BC Coilovers are trash. Surprised you haven't heard this from MSP forums. Horribly built with different components rusting and breaking. I've done a ton of research on them.

Spend the extra dough and get something more reputible.

 

IMO when it comes to performance oriented cars you should not be cheap when dealing with suspension mods. I'm assuming the ms3 has pretty good handling so changing some things without doing your research will change up your suspension geometry and will actually decrease your handling. So I would not just get springs. I don't know to much about the ms3. But I'm over in the gti forums and read that the gti suspension setup is very good and unless you put a lot of money you will lose performance. And I dunno about you but I'm performance
over looks. So I would wait before doing suspension mods just because you want to be lower.

 

^ I think you read my old post or something. I'm waiting for H&R to produce for 2010 mazdaspeeds. They released it on their website, but not in stock anywhere yet.

Yes, MSF guys hate BC coils. lol

 

Yea I did haha. I'm in class and on my phone so I didn't feel like reading all 4 pages since these pages take a while to load on the phone haha. Kk. Ohh can I ask you a question. What made you choose the ms3 over the gti. I'm sure you considered that car. Because I'm looking into getting a hot hatch. Dunno when yet but I've come down to the gti and ms3. I'm leaning toward the gti now. But more opinions can change my mind. Either car I will leave mostly stock. Maybe I might go stage 1 on the gti but that's it. The ms3 alrdy has enough power going to the fronts for me so that would most likely stay stock other than wheel and tire upgrades. I plan on autocrossing and tracking my next car also.

 

guys, i think you guys read my old posts.. lol yes i was set on getting BC coilovers before, but all my friends told me not to do it because BC coilovers are the cheapest taiwan brand products.. yes so i'm not getting them. Most of the MSF members told members not to get BC anyway due to its low quality.

I'm actually performance over looks as well. I don't really care about straightline performance, I'm all for handling. I could probably put a decent set of 19 inch high end rims on my car, which will look very nice. However, I'm all for some ultra lightweight 18inch rims or even 17inch with some good meaty tires. My stock rims look really good in my opinion, but it is pretty heavy with 26 lbs each. So, I'm looking to cut about 6-7 lbs each corner with a new set of rims.

And, as for the suspension, I'm going to put on Progress RSB with H&R or KW V1 coilovers. OR maybe if Mazda does produce some Mazdaspeed genuine parts for us, then I'll probably just get Mazdaspeed coilover which is actually KW V3 for around $1,500.

 

MS3 vs GTI

You just can't go wrong with either. Really. They are both EXTREMELY fun cars with hatchback utility. Before I commited on the purchase, I did test drive 2010 MS3, WRX 5-Door, MiniS, and GTi. I think I did some review on these test drives on page 3 or 2, so you can read them when you get home.

However, I'll just say that GTi felt a little bit tone down (girly, sorry moog). It's just my opinion, that's all. Also, GTi that I wanted was around $28k, it was 2009 model. Now, it's even more expensive with the brand new generation out.

Even though it was about $4k more expensive than 2010 MS3 (which is much better equipped in terms of options and features), GTi had around 60 less hp and 70 less tq stock. That was a big turn off for me.. Like I said in my previous post, I don't really care about straightline performance, but I just didn't like the fact that there's that much of difference in stock numbers.

And I am well aware of APR ECU upgrade (I encouraged my gf to get 2010 A4 Avant, which is a fantastic vehicle), and I do know that fully modified GTi vs fully modified MS3, it's GTi >> MS3 in straightline. MS3 hits the ceiling wall at 350 whp currently. However, I don't really care about that since I know I'm not going to drop that much money on this.

So.. just test drive both and go with what you like the most. You really can't go wrong with either.

 

Yes, a lot of MSF members do smoke their tails. It looks pretty mean but I personally don't like that look because it can be a little ricey imo.

And, yes the Mazda emblem is pretty big on the back. I'm going to paint them in glossy black soon, both front and back.

 

Alright thanks man I pretty much love everything about the GTI except its price. Yes it is a ltl underpowered compared to its competitors but that is something i can live with. Im like you, I'm not a straight line guy, if i was I would probably looking at a 2011 Mustang haha. But yea I'll probably test drive the MS3 also. Ohh and I dont plan on modding to much haha. The MS3 is alrdy pushing the power of fwd and the GTI is close, with the APR flash it will be pushing it too. So imo I wouldnt do much to the MS3 other than small things that dont add to much hp. Ive never really looked at the MS3 so I dont know how well equipped it comes, but the 10 GTI's I just want a HID option and if i can find one like that I should be looking at around 25k or under w/o tax and license. Hopefully I think the GTI comes pretty well equipped. The only options are navi, leather, audio, sunroof, and HID. Either way i know ill be happy!

 

pretty cool vid.. i guess there's a reason for this dummy smiley front end

YouTube - New Mazda3 Hatchback: aerodynamics animation

 

KW is a good choice. A lot of BMW/Audi/Mercedes guys use them and I haven't heard a single bad thing about them.

 

Guys, what do you guys think of a custom license plate of "DUMB SML" with this?

Should I do it? or if you have some more funny idea, please let me know!

but I definitely want to point out the dummy smile that my car has in front. lol 7 letters maximum with 1 spacing.

 

I just can't understand what Mazda was thinking when they designed that front. The last MS3 was so good looking compared to this one....

 

I understand that it's a controversal looking front end. All the magazine and 1st generation ms3 owners hate it. But after all, it's a completely subjective matter, you know?

I bought it because I loved the way it looks plus all the good stuff it comes with it. Not to mention it's fking cheap. $23k even

 

and i'm not trying to defend its design at all, but i guess the gills in the front are functional. look at the 3 posts above yours. I don't really give a shit about it though, mazda probably came up with that AFTER people started talking crap about the dummy smile in the front.

 

I say do the plate

 

^ DUMB SML sounds good enough?

I really wanted to do JS + MS3, but there's + sign option... ghey

 

No + option? Wack.

You have a max of 8 characters correct? You could do NOT FUNY

 

NOT FUNY sounds cool too

hopefully other members will throw me some options!

 

here's a picture for you guys to look at when giving me some idea lol

its not mazdaspeed, but that's okay.

 

how about EVIL SML? i'm gonna black out my headlights this summer, and it would look pretty evil ish lol

 

Ooooo I like EVIL SML.

Or YSOSROUS.

 

YSOSROUS

 

 

I should make a new thread with poll, huh?

 

 

That car smiles waaay too much

 

how about nyc teef

 

YSOSRIUS is perfect!!!!!

You said above that there is 7 letters max with 1 spacing. Does that mean you can do a total of 8 letters without the space or is the space required? If not, do what Tyler said.

 

"LOL WUT" man?

that sounds funny too

yeah huh? haha

I noticed that there are only 7 slots on the form, so it's 7 letters maximum.

 

Bigmouf

 

BIGMOUF

 

rofl Sarlacc wins.

 

Quick chop Mark did on the Edmunds blog. Still some smile there but improved IMO...

 

hmm I don't know if I like that or not..

I really have no problem with my front end. If I didn't, I would not have bought the car in the first place.

The only thing I'm going to do evetually is painting that front gills in glossy black to completely match the body. And, I'm going to black out the headlights, so I guess I'm going for those partially murdered out look.

But, thanks alot though man. I totally understand that a lot of people hate this mazdaspeed3 dummy face.

 

I don't hate it, I was just intrigued by this PS...

 

When you say black out the headlights, do you mean tint them or pull them apart and paint the inside stuff(not the cover of course)?

 

there's only one way to black out the headlight, pull them apart and paint the inside stuff.

tinting the headlight is like dropping some black ink shit on your eyeballs. that shit is cheap looking in my opinion. and even if someone is noob enough to put tint on headlight, he is not going to have it on there for long because cops will love to pull him over.

 

really? do you like that better than the stock smile? I'm curious that's all.

 

haha okk
because people do tint their headlights out there when they say blacking it out and im always like why? Why do you want to make visibility worse haha. Whats worse than black tint is that stupid yellow tint people do too

Are you going to put some tint on the tails? I kinda like tint on the tails, some but not much

 

How many letters? 7 or 8?

SOOOHPY