rockstar143's 2013 CTS-V SUV Wagon Thread - GM Owner & Cut Springs
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Might as well have been bracket racing.. Shiett!!
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Jesus.....
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What's super crazy is the mods list on that V..
I know it's on welds and slicks.. but under the hood:
2.19 upper pulley (stock lower)
5" CAI
Meth
cat back, gutted cat
Cam
heat exchanger / 5 gal icechest
Tune
Some polishing here and there..
That's it.. shiet.
I wonder what cam he's running
I know it's on welds and slicks.. but under the hood:
2.19 upper pulley (stock lower)
5" CAI
Meth
cat back, gutted cat
Cam
heat exchanger / 5 gal icechest
Tune
Some polishing here and there..
That's it.. shiet.
I wonder what cam he's running
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guys running just a upper / lower pulley, high-flow exhaust, tstat, CAI, injectors, and tune are in the 10's trapping in the mid / high 120s.. no cam.
freaking crazy to me..
freaking crazy to me..
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That guy hooked pretty damn well. If I were driving it, I'd probably have closer to 2s 60ft. I think his 60 was near 1.5s.
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Granny shiftin', not double clutchin' like you should...
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But... Coupe. ![ugh](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/ugh.gif)
And look at that stance. What do you think that is? Like 25mm spacers?
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And look at that stance. What do you think that is? Like 25mm spacers?
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Hella flush, brah... at 130MPH
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Jason, go ahead and order the springs!
Okay, soooo...
I decided to give the wagon a rear suspension makeover.
First up, new rear magnetic ride control shocks...$494 shipped.
I'm really glad I did this. Rears feel TOTALLY revamped and if this is how the suspension is supposed to feel then I'm glad I decided to stick with mag ride. Sport VS tour is VERY obvious now.
I might swap the fronts too and then sell the NON blown front shocks on ebay.
Fuckin brake dust!![Yuck](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/yuck.gif)
but worth it...I found that if I foam gun the pressure wash, most of the dust comes off...
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New MR
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Even the side I didn't think was leaking...WAS leaking
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the bolt likes to get stuck in the non bolt side threading...this was how I fixed it otherwise the bolt just spreads the lower arms![Bored](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bored.gif)
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easier to swap MR sensor over while old shock is off the car
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after some FB messages with Tony NorcallSS...I confirmed that it would indeed be good to shorten the rear bump stops...so I cut the bottom piece off
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In addition to that...I rotated tires...and bumped the lower cradles in for as MUCH camber as I could get. The good news is, it also bumped the height up a bit so no more saggy ass
Perfect spacing now.
After seeing bad toe wear on the rear, I decided it was better to bump up the camber and remove spacers if necessary. So far haven't touched fender so spacers are staying.
I was at -2.6 camber before on the rear...-1.1 now. after moving the cradles the tow and thrust angle were SO far off, it was scary as fuck to drive down to get the alignment.
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PERFECT stance
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Also while battery was undone had my neighbor's daughter lending a hand
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Green filter in...although it's raining today so not a good day to test it out...I took the opportunity to put some threadlocker blue on the lower ground bolt too...
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and bought another foam lance to try on this electric pressure washer...I think if I fill the soap and rinse buckets first...I actually like this way of washing a car. I'll go on craigslist and buy one.
one of my car bud's made this...![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
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and lastly, thanks to the awesome sound of the exhaust and driving it in manual mode and downshifting and holding gears...
officially a pig
Okay, soooo...
I decided to give the wagon a rear suspension makeover.
First up, new rear magnetic ride control shocks...$494 shipped.
I'm really glad I did this. Rears feel TOTALLY revamped and if this is how the suspension is supposed to feel then I'm glad I decided to stick with mag ride. Sport VS tour is VERY obvious now.
I might swap the fronts too and then sell the NON blown front shocks on ebay.
Fuckin brake dust!
![Yuck](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/yuck.gif)
but worth it...I found that if I foam gun the pressure wash, most of the dust comes off...
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New MR
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Even the side I didn't think was leaking...WAS leaking
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the bolt likes to get stuck in the non bolt side threading...this was how I fixed it otherwise the bolt just spreads the lower arms
![Bored](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bored.gif)
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easier to swap MR sensor over while old shock is off the car
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after some FB messages with Tony NorcallSS...I confirmed that it would indeed be good to shorten the rear bump stops...so I cut the bottom piece off
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In addition to that...I rotated tires...and bumped the lower cradles in for as MUCH camber as I could get. The good news is, it also bumped the height up a bit so no more saggy ass
![Woot](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/woot.gif)
After seeing bad toe wear on the rear, I decided it was better to bump up the camber and remove spacers if necessary. So far haven't touched fender so spacers are staying.
I was at -2.6 camber before on the rear...-1.1 now. after moving the cradles the tow and thrust angle were SO far off, it was scary as fuck to drive down to get the alignment.
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PERFECT stance
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Also while battery was undone had my neighbor's daughter lending a hand
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Green filter in...although it's raining today so not a good day to test it out...I took the opportunity to put some threadlocker blue on the lower ground bolt too...
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and bought another foam lance to try on this electric pressure washer...I think if I fill the soap and rinse buckets first...I actually like this way of washing a car. I'll go on craigslist and buy one.
one of my car bud's made this...
![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
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and lastly, thanks to the awesome sound of the exhaust and driving it in manual mode and downshifting and holding gears...
officially a pig
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Fantastic work as always, J!
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Stance looks great. Strong work once again J.
Now time for moar powaaaaa
Now time for moar powaaaaa
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Thanks boys!
Yeah, they are...although I'm almost mexiflush with the added camber since the whole assembly got bumped out...
front shocks are a strong possibility...then I'd have a totally refreshed magneride that SHOULD be good for another 70K miles or more.
Yes, more power!
Wait...NOOOO you want me to get a ticket?!?!
LOL...
Damn thing moves, boy.
#2266
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Too soon ese!
Word on the street is PSS will wear a lot faster if you swap them left to right..
Word on the street is PSS will wear a lot faster if you swap them left to right..
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They're not directional, but I can imagine the compound getting a wear pattern through repeated heat cycles, especially as soft as they are.
Then switching them up will wear down quicker.. Might be a bad rumor, but you can be our guinea pig.
Tires are asymmetric though, so definitely wouldn't flip them. Are you talking about the rear with the rub?
Then switching them up will wear down quicker.. Might be a bad rumor, but you can be our guinea pig.
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Tires are asymmetric though, so definitely wouldn't flip them. Are you talking about the rear with the rub?
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J, I think you should be rolling in some Nankangs or Nexens.. fuck expensive gripey tires.
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Save a set of NT555r rears for business..
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Oh good so no more rubbing or saggy ass anymore?
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Also from the look of the one picture you posted you now have a full one finger gap in the rear?
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i don't think swapping left to right matters on PSSs.... even on regular use, most Vette guys only get 7.5k miles out of them... can you imagine, new tires every oil change???
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I almost bought a second set of them the other day cause they dipped down to $600 shipped but now they are back up again.
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Damn, did they?
I could have gotten $600 with the rebate card on DTD but they ran out of stock.
I wish I could make up my mind on wheels...if I'm definitely getting wheels I want to hold off until i know if I'm going 20" or what.
Jason, I think the main take away is that you can adjust the rear cradles enough to make a pretty decent visual difference. I am happy to have only -1 camber now though, I can't lie...everyone would ask me why my car was pigeon toed before.
I can't tell yet because there's some gap but I'll have a neighbor and Betty ride with me to see if I make contact with fender...If so, I'll pull spacers...with no camber the rear is almost TOO flush now anyway. LOL.
I could have gotten $600 with the rebate card on DTD but they ran out of stock.
I wish I could make up my mind on wheels...if I'm definitely getting wheels I want to hold off until i know if I'm going 20" or what.
Jason, I think the main take away is that you can adjust the rear cradles enough to make a pretty decent visual difference. I am happy to have only -1 camber now though, I can't lie...everyone would ask me why my car was pigeon toed before.
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