Rick_TL-S

Definitely. Come August, expect them to start throwing out some good deals on any units that have been available since Jan. We're not currently giving any deals beyond a tax credit that went across several models, but we're slowly moving them.

2012wagon

In so cal, its $5000 of all GS-F before any negotiation.

Bay ridge lexus has a silver one Msrp 87,475 for 79,760

2012wagon

Tacoma vs Colorado


Colorado airbag self deploys while driving


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6b_...M#action=share

00TL-P3.2

Co-worker has a '16 Colorado crew cab V6
Brother-in-law has a '16 Tacoma ext cab V6

Having driver both, a few months apart, if it were me, I'd likely go with the Taco. Both have their merits, but I felt the Tacoma was a slightly better drive, though it is pricier (ext cab Taco is about equivalent to a crew Colorado I believe).

cu2wagon

^^^

Yes, that is the right answer. A+

00TL-P3.2

^ The Colorado is a huge improvement over the previous gen, but it's not a refined feeling as the Tacoma.
Taco has more techie stuff in it as well.

Both are quite large for a 'small' truck. The Tacoma really shocked me with how tall it is.
Both of the above referenced trucks are V6 2WD mid-range (LT & SR5) models.

SamDoe1

The Taco will also be worth 3x what the Colorado would be after 5 years.

2012wagon

Resale value on used tacos are enough to buy a new one

SamDoe1

You'd be silly not to buy a new one. Same with Jeep Wranglers.

2012wagon

Agreed, sir

2012wagon

the 2017 TRD pro is gorgeous

oonowindoo

Also you can't beat the resale value on it.... probably has one of the best resale values of any car.

00TL-P3.2

I prefer the TRD Sport, just wish the 6MT wasn't reserved for the 4WD models

Eh, I drive my cars til they're near worthless, so resale isn't a big factor to me.
My TL was coming up on 250k when I traded it, My 2 Mercedes I had in high school were both over 300k (early 80's diesels).

2012wagon

For me I like the TRD OR manual trans

But the TRD PRo even better

oonowindoo

Well that is another big reason to go with Toyota you know...

00TL-P3.2

Anyone else see the Ferrari/Toyota collaboration, the Fiorza release?
Ferrari Fiorza

ttribe

April Fools!

00TL-P3.2

I'll admit, I was intrigued, though had an idea where it was going with the first picture.

Doom878

I have a feeling those Ferrari stickers weren't chopped onto that Scion

Yumcha

I'm waiting for Honda/Acura to say, "April Fools" and cancel the NSX.

oonowindoo

or an actual release date and bazzinga!

thePearl

anyone have a 20/25% TRS coupon?


(Disclosure: Sorry if this is not the right place to put this comment)

crazyasiantl

iTrader: (7)

A parked '16 Tacoma caught fire at my gfs work yesterday

oonowindoo

Must be a 3.5L TT Hybrid retro fit gone wrong

SamDoe1

What? Why wouldn't you want it with 4WD? That's the whole point of the TRD or a truck in general. Also the 6MT in any truck is atrocious and a waste, one of the situations where I don't preach #savethemanuals. You definitely want the auto if you ever plan on using the truck to do truck things. If you don't...well...might I suggest something other than a truck?

For me, it's TRD Off Road double cab short bed.

2012wagon

I wish the manual would come on long bed
Oh well

Having driven fj60 extensively with manual for a few years and using trucks with manual off road, I much prefer 3 pedals

To each his own

THere is a reason you can find many dodge and f350 etc with manual .... It's not for doing non truck things

00TL-P3.2

And therein is why I don't have a truck.
I only occasionally need a truck & know a few people that have one I can use.
I can count on one hand the times I maybe could have used 4WD, hence why I'd take the TRD Sport, over the Off Road.

SamDoe1

I don't know man, must of the modern technology now requires an auto to do its thing. The crawl control, hill descent, hill ascent, etc all needs the auto to function (I think?). Also, there's no issue with stalling on a hill and needing to rock the truck on the starter to get moving again, etc...

There's a big headache that gets relieved when you off road an auto vs a manual (been there done that, would much prefer the auto). Also, the resale value of manual trucks is really poor. Now on road is a whole different story.

What I'm reading here is that I didn't try hard enough to get into a situation where I need 4WD...

crazyasiantl

iTrader: (7)

I think the manual Tacomas have a "clutch start cancel" button. My old 89 V6 4WD pickup had it and I know the following gen had it as well. Not too sure about the newer ones

SamDoe1

Is this to turn off the clutch sensor that makes it so you don't have to push the clutch in to start? If so, that's not what I'm talking about...what I'm saying is that stalling out on a hill and restarting, you never want to use the clutch. Most off road vehicles have the switch you're talking about. Ideally you're already in low range and want to just stay off the gas and brake and start the truck without doing anything. The low range will make it so that you don't go anywhere fast or out of control but it's still a PITA and an unnerving situation that can be mitigated by just having two pedals.

2012wagon

Manual Tacoma 4wd have incredible resale ....

Then again I drove manual in SF for 7 years

00TL-P3.2

Ha, perhaps. I've always grown up in cars, rarely trucks.
Though I did make the 5 mile trek to our ranch down some crappy gravel roads in my Civic, does that count?

2012wagon

Car and driver just tested the

Sti
Rs
Golf r

In a comparo

Sti came in dead last
Rs won the comparo

Great times to be an enthusiast

Maybe I can convince my wife to trade her wrx in a 2018 RS

Costco

Toyota had a launch event for the 2016 Tacoma which I was fortunate enough to attend.

Tackled mild hollister hills trails with several new trucks as well as a couple of obstacle courses. Took turns driving a Frontier, Colorado, one of each upper level Tacoma trim (TRD Sport, TRD Off-Road, Limited) as well as a previous gen TRD Off-road just to compare.

I would get a TRD Sport. Don't ever plan on seriously going off-roading, and if I did I would upgrade through the aftermarket. The Sport suspension is more than sufficient for mild off-roading, but is more compliant on the road and has better tires for on-road driving.

Interior is worlds better than the previous gen. Very composed ride on uneven terrain. The Colorado is a very nice truck as well, but there are several aspects and small details in which the Tacoma is better. The only things the Colorado have going for it are styling, the bumper step cutouts, and power, though the Taco has a bit more torque. And the Chevy has a rear armrest

The Frontier is so long in the tooth and inferior that there isn't enough money Nissan could feasibly put on the table to make me take a new one over a new Taco or Colorado.

Costco

Actually I take that back. The Off-Road has a bunch of off-road oriented features included with it, for basically the same money as the Sport. But I've never been a fan of the chrome bumper/trim treatment or the unpainted fender flares.

TRD Off-Road vs. TRD Sport - 2016 Toyota Tacoma Long-Term Road Test

Yumcha

Any word on the "Supra" or is that going the vaporcar...? Cuz, it's been darn quiet with the FT-1 and all...

SamDoe1

If it was any road you were able to traverse in a Civic, it doesn't count.

I'm taking my Jeep over Imogene Pass, Cinnamon Pass, Ophir Pass, and Engineer Pass this September. I'm super excited. I don't think the Civic would make it too far out of the trailhead parking lot.

I'm still working to get the wife to let me get a RS next year and let her have the Jeep.

The biggest advantage of the off road vs sport are approach angles, skid plates, better shocks and the locking rear end. These are HUGE if you are leaving the pavement.

If you never plan on taking it off road then the Sport would be just fine, but I for sure would take it to lots of places not serviced by paved roads and as such would take the off road.

00TL-P3.2

True, it did take considerably longer compared to the '87 2" lifted Suburban we used to take down there (and has now been converted to a ranch-only live as a 'Suburbalanche'), as it's pretty much an oilfield lease road.

Costco

I have no idea. I'm useless, as usual.

Yumcha

When Trump builds his wall, I hope you get thrown over to the other side.