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Old 02-26-2014, 06:19 AM
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I'm going to leave this thread now and never return. It's lost it's fun factor.
I could you if you'd like just to ensure you never come back. LMK
Old 02-26-2014, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
No, I'm not stupid and I'm not missing the point. He's an idiot, we all KNOW that and yet you get all pissed off at him for "disrupting threads." Fuck it, ignore him, is that so god damn hard? He's probably some 17 y.o. kid who's parents have been buying Lexuses "forever" (since 1995 say) and thinks they are better cars than everything. So what? We are all biased for/against certain brands no?
Whoa, easy there. I never said anything about you being "stupid." I happen to think the pattern is far different than just fan boy nonsense, but the consensus among the powers that be seems to be to let it continue. So be it, then.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Bimmer
So who wants to buy my M3?
Even swap for my 335?
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I happen to think the pattern is far different than just fan boy nonsense, but the consensus among the powers that be seems to be to let it continue. So be it, then.
Problem is we cannot ban someone for their opinion, as obnoxious as it may be. However, the constant trolling and thread derailing is something we are keeping an eye on, and believe me when I say he's very close.

Tommy needs to realize that in Car Talk, many of us have our loyalties, however, we appreciate all of the different offerings. He likes Lexus, and that's fine, but if he doesn't back off of his approach and arguing with everyone when they present their own opinion, he's going to hang himself. He also doesn't seem to realize that the German makes are very popular in CT (and in general honestly), so he's treading on thin ice with the members anyway.

But that said, yes, we have banned folks for trolling before, and if this keeps up, it will not be any different. Like I said above, he is being watched by several and he has been warned in a few threads... so there are eyes on him.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Bimmer
So who wants to buy my M3?
Owner financing? Kidding... kind of. My wife would kill me if I added a 5th vehicle to the garage...
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Bimmer
So who wants to buy my M3?
I would...but, does it matter if I have no money for such a thing?
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Owner financing? Kidding... kind of. My wife would kill me if I added a 5th vehicle to the garage...
Hey, if it's only $15K it fits your budget
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Hey, if it's only $15K it fits your budget
Haha. If I didn't need my FJ to tow I could bump the budget and use the M3 as a fun car AND a beach cruiser. But alas with the 2nd house the wife will not allow much more for now

First world problems I know...
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:15 PM
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Can we Merge the 2, 3 and 4 series thread?

Updated pictures:

4GC official Picture


Alpina B4 coupe and Convertible


M235i



M3 F80 Sakhir Orange


M2 N55B30T0 confirmed, manual and auto
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:21 PM
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Such ly eye candies.
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and my car:


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Old 03-04-2014, 05:32 PM
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^^Has it been behaving, lately?
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you mean my limp mode?
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
you mean my limp mode?
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I didn't realize the 4 Gran Coupe was a hatchback?
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
and my car:
Performance exhaust?
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Originally Posted by ttribe
after their 3rd fix (reprogram DME), it has been fine. But my MPG dropped dramatically from 26 average to 23 mpg. so that means, it is finally working properly.
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I didn't realize the 4 Gran Coupe was a hatchback?
it is not like 6 series. 4GC is a 5 door coupe.
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Originally Posted by VR1
Performance exhaust?
nope $900 for an axle back with no performance gain or barely any sound difference and the tips are not even bigger.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
and my car:

Post some more pics of yours man. Love it.
Old 03-04-2014, 06:07 PM
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The 2-series is starting to look like it has a case of CLA-itis. Wheel wells/wheels too small in proportion to the rest of the car... makes it look strange. Like an obese person with a marathon runner's legs calves. Or a swole bodybuiler who never does leg day.

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Old 03-04-2014, 06:32 PM
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Here is a real life picture. It looks fine, but that silver painted mirror cover........
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
M3 F80 Sakhir Orange


M2 N55B30T0 confirmed, manual and auto
I need these two vehicles in my life.
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What is the point of this car?






The new BMW ALPINA B4 Bi-Turbo models combine these characteristics like no other. The modern straight-six 3 litre engine equipped with two turbochargers produces 301 kW (410 hp) and a maximum torque of 600 Nm. The adaptive ALPINA sport suspension and the 8-Speed Sport-Automatic Transmission with ALPINA SWITCH-TRONIC deliver maximum comfort and impressive dynamics. Functional aerodynamics, signature 20” ALPINA CLASSIC wheels and two elliptical double tailpipes are hallmarks of the ALPINA design philosophy.

The B4 Bi-Turbo Convertible accelerates in 4.5 seconds, the B4 Bi-Turbo Coupé All-Wheel Drive in just 4.0 seconds from 0 to 100 km/h on their way to a top speed in excess of 300 km7h. The B4 Bi-Turbo Coupé passes the 200 km/h mark in only 14.1 seconds. The drivetrain, equipped with Auto Start Stop and Valvetronic, also impresses with class-leading economy figures of just 7.6 (8.0) litres per 100 km and 177 (186) g/km of CO2 measured according to ECE Norm.

EXHAUST SYSTEM
The stainless steel exhaust system which was developed in collaboration with Akrapovic is 7.5 kg lighter in comparison to its predecessor. The resonant, sporty sound of the exhaust system is controlled by an intelligent exhaust valve. This offers the driver the possibility to influence the sound experience via the Drive Experience Control button and facilitates the balancing act between emotional soundtrack and long-distance comfort. In Comfort Mode the exhaust valve remains closed up to 2500 rpm, beyond which it opens depending on engine load and rpm. In Sport Mode, however, the valve is permanently open and the B4 Bi-Turbo thrills with its distinctive aural character under hard acceleration – when additionally selecting Sport (S) or Manual (M) Shift Mode the exhaust will deliver an occasional burble on the overrun.

AVAILABILITY and PRICING
The new BMW ALPINA B4 Bi-Turbo Coupé and Convertible models are available to order from March 2014 onwards. Prices in Germany start at Euro 68.600,- for the Coupé and Euro 74.800,- for the Convertible, incl. 19% VAT ex-factory.
Old 03-05-2014, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
What is the point of this car?
Make more money. There's an appetite for the Alpina nameplate and some folks like the perception of exclusivity associated with it. It's not my thing, but I'm pretty sure their thinking is along those lines.
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So, for you 3-Series peeps, Alpina or Dinan?
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
So, for you 3-Series peeps, Alpina or Dinan?
For me it would be Dinan. There's more opportunity for personal customization touches, IMO. With Alpina, it seems to be an all or nothing proposition and some of the cosmetics are a little too gaudy for me.
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Originally Posted by ttribe
For me it would be Dinan. There's more opportunity for personal customization touches, IMO. With Alpina, it seems to be an all or nothing proposition and some of the cosmetics are a little too gaudy for me.
I'm with you...Dinan all the way.

This is an old one but have you seen it before about the Dinan S3 335i: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...specialty-file

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Old 03-05-2014, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
I'm with you...Dinan all the way.

This is an old one but have you seen it before about the Dinan S3 335i: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...specialty-file

Want.
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Want.
And here she is against an M3 for comparison...

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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
after their 3rd fix (reprogram DME), it has been fine. But my MPG dropped dramatically from 26 average to 23 mpg. so that means, it is finally working properly.
How the hell do you average 23mpg in Los Angeles with a 6MT? Do you not drive in traffic at all?
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Originally Posted by vwong
How the hell do you average 23mpg in Los Angeles with a 6MT? Do you not drive in traffic at all?
I'm averaging 21 in mixed freeway/freeway-stop-&-go/in-town. But, I'm running a tune...and a heavy right foot.
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I'm averaging 21 in mixed freeway/freeway-stop-&-go/in-town. But, I'm running a tune...and a heavy right foot.
Plus all those insects flying into that big mouth of yours, it probably adds extra weight.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Plus all those insects flying into that big mouth of yours, it probably adds extra weight.


ETA: I'm letting that one go since it's your birthday. Next one gets a weather report from Phoenix.

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Originally Posted by ttribe
I'm averaging 21 in mixed freeway/freeway-stop-&-go/in-town. But, I'm running a tune...and a heavy right foot.
Doesn't the AT get a bit better gas mileage? I'm averaging 18-19 in the same conditions as you.
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How the hell do you average 23mpg in Los Angeles with a 6MT? Do you not drive in traffic at all?
F30 is probably the most fuel efficient 3 series to date. i had a E92 loaner for about 2 weeks and i was averaging 18mpg, so you can do the comparison.

I consider myself a pretty aggressive driver. but i think the Comfort mode in default helps a lot since it regulate your throttle response and RPM does not go up as fast.

So in a way it is forcing you to save fuel.

I heard the rumor that you can save more with Eco mode but i have not used it once in my own car and not planning to.
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Originally Posted by vwong
Doesn't the AT get a bit better gas mileage? I'm averaging 18-19 in the same conditions as you.
Not sure about the impact of the trans, but I'm guessing I do a little less freeway stop and go than you. But, that's just from my anecdotal comparisons of Phx and SoCal freeways.

ETA: What kind of tune do you have? Mine's a direct flash from ESS. I don't know if a piggy back (like JB) would impact the mileage over a direct flash, or not.
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Originally Posted by vwong
Doesn't the AT get a bit better gas mileage? I'm averaging 18-19 in the same conditions as you.
I don't think AT and MT make much difference in E9X

But in F30, 8AT is about 10% more than 6MT. especially on the highway due to lower cruising RPM.

The new 8AT is better than 6mt is pretty much every category. It is faster, more fuel efficient and the car feels more powerful in WOT because of the gear ratio and more lower gears.
But No thanks.

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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
F30 is probably the most fuel efficient 3 series to date. i had a E92 loaner for about 2 weeks and i was averaging 18mpg, so you can do the comparison.

I consider myself a pretty aggressive driver. but i think the Comfort mode in default helps a lot since it regulate your throttle response and RPM does not go up as fast.

So in a way it is forcing you to save fuel.

I heard the rumor that you can save more with Eco mode but i have not used it once in my own car and not planning to.
Oh...forgot about the Eco and Comfort crap in the F30. That maybe the reason then.
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Not sure about the impact of the trans, but I'm guessing I do a little less freeway stop and go than you. But, that's just from my anecdotal comparisons of Phx and SoCal freeways.

ETA: What kind of tune do you have? Mine's a direct flash from ESS. I don't know if a piggy back (like JB) would impact the mileage over a direct flash, or not.
My tune is from a German company called BMW. i.e. Stock tune.

In the months that I drive, I get about 19mpg from my commute (20 miles of freeway traffic). In the months that my wife drives, she gets about 16mpg from her commute (4 miles of in-town traffic).


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