like that.


SAMMMMMM
Enrich our boring lives with news of a stricken deal on that sweet machine!

I know I am persistent and mildly abrasive (0000 steel wool)
but...
at one point in my career I was faced with a decision to go be a supervisor at the call center (single young woman pool would have been strong)
OR get in on the ground floor to this new thingamajig called advanced metering (which turned into smart grid, thanks Obama!).

I knew that if I turned down the sup position they would always still want me later if I chose to but smart grid might be a door that closes indefinitely.
So the long game is how I look at it. 1 option will CERTAINLY be there for you and probably even better and cheaper down the line...the other won't.

e30cabrio

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So you went for the low self esteem single moms?

lol

rockstar143

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more like disillusioned ones...
Probably trying to save my own mother some heartache from the perspective of 8 year old me

SamDoe1

So...how is that supervisor gig going???

One other question for you guys. My daily work commute is quite short. I go probably 5-6 miles round trip (half each way) to/from work. I'm guessing that won't be good for a M3, correct?

SamDoe1

Missed this post.

Cost of charger install isn't a big deal. My garage already has 240V 70A sub panel for all the wood I work in there. Would be as simple as adding another 240V outlet, probably a couple hundo at most, less if I DIY the wire run and just let the electrician connect it.

cu2wagon

you'll just need to do that commute at 10/10 every day. Just, flat out balls to the wall from the driveway to the parking spot. Giver the beans and it should be fine.

rockstar143

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the more you talk the more I realize you really don't need this 3rd car at all.
Jeep is fine and a mile a day, who cares about gas mileage.

it also means we're splitting hairs trying to come up with reason fulfills your needs
since your needs are bs justification for a new toy to begin with

civicdrivr

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The wall connector itself is $500, unless you're using the the included mobile connector - which doesn't support a 60A circuit and won't charge at the full speed. It's a difference of about 14 miles per hour of charge between 60 and 50A. The gap is even larger if you step down to a 40 or 30A.

civicdrivr

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Also, get the damn M3.

SamDoe1

I don't need the third car I have right now. You don't need most of the cars you have. Jeep is absolutely fine for a daily with the drive I have...or really any drive for that matter.

All of our "needs" are bs justification for new toys.

Per Tesla, the difference between the included charger (which supports a NEMA 14-50 or 6-50 50A circuit via a $35 adapter) and the wall connector (60A) is ~7 miles per hour (30mph vs 37mph) which isn't a big deal for most days when I'd just plug it in overnight.. I'd just get another mobile connector to leave in the car as it's cheaper ($275) than the wall connector ($500) and it enables me to have an outlet for any EV in the future, not just another Tesla.

I'm waiting for the dealership to meet my terms. They wanted $3500 for a 3yr warranty from date of purchase (so effectively 2yr since it still has factory left) which is absolutely not worth the money. So I asked for $1k additional off price, $1k additional on trade, or a combination of the two, said if they meet that I'll take it. If not, it's time for silent fury.

civicdrivr

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If both chargers are on a 50A circuit, that's correct. But my point was the wall connector can support 60A, which gives you the full 44. The included charger cannot.

Probably not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things but fast charging is one of those features Tesla uses as a claim to fame, so I would sure as hell use it.

SamDoe1

They'd both be on a 50A circuit in my garage, I'd want that overhead on my panel and the wiring is a lot cheaper for a 50A circuit vs a 60A. At 30 miles of charge per hour, 10 hours of idle time can charge the car completely, an event that won't really ever need to occur. That's more than enough for me. Honestly if I needed to charge completely in a hurry, I'd just drive to the supercharger a couple miles from here and juice it in 30mins while I grab some food or watch Netflix or take a nap.

I think the fast charging selling point is more useful from a mobile charge standpoint than charging at home.

00TL-P3.2

The charger is part of what would preclude me from EV ownership, at least for now. Not practical to run the cord to the car in the driveway
Also glad I no longer have the Merc, hated parking it outside.

SamDoe1

Yeah, I don't have that problem.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure my sales guy has the day off today (which is dumb) so I probably won't hear back until tomorrow unless he's going to check in with work on his day off. I certainly wouldn't blame him if he didn't.

rockstar143

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You and e30cab are polar opposites.

cu2wagon

I was thinking the same. E30 would be tapping on the guys door at his house right now.

civicdrivr

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Tapping? @e30cabrio would be breaking the door down while on the phone with corporate.

SamDoe1

I loled at all of those.

e30cabrio

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I get I'm demanding but people are entitled to their days off. My guy had one, I did not have a problem with it when I was told that was why he was not responding. BUT, if you are engaged in a project when you take time off it needs to be handed off to a coworker.

I left all the necessary info for all of my pressing tasks last week that people are dealing with. Just because one has time off does not mean the world stops.

SamDoe1

Ok, update. They aren't meeting my terms of pricing and aren't going lower.

Also, found out one of my friends, who had a F80 M3 6MT, turned his in from the lease a few months ago and got a M3P. He said, and I quote: You are an idiot if you spend that much money on a 3 year old M3 with that much mileage over a new M3P. His thoughts were the Tesla is in another league from that generation M3 and it's not at all worth spending that much money on a car with that much mileage. If I wanted the novelty of the manual and the engine, I should get an older one with either the same miles or more for a lot less money or get a new generation model because they are a lot better than the old ones even with the fugly face.

Talked to a few other car guy friends that have switched over and they all said something similar. The Tesla is a step change in automotive tech and it would be stupid to pay the same amount for a worse car. Either get an older one for less money or just wait and get one as a fun toy in the future. Manuals may be going away in the new market but used ones will be around for a good long time.

Talked to the wife and she agreed with all of that so I'm thinking I'll just going to stick with my Tesla order.... Also gives me some time to pad the ole bank account for this hit.

e30cabrio

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Sounds like a plan, before you finalize your decision, have you considered the...

SamDoe1

Only if I have to figure out how to get one here from Texas.

civicdrivr

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You can't go wrong with either imo. Just be ultra picky when the car arrives and go over it with a fine tooth comb. There's bound to be issues, but as long as you mention it I've heard they're good about repairs.

SamDoe1

Agreed. I'm going to print off the inspection checklist before I pick it up. I think the reason I had such an issue making a decision is because both options are good but ultimately what my friend said really hit home. The M3 would be the most expensive AND the highest mileage car we own, that's not something that sits well in my mind.

00TL-P3.2

Just came in to say IU got a good at your new signature inventory.

SamDoe1

Glad you could get a kick out of it.

SamDoe1

Updated delivery date is May 31-June 20. So basically sometime in June. They are just as bad as Comcast for when something will show up.

civicdrivr

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civicdrivr

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I've been looking into the Mach-E quite a bit lately... review seem to be good. It may not be as fast but it looks better imo.

SamDoe1

Charging infrastructure is 1000% the reason I went with the Elonmobile. The Mockey, which is arguably better looking especially in GT form, doesn't have that key very important thing.

civicdrivr

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Yeah but it's not like we're road tripping it. You have the Subaru, we have the CRV. It would spend it's time being charged at home or work.

SamDoe1

That's true. I just want the flexibility no matter what. If the wife and I are going alone, taking the EV wouldn't be a bad idea.

rockstar143

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I wonder if you'll end up disliking driving your IC vehicles after a while.

e30cabrio

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Did you mean ICKY?

​​​​​​​lol

SamDoe1

We're going to find out...I sure hope not because the promise the wife made with going Tesla was that we'd revisit the M2/M3 in 2-3 years.

civicdrivr

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The torque is really addicting though...it makes it hard to go back.