neuronbob's Official CTS-V Appreciation Thread (6MT V wagon 10 yrs old, pg 46)

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Old 05-13-2015, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Found a nice auto vagon (no recaro) too. I'd be looking for an auto and honestly, don't care about the Recaro seats. But need to sell the Porsche first

FYI: OBM 2012 Vagon FS on the 'other' forum
OBM..
Great condition, but I doubt he'd go south of 45k on it.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
You wouldn't have to drive it hard if you got the M3..

.. or does you mean yo ass hits a lot of stationary objects on the road and the M3 is expensive to fix.. I understand that.
According to my personal experience, it costs so much more to do EVERYTHING with M3. My best track friend drives a E92 M3 6MT. He has to shell out $$$$$.

And a 86+$2500 in mods (no engine mod) hang with a E92 M3 at the track just fine.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Found a nice auto vagon (no recaro) too. I'd be looking for an auto and honestly, don't care about the Recaro seats. But need to sell the Porsche first

FYI: OBM 2012 Vagon FS on the 'other' forum
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According to my personal experience, it costs so much more to do EVERYTHING with M3. My best track friend drives a E92 M3 6MT. He has to shell out $$$$$.

And a 86+$2500 in mods (no engine mod) hang with a E92 M3 at the track just fine.
I imagine your friend behind you in the M3 like.. get out of the way, move aside.

definitely $$.. butt still..
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I imagine your friend behind you in the M3 like.. get out of the way, move aside.

definitely $$.. butt still..
Oh yes. And I'm like that to him in the turns.

But yeah, I should suck it up and make more $$$. That's all it comes down to. The M3s are one of the best cars to DD+Track, no doubt.
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They look so good.. eff everything else.
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I still kick my own arse for not picking up that e46 m3 6mt from my buddy.
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19" Racing Dynamic staggered wheels too...and he did all his own maintenance on it. He actually begged me not to buy from him...

Some dumb kid bought it...and totaled it.
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19" Racing Dynamic staggered wheels too...and he did all his own maintenance on it. He actually begged me not to buy from him...

Some dumb kid bought it...and totaled it.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
I still kick my own arse for not picking up that e46 m3 6mt from my buddy.
E46 M3 is the benchmark sports car and with the 6MT, it's one of the greatest of all time.

That said, it's a royal PITA to maintain and keep on the road especially if you daily drive it. The S54 is such a high strung engine that requires meticulous and constant maintenance to make sure it doesn't blow itself up. A friend of mine spends near $2k a year in maintenance to keep his on the road as a daily.

I almost traded my 330 for one a few years ago but in the end I was really glad I didn't. E9X M3 is much more reliable (relatively) though.
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:58 PM
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I've heard similar sentiments about the e9x M3s. Definitely a collector.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
I wish it were that easy!
Only thing I couldn't deal with is the low MPG. I know...I should be slapped for even mentioning it.
*Bob smacks rockstar*

Worrying about fuel economy in a car like the V is for pussies and treehuggers.

But just in case you care, I have a Fuelly and I do keep track, mostly because I have OCD in that way.



I have to update it but 14 mpg is as good as it gets with this car in mixed driving.

25 cents a mile to fuel this car.
On the other hand, my RLX hybrid is 11 cents a mile to fuel.

I have fun with both, in different ways.
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You don't buy any performance car for the fuel economy.

Think of it in smiles per gallon, it's easier to justify that way.
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That's awesome Bob.. When I picked up the V it was at 15 mpg.. After a week of hooning it dropped to 12 and is just north of 14 now. For a couple of weeks I had the dash set to instant fuel readings, and I must say that if you cruise on the highway and take it real easy, you could definitely net +20 mpg. I switch between speedo and tire pressure (got a puncture this weekend).

Talking about tires and TPMS. I intermittently get no reads on one of the front tires. I know this is common and there is a relearn procedure that helps combat this. When I bought the V that tire was set to +45 psi, and learned that's a common trick to keep it from flipping out. Is it worth it to buy a wand, or just live with it / do relearns? Also, if there's an error with the tire reading, does it shut any performance down that you're aware of?
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
*Bob smacks rockstar*

Worrying about fuel economy in a car like the V is for pussies and treehuggers.

But just in case you care, I have a Fuelly and I do keep track, mostly because I have OCD in that way.



I have to update it but 14 mpg is as good as it gets with this car in mixed driving.

25 cents a mile to fuel this car.
On the other hand, my RLX hybrid is 11 cents a mile to fuel.

I have fun with both, in different ways.
Remember. You are talking to rockstar. So, yeah. Okay.
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
*Bob smacks rockstar*

Worrying about fuel economy in a car like the V is for pussies and treehuggers.

But just in case you care, I have a Fuelly and I do keep track, mostly because I have OCD in that way.



I have to update it but 14 mpg is as good as it gets with this car in mixed driving.

25 cents a mile to fuel this car.
On the other hand, my RLX hybrid is 11 cents a mile to fuel.

I have fun with both, in different ways.
Bob. My name is Jeremy.
If you're gonna smack me, you must know my name.
Honestly...for what it is...that's not very bad mileage. I used to get that in my 2006 Nissan Frontier NON SC. Terrible...just terrible...so I guess that's my problem...I was bored and hated the drive AND got 14 MPG...I'm sure if I had the V or the Coyote 5.0 I always wanted...MPG would be the last thing on my mind. Being European, loving hatches and always driving Japanese econo rides though...it would be VERY counter intuitive for me.

Fine...put me in line to buy yours if you ever sell. I think I'm number 6...or 9...

Originally Posted by Majofo
Talking about tires and TPMS. I intermittently get no reads on one of the front tires.
Do freak out and think you maybe lent one of your wheels to Justin and he never mentioned when he'd borrow it?

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Remember. You are talking to rockstar. So, yeah. Okay.
Hey...


oh wait.


and
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Do freak out and think you maybe lent one of your wheels to Justin and he never mentioned when he'd borrow it?
Wheel's too big and tire's too wide for him to use..
I do have 4 stockie TL tires in the garage though..

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LOL...
Sell em!
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Originally Posted by Majofo
OBM..
Great condition, but I doubt he'd go south of 45k on it.
I'd consider $45k. Got a few calls on the Porsche last night, so we'll see what happens...
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I giggle in the V, it's not always visceral, and I still feel disconnected at times because it's that good.
This is a quote that could be taken way out of context.
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Man, all these Vagons. Wish I could find one closer...

2011 WD A6 Wagon 39k miles, $46000

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I keep going back to this one too even though I'd prefer the Vagon...

2010 Cadillac CTS V, $32,500 - Cars.com
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
This is a quote that could be taken way out of context.


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JB.. for the money, that OBM wagon is the buy. It's funny you posted that sedan, I was looking at that the other day. The seller doesn't disclose much about it, or they don't know.

It's modded. Aside from plastidipping everything, check the exhaust, definitely aftermarket. Doesn't look like corsa, but makes you wonder what else is going on with that V. If you go to the dealer site, they have pics of the engine. No intake, but the cover is detailed (painted s/c logos). Wheels are wrapped in V12s. Could be worse. Price is good.
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^ I'm thinking the dealer got that sedan on trade and doesn't really know much about it. The dealer does have good reviews, but I need to sell the Porsche before I can make a move so I'm not really going to look into it, but I love that blacked out look.

I do love that OBM Vagon too. The white one isn't bad either and I could just wrap it in Satin Blue Metallic. We'll see if either are around when I'm ready...

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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Man, all these Vagons. Wish I could find one closer...

2011 WD A6 Wagon 39k miles, $46000
Jeez. I should buy this for my wife.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Bob. My name is Jeremy.
If you're gonna smack me, you must know my name.
Honestly...for what it is...that's not very bad mileage. I used to get that in my 2006 Nissan Frontier NON SC. Terrible...just terrible...so I guess that's my problem...I was bored and hated the drive AND got 14 MPG...I'm sure if I had the V or the Coyote 5.0 I always wanted...MPG would be the last thing on my mind. Being European, loving hatches and always driving Japanese econo rides though...it would be VERY counter intuitive for me.

Fine...put me in line to buy yours if you ever sell. I think I'm number 6...or 9...


Do freak out and think you maybe lent one of your wheels to Justin and he never mentioned when he'd borrow it?


Hey...


oh wait.


and
OK, Jeremy. Thanks for taking my jab of humor lightly.

I am so used to the awful fuel economy in the V now that I don't even think about it. I consider the fuel bill part of my entertainment fund. Not kidding here!
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
^ i'm thinking the dealer got that sedan on trade and doesn't really know much about it. The dealer does have good reviews, but i need to sell the porsche before i can make a move so i'm not really going to look into it, but i love that blacked out look.

I do love that obm vagon too. The white one isn't bad either and i could just wrap it in satin blue metallic. We'll see if either are around when i'm ready...
glws!
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
OK, Jeremy. Thanks for taking my jab of humor lightly.

I am so used to the awful fuel economy in the V now that I don't even think about it. I consider the fuel bill part of my entertainment fund. Not kidding here!
The avg mpg doesn't shock me, 15 mpg is good in my book, but I'm still when I see half a tank gone in 2 days.



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^^^
Saw that some time ago. That is HOT.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Talking about tires and TPMS. I intermittently get no reads on one of the front tires. I know this is common and there is a relearn procedure that helps combat this. When I bought the V that tire was set to +45 psi, and learned that's a common trick to keep it from flipping out. Is it worth it to buy a wand, or just live with it / do relearns? Also, if there's an error with the tire reading, does it shut any performance down that you're aware of?
^ any advice Bob
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Didn't see that post, sorry.

Buy a wand, they are worth the effort. It takes about 60-90 seconds to do a relearn with one.

I swap out my winter and 3-season wheels by myself and reset the TPMS myself so I am well versed in the procedure.

After the 2010 model year the old relearn system (deflate tire slightly until system chirps) was changed so that only a wand could be used. This is a good thing as you don't have to get your hands dirty using the wand.

If the TPMS sensor is going bad there is no effect on any other systems. If a relearn resets it there's nothing much to worry about. If it is persistent, get it replaced.
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Bob, you're smart. That's pretty cool.
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ah.. I guess I'm getting a wand. Any recommendations (that won't break the bank)? The issue is intermittent, comes and goes without me doing anything. Not sure if that's symptomatic of a failing TPMS sensor.
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Having CTSV wheels on my G8 i have same problem, sometimes when im driving just one sensor triggers the alarm on the dash for a second or two then goes away, eventually it happen that it threw the TPMS error on the dash but next time i started the car it was all good. i noticed that with the new wheels the difference between a cold and hot pressure is significant almost hard to believe from 38 cold goes up to 44 hot and i know its not accurate since i checked with my own pressure gauge and it was below 40. is there permament fix for this ? im about the order whole new TPMS set
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I'm not so sure the temp and tire pressure is off..

Consider that a tire going from a moderate cold temp to cruising will raise anywhere from 40-60 degrees. Rule of thumb is 10 degrees per 1 psi. If you're out hooning it, even more. So 5-6 psi is common. I see about 1 psi raise for every 5-6 minutes I'm driving. It's normal.
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I agree but I checked it with my pressure gauge and it was of by 4 psi on hot, on cold again it's pretty accurate
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.. you said between cold and hot was 6 psi
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Originally Posted by Majofo
.. you said between cold and hot was 6 psi
on the dash it was 38 cold and 44 hot then i checked it again with my HOT pressure gauge and it was reading 40PSI
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Originally Posted by StreetKA
on the dash it was 38 cold and 44 hot then i checked it again with my HOT pressure gauge and it was reading 40PSI
That's what doesn't make sense.. if your tires are hot, it's more plausible that they're +50 degrees than +20 degrees from cold.


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